I'd like to see the return of iTunes Extras and LPs. That might be more software than anything else though. It'd also be cool if it could support Audiophile digital files (24 bit/96 khz) but Im pretty happy with everything else. iCloud, MLB, YouTube... It's all awesome.
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What would it take for you to upgrade from ATV2 to ATV3?
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It seems to me appletv already has apps-
YouTube
Netflix
WSJ
iTunes Live
vimeo
etc. etc. etc.
IMO an app store plus ability to customise which ones are shown is what we really need at this time.
YouTube
Netflix
WSJ
iTunes Live
vimeo
etc. etc. etc.
IMO an app store plus ability to customise which ones are shown is what we really need at this time.
- 1080p
- Bluetooth 4.0 remote control capability (in addition to the IR remote?) so I can hide the atv
- Siri?
- reverese AirPlay (atv->iPad / iPhone / Mac)?
- Bluetooth 4.0 remote control capability (in addition to the IR remote?) so I can hide the atv
- Siri?
- reverese AirPlay (atv->iPad / iPhone / Mac)?
But would streaming 1080p be ideal? Im thinking if they go 1080p they have to have a means for getting 1080p content on it so my guess is this:
AppleTV3 = 1080p + Thunderbolt + 3D Support + Siri. Connect to TB drive OR Time Capsule
Time Capsule Server = iTunes Server + Thunderbolt so aTV3 can do 1080p streams locally
iTunes = 1080p availability + 3D Movies + Small fee for previously purchased items
Obviously theres a lot of boneheaded ideas in here (3D? Thunderbolt? Siri Remote?) but IF they do this then its all profit for Apple and it helps give TB more mainstream credibility. Plus, regardless of 3D hate, the general public eats it up so they can charge a premium for the 3D versions.
I would want 1080p and EyeTV-like functions. I want to be able to hook cable/antenna directly to it, then have the ability to search for shows and record them to a separate HDD (either via WiFi or directly connected).
I know this is a pipe dream though. Apple doesn't want us recording our own shows. They want us to rent/buy them from iTunes.
Anyways, I never really use my ATV2. It was something I bought because Apple was selling it and it was cheap. I'll likely skip the next ATV though.
I know this is a pipe dream though. Apple doesn't want us recording our own shows. They want us to rent/buy them from iTunes.
Anyways, I never really use my ATV2. It was something I bought because Apple was selling it and it was cheap. I'll likely skip the next ATV though.
Not necessarily. IF Apple gets into the Television business then every TV they sell will be hooked up to a Dish, Cox, TiVo, Comcast DVR. As much as Apple doesnt want us to record shows, they would be more upset at the idea of tainting their "Apple Experience" with a horrible 3rd party DVR box so they would have to give in and provide their own DVR.
Anyway, it seems the direction Apple is going will be that their TV's would be cable-free. They would strike deals with TV networks and we'd pay subscriptions a la carte. For some its a huge benefit because I only need a few channels so i could cut my cable bill pretty low.
While I would have loved a DVR feature on the aTV at one time, it just isn't going to happen now. Virtually all the stand-alone DVR's have now been pulled from the market, and soon they will probably only work with over-the-air TV, as suppliers like Comcast start to block the signal from going through anything but an HDMI cable and to anything but a TV or receiver.
If you convert your movies to mp4 you can play them just fine.
I'm just saying, because it's simply not true. As long as iTunes is able to import your movie, you can also play it on your AppleTV.
Apple wants you to buy Apple hardware. They couldn't care less what you do with it, as long as you enjoy it. The iTunes Store has not traditionally been a big profit center:
http://allthingsd.com/20100225/apple-billions-of-songs-billions-of-apps-not-much-profit/
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HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Not (completely) true. iTunes can import and play video that can't be played on
TV. I've got all kinds of .m4v, .mp4 video that iTunes stores (and plays) but TV can't. I hope the new one has the horses to play it though.Not (completely) true. iTunes can import and play video that can't be played on
BUT...you can encode any video to play on ATV
I understand what your saying, and agree that Apple makes the majority of their money from hardware, but you are wrong about them not caring what you do with their hardware. Yes, Apple loves to sell their toys, but they also care just as much on what you do with them. Just look at the iPhone. Its one of the most locked-down devices available on the market. Look at the ATV2, since that is what we are talking about. You want to watch a movie on it? Using the device only, this can only be done via buying it via itunes. You want to stream any other movie throught it? The movie must be streamed through iTunes - a process that leads one to question whether it's easier to just purchase the movie right from iTunes. In fact, the ATV2 has little use outside of being an iTunes consumption box.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
That's not what he said though. He said: "As long as iTunes is able to import your movie, you can also play it on your AppleTV." to which I said that that was not completely true. iTunes can handle higher specs than what an
TV can play.Let's look at it. The Apple TV lets me play any MP3/AAC/ALAC/MP4/etc content regardless of where I acquired it. That's not very locked down to me. Apple could easily have made it so that it could only play content from the iTunes Store. They didn't.
I'd say your problem with iTunes (a free program) being the source of the streaming is a personal one. If it is that big a deal to you there exists free software that will send content to the Apple TV without using iTunes.
The fact that EyeTV can record live television and format it for the Apple TV and stick it directly into iTunes for you should make you very happy.
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Wait, if I own an ATV2 and a TV, I can play mp3s? How do I do that? In fact, I actually own a NAS attached onto my network. Geez, I must have thousands of mp3s stored on there! How do I go about playing them on my ATV2? You must mean there is some way to load Plex on my ATV2, right?
And why are we even talking about an ATV playing friggin mp3s when it's main purpose is to play video?
It would need 1080p support and apps.
Currently my TV is only 720p (old, upgrading shortly), but I reckon there's a HUGE market there for apple to push out an ATV3 with more storage, iPhone 4-s or ipad3 innards, and the ability to download/install games or other apps.
Tether iPhone or iPod touch as a controller, and Apple has a fairly cheap home entertainment console with a massive audio/video library, massive amount of apps, etc.
Sure, it won't compete in the same space as the ps3/xbox, but the success of the iPhone gaming market would suggest that most people are more than happy to play simpler, less time consuming games.
Currently my TV is only 720p (old, upgrading shortly), but I reckon there's a HUGE market there for apple to push out an ATV3 with more storage, iPhone 4-s or ipad3 innards, and the ability to download/install games or other apps.
Tether iPhone or iPod touch as a controller, and Apple has a fairly cheap home entertainment console with a massive audio/video library, massive amount of apps, etc.
Sure, it won't compete in the same space as the ps3/xbox, but the success of the iPhone gaming market would suggest that most people are more than happy to play simpler, less time consuming games.
Play the fool if it amuses you.
Sure, if you had spent half the money you did on your NAS box and instead bought a used Apple Mac mini as your server, all those MP3s would play fine on your Apple TV.
It's *your* choice. You can use Apple products or not use Apple products. But don't call Apple "locked up" simply because Apple doesn't rearrange their architecture to suit you. Apple devices play compatible media (music/movies/books/etc) regardless of where it came from - iTunes Store or not. That's what I call open.
I think you brought it up. Why did you?
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They need to FIX THE FRAMERATE. Allow the ATV3 to reset the framerate with the TV. All my BR rips are at 24fps the way they were originally made... the ATV is killing itself trying to do an inverse pulldown to go 30fps for added data I don't even want it to generate! For that matter the iTMS movies should be at their correct 24fps too, and are not. Even a consumer-grade BR player for $50 at Walmart is capable of setting a correct framerate. There is no excuse for Apple to continue to do this wrong.
Needs
- Native 1080p output (finally take advantage of my custom anamorphic 720p encodes)
Likes
- Updated interface
- iTunes Extras/LP support (would motivate me to restart creating custom packages for all of the LOTR extra content)
- Apps (select developers/content only)
- Additional streaming services (espn3 would be a good start)
- Native 1080p output (finally take advantage of my custom anamorphic 720p encodes)
Likes
- Updated interface
- iTunes Extras/LP support (would motivate me to restart creating custom packages for all of the LOTR extra content)
- Apps (select developers/content only)
- Additional streaming services (espn3 would be a good start)