another complainer about the CEO of the most successful company. so funny, if only Apple was a failing somehow, hmm failing at what? Being the first to successfully launch its own silicon>. no, not that
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What would the M3 need to make you upgrade from an M1?
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The fact that it could power a laptop under 2 pounds (regardless of whether it's 12", 12.5" or 13") which would be as quiet and efficient as the M1 air, have a 32GB RAM option and, while we are at it, mini-led screen and optional 5G.
If the GPU could comfortably run AAA games at 60fps without a fan I’d be pretty tempted. Not gonna happen though.
When the hardware ray tracing arrives I will consider it, but honestly my M1 iMac will do fine for my modest needs for quite a few years.
This is a really intelligent breakdown of what we need to upgrade.
Gaming is necessary for the eco system. PC gamers are completely lost when it comes to why we want games so badly. Games mean that the ecosystem is growing and hardware is being designed to compete. Plus we have premium machines and would ALSO like to game on it instead of buying another platform.
Upgrade wishlist IMO:
- I want a black MBP
- Redesigned chassis
- an M-series GPU that exceeds the M1 Ultra’s perf
- Solid state battery
- OLED screen
- HDMI 2.1 (just arrived)
- Much better multi-display support
I didn't realize my MacBook Air wasn't a "real computer"... I'm really not sure how it's a phone though. I tried carrying it around in my pocket but I keep missing calls 🤣
Nothing expected but a better price to compete with PCs
M3 MacBook Air $899
M1 MacBook SE $699
M3Pro 14in MacBook Pro $1399
M3Max 14in MacBook Pro $1799
M3 Mac mini $599
M3 Pro Mac mini $999
M3 Max Mac Studio $1499
M3 Ultra Mac Studio $1999
Remember: don’t use Oled, it’s terrible for my eyes
M3 MacBook Air $899
M1 MacBook SE $699
M3Pro 14in MacBook Pro $1399
M3Max 14in MacBook Pro $1799
M3 Mac mini $599
M3 Pro Mac mini $999
M3 Max Mac Studio $1499
M3 Ultra Mac Studio $1999
Remember: don’t use Oled, it’s terrible for my eyes
The only reason I would upgrade is if the made my M1 Air artificially slower when M3 launches, which they would neve- uh, never do. Surely.
The only thing that I can think of is a need for more RAM. I have a base Studio MAX and an M1 Pro MacBook Pro 32/1. If I needed 64 GB of RAM, I would consider upgrading. I don't need more CPU or GPU. 1 TB is fine for storage on my MacBook Pro and I have lots of external storage on the Studio.
An 18 inch display could get me interested.
I got these systems so that they would last for at least 5 years, and, barring needing to run programs that require more, I don't foresee a need.
An 18 inch display could get me interested.
I got these systems so that they would last for at least 5 years, and, barring needing to run programs that require more, I don't foresee a need.
GPU, GPU, GPU
Apple has proven it can compete, and often surpass intel and AMD in the CPU department. However, Nvidia is the king in the GPU market and Apple really needs to push harder on this front. Ray tracing also needs to come to the Mac too.
Apple needs GPU options that are on par with 4070, 4080, 4090 for them to truly wipe the floor.
Apple has proven it can compete, and often surpass intel and AMD in the CPU department. However, Nvidia is the king in the GPU market and Apple really needs to push harder on this front. Ray tracing also needs to come to the Mac too.
Apple needs GPU options that are on par with 4070, 4080, 4090 for them to truly wipe the floor.
Nothing. M1 if fine, silent and cold. M3 is not going to beat PC or console hardware in terms of gaming anyway, and for day to day computing or work M1 is fine.
Hmmm .. “Real computers“ come in a variety of form factors. Modern phones (and arguably iPhones) are the most successful *personal computers* in history and Macs have become the defacto reference for notebook and desktop computers (just look at the shameless copying). This is largely due to the global production and logistics system pioneered and perfected by none other than *Tim Cook.* Tim Cook deserves to be respected and acknowledged for his quiet, competent leadership.
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The M1 Max is an extremely capable SOC but it’s not currently available for Apple’s thinner and lighter laptops — so a M3 with 10 core CPU/32 core GPU and 32 GB RAM in a light and thin 15” MacBook or Air would compel me to switch from my 16” M1 Max MacBook Pro in a heartbeat.
Top 3:
1. GPU Raytracing. I do a lot of CG work and rendering speed is one area where Apple Silicon is trailing the competition. I'm not expecting Apple to demolish Nvidia on benchmarks but at the very least they need to offer comparable performance per cost.
2. Faster video encoding (M1 Max is already very good but faster is always better).
3. More effective "Low Power" and "High Power" modes. It would be nice to see an actual clock speed boost in high power mode to speed up computational task and rendering. In low power mode, it would be nice to have the ability to disable a certain amount of cores (maybe half) to extend battery.
Other than that, my M1 Max is still going strong and able to handle whatever I throw at it. If GPU raytracing is not included, that would actually be reason enough to keep my M1 Max another year or perhaps even explore other options... Apple needs to pick up the slack on the GPU side.
1. GPU Raytracing. I do a lot of CG work and rendering speed is one area where Apple Silicon is trailing the competition. I'm not expecting Apple to demolish Nvidia on benchmarks but at the very least they need to offer comparable performance per cost.
2. Faster video encoding (M1 Max is already very good but faster is always better).
3. More effective "Low Power" and "High Power" modes. It would be nice to see an actual clock speed boost in high power mode to speed up computational task and rendering. In low power mode, it would be nice to have the ability to disable a certain amount of cores (maybe half) to extend battery.
Other than that, my M1 Max is still going strong and able to handle whatever I throw at it. If GPU raytracing is not included, that would actually be reason enough to keep my M1 Max another year or perhaps even explore other options... Apple needs to pick up the slack on the GPU side.
How to improve the M1 MacBook Pro
- Under-screen webcam (eliminating the notch)
- USB-A (it's actually not going away anytime soon, and it's the same height as the HDMI port it has today)
- Deeper keyboard, up to 1.2-1.5 mm in key travel (up from 1.0 mm today)
I don't yet have an M1 device other than my M1 iPad Air.
But I am ready to make the jump to an M series iMac. What I'd like to see in the forthcoming M3 iMac is an option for 24 or 32GB RAM. The current 16GB would probably work for me, but I'd feel more confident with more RAM available. Given the M2 does have a 24GB option then I think's it's likely we'll see at least that with the M3.
A minor thing I'd like to see is the Apple logo put back on the iMac's chin, but it's certainly not a deal breaker.
But I am ready to make the jump to an M series iMac. What I'd like to see in the forthcoming M3 iMac is an option for 24 or 32GB RAM. The current 16GB would probably work for me, but I'd feel more confident with more RAM available. Given the M2 does have a 24GB option then I think's it's likely we'll see at least that with the M3.
A minor thing I'd like to see is the Apple logo put back on the iMac's chin, but it's certainly not a deal breaker.
Tim Cook made Apple the world's fourth largest and hella profitable computer vendor without accepting the ubiquitous Win OS the other top vendors all buy from MS. Plus millions of users do not want Win or MS, so thank Tim Cook for the last ten+ years making Apple the powerhouse it is today.