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DaveFromCampbelltown

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Pretty sure my daughter has been watching too much Bluey. I'm noticing that she's now saying certain words with an Australian accent.

Or depending on your perspective, she's got an American accent with the exception of a few words. ;)

This has been noted before on other sites. Especially with the introduction of Australian vocabulary in young, impressionable minds.
It is our revenge on you for the Americanisation of the English language, especially as it is spoken in 'Stralya.

Before that it was Neighbours and especially Summer Bay.
I was in a train sitting opposite a couple of young, female American tourists. They were speaking with an American accent, but with a Sydney Northern Beaches cadence and vocabulary.

BTW, you have to watch the 'Cricket' episode...
 
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This has been noted before on other sites. Especially with the introduction of Australian vocabulary in young, impressionable minds.
It is our revenge on you for the Americanisation of the English language, especially as it is spoken in 'Stralya.

Before that it was Neighbours and especially Summer Bay.
I was in a train sitting opposite a couple of young, female American tourists. They were speaking with an American accent, but with a Sydney Northern Beaches cadence and vocabulary.

BTW, you have to watch the 'Cricket' episode...
Seriously Australians and Americans debating weaponising English.

You both speak it and spell it incorrectly!
😜
 

yaxomoxay

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No, in the Catholic calendar, Lent follows Ash Wednesday, for 40 days, and comes to an end on Easter Sunday.
Technically Lent ends on Holy Thursday.
While Lent occurs at the same time each year, - in spring - the exact dates on which Lent falls vary (because the date on which Easter falls also varies).
Exactly.
 
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Technically Lent ends on Holy Thursday.

Exactly.
Ah.

I had always assumed that the tradition of fasting (and abstinence) of Good Friday meant that this was also a part of Lent.

Holy Saturday, I always assumed was a sort of precursor to the celebration of the feast of Easter, on Easter Sunday, a day - and a feast, and a holiday - I have always liked and enjoyed.
 

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When you're 64 with a heart condition and recent breathing troubles, it's a bit more difficult. However, I've walked 15 miles to the next city when I didn't have bus fare.
Understood - many younger people without any issues would struggle to do what you're managing - it's impressive. 👍
 

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Understood - many younger people without any issues would struggle to do what you're managing - it's impressive. 👍
They'd probably whine about it and call all of their friends for rides.

I just do what I must to survive. The Japanese feeling of not wanting to bother anyone does accentuate my stubbornness.

Speaking of which, I've stayed away a couple of days because of the 24th February bits about Steve Jobs, pancreatic cancer, and death. My mum's birthday was the 26th. Her pancreatic cancer lasted seven months, and her death was within weeks of Steve Jobs' death, and her brother's.

I've been playing games to distract but I'm not sure it's helping.
 

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They'd probably whine about it and call all of their friends for rides.

I just do what I must to survive. The Japanese feeling of not wanting to bother anyone does accentuate my stubbornness.

Speaking of which, I've stayed away a couple of days because of the 24th February bits about Steve Jobs, pancreatic cancer, and death. My mum's birthday was the 26th. Her pancreatic cancer lasted seven months, and her death was within weeks of Steve Jobs' death, and her brother's.

I've been playing games to distract but I'm not sure it's helping.
I hear you, and empathise with you.

My mum died at the end of 2018, - dementia claimed her - and I still miss her, and, above all, still miss my bright, funny, fiercely intelligent, intellectual-partner-in-crime mother from the time before dementia claimed her.
 

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I hear you, and empathise with you.

My mum died at the end of 2018, - dementia claimed her - and I still miss her, and, above all, still miss my bright, funny, fiercely intelligent, intellectual-partner-in-crime mother from the time before dementia claimed her.
Sorry to hear that. My dad started Alzheimer's Disease about 30 years before he died, after three heart attacks within 18 hours.

Your mum must have been quite young and vital. I suspect most mothers have to do more because their husbands don't.

My dad never really tried. His father seemed to develop into Alzheimer's after building a new room onto his house and falling off while putting a roof on it. At 98 years old, he still thought that he was 92, and my dad couldn't (didn't try to) understand. "Why does he keep asking me the same thing again and again?" he would ask me.

We can't change the past, but if we share our stories with people at the beginning of such circumstances, we can save them effort and heartache.
 
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My Dad suffered from Parkinson's and dementia at the end of his life and it was really hard on us seeing this intelligent and educated man fade, especially for our Mom. Fortunately he had good care for his last months.
I'm sad to hear about that. I hope that future generations will have better doctors and better diagnostic equipment.
 
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Sorry to hear that. My dad started Alzheimer's Disease about 30 years before he died, after three heart attacks within 18 hours.
Aaaah.

That must have been very tough.
Your mum must have been quite young and vital. I suspect most mothers have to do more because their husbands don't.
Actually, she died at the age of 88, (in December 2018), and had suffered from dementia for the best part of a decade prior to that.

In truth, I believe that she never fully recovered from my dad's death in 2005 (cancer and strokes, for him), and they both had cardiac stuff, as well, stents and a by-pass for him, stents and a pace-maker for her - they had been married for a month under 45 years when he died.

I date her decline from around then, but she had been vital, and loved to laugh, and loved books, theatre, travel, politics, history, sports (she had been an excellent sportswoman in her youth); she was terrific company, and - as adults - we were great friends.

Fortunately, her character (which was sweet and funny) remained intact, right to the end, (we cared for her at home) as her dementia - which robbed her of her (always active, fiercely intelligent) mind and memories - progressed.
My dad never really tried. His father seemed to develop into Alzheimer's after building a new room onto his house and falling off while putting a roof on it. At 98 years old, he still thought that he was 92, and my dad couldn't (didn't try to) understand. "Why does he keep asking me the same thing again and again?" he would ask me.
That sounds challenging, to put it mildly.
We can't change the past, but if we share our stories with people at the beginning of such circumstances, we can save them effort and heartache.
This is true.
 

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My Dad suffered from Parkinson's and dementia at the end of his life and it was really hard on us seeing this intelligent and educated man fade, especially for our Mom.
That can be very hard, - above all, for close family - especially when the person was so mentally active and engaged, and related to others via intellectual interests.
Fortunately he had good care for his last months.
That is much more of a consolation than people realise.
 

yaxomoxay

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Ah.

I had always assumed that the tradition of fasting (and abstinence) of Good Friday meant that this was also a part of Lent.

Holy Saturday, I always assumed was a sort of precursor to the celebration of the feast of Easter, on Easter Sunday, a day - and a feast, and a holiday - I have always liked and enjoyed.
Yeah for all practical intents and purposes it’s usually seen as part of lent. Liturgically, they are their own thing, called the Triduum (three days), which include Holy Thursday (celebration of the Washing of the Feet and Last Supper), Good Friday (celebration of the crucifixion, includes the prostration and is the only day of the year in which Mass is not celebrated), and Holy Saturday (which is basically a vigil).

By the way, whoever invented the calculation of Easter must have been on mushrooms.
 

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Yeah for all practical intents and purposes it’s usually seen as part of lent. Liturgically, they are their own thing, called the Triduum (three days), which include Holy Thursday (celebration of the Washing of the Feet and Last Supper), Good Friday (celebration of the crucifixion, includes the prostration and is the only day of the year in which Mass is not celebrated), and Holy Saturday (which is basically a vigil).

By the way, whoever invented the calculation of Easter must have been on mushrooms.
Wasn't there a massive bust up over the calculation of Easter where the Anglo Saxon Northumbrians wondered what was the point of adopting this new religion if no-one could even agree when easter was? One person in the royal household could be following the Irish church and the other the Roman meaning the cooks didn't have clue who was fasting or feasting,... Absolute chaos which probably drove the staff to the woods to find mushrooms to calm down with - at least you knew where things were with Woden and the gang.

I think it was all hammered out at the synod of Whitby by Hild and we (the early English) pretty much became Roman Catholic as opposed to Irish christian (well, for a while anyway).
 

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Yeah for all practical intents and purposes it’s usually seen as part of lent. Liturgically, they are their own thing, called the Triduum (three days), which include Holy Thursday (celebration of the Washing of the Feet and Last Supper), Good Friday (celebration of the crucifixion, includes the prostration and is the only day of the year in which Mass is not celebrated), and Holy Saturday (which is basically a vigil).

By the way, whoever invented the calculation of Easter must have been on mushrooms.
Yes sure seems like it. Also the Orthodox Church calculations, based on the Julian calendar throws things off even more. Easter is usually a week later, sometimes (like this year) over a month later and sometimes the same day. Oh and Christmas is celebrated well always December 25 but in some Orthodox countries (Russia for example) on January 7th which is December 25 following the Julian calendar, and in others (like Greece and Romania) following the Gregorian calendar like the rest of the Christian world.
 
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Yeah for all practical intents and purposes it’s usually seen as part of lent. Liturgically, they are their own thing, called the Triduum (three days), which include Holy Thursday (celebration of the Washing of the Feet and Last Supper),
That is interesting.

However, many people - even those with some vague familiarity with Catholic ritual, seem to see those days as part of Lent, but the very end of Lent, with their own specific traditions and customs.
Good Friday (celebration of the crucifixion, includes the prostration and is the only day of the year in which Mass is not celebrated),
Yes, that particular detail I do recall.

And thus, no celebration of the Sacrament of the Eucharist, if memory serves.
and Holy Saturday (which is basically a vigil).
An anticipatory vigil...
By the way, whoever invented the calculation of Easter must have been on mushrooms.
I'm laughing, reading this.
 

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Yes sure seems like it. Also the Orthodox Church calculations, based on the Julian calendar throws things off even more. Easter is usually a week later, sometimes (like this year) over a month later and sometimes the same day. Oh and Christmas is celebrated well always December 25 but in some Orthodox countries (Russia for example) on January 7th which is December 25 following the Julian calendar, and in others (like Greece and Romania) following the Gregorian calendar like the rest of the Christian world.
Yes, that is fascinating, as well.

I spent two years in Georgia (Caucasus Georgia) with the EU, and there, Christmas was a festival that went on for the best part of a month, as the Georgians (who are Orthodox Christians) cheerfully acknowledged the Western Christmas, followed by their celebration of the Orthodox one, right up to the Orthodox Feast of the Epiphany, when it all came to an end.
 
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