What’s on your mind?

[Apple fanboy]

Glad it’s Friday! Had an early night last night but still awoke tired.
I’ll be glad when it’s light in the mornings again.
Had a frost yesterday and looks like another one today.
Looks like Spring has been postponed!

 

[Septembersrain]

Took my first shower today. It felt good but required a little maneuvering. I'm still having problems with bodily functions. My vision is also oddly blurry.

I also forgot about the anti nausea patch behind my ear. Removed it a few hours ago. I don't assume it did any harm to me staying on that long.

I'm avoiding my pain meds because they don't really give relief but they do interfere with a certain bodily function.

I feel so tired, like I could sleep a year. However, I'm in just enough pain that my body is warring with my mind.

I hope everyone else here is doing well.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

I started reading Jony Ive's biography. So far, it's good I read in the bath; it is so dry. At first, I couldn't help but read his quotes in his distinctive voice, but even that wore off. I don't know how much longer I'll hold out. Wish me luck.

Some people may do interesting things, and lead what must seem to be interesting lives, but can still be really boring or terribly uninteresting people (a point Derek Robinson made when writing about Vulcan pilots).
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Took my first shower today. It felt good but required a little maneuvering. I'm still having problems with bodily functions. My vision is also oddly blurry.

I also forgot about the anti nausea patch behind my ear. Removed it a few hours ago. I don't assume it did any harm to me staying on that long.

I'm avoiding my pain meds because they don't really give relief but they do interfere with a certain bodily function.

I feel so tired, like I could sleep a year. However, I'm in just enough pain that my body is warring with my mind.

I hope everyone else here is doing well.

I'd imagine that despite the discomfort, and the challenges of manoeuvring, the sheer physical pleasure of the shower probably did you a lot of good.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Took my first shower today. It felt good but required a little maneuvering. I'm still having problems with bodily functions. My vision is also oddly blurry.

I also forgot about the anti nausea patch behind my ear. Removed it a few hours ago. I don't assume it did any harm to me staying on that long.

I'm avoiding my pain meds because they don't really give relief but they do interfere with a certain bodily function.

I feel so tired, like I could sleep a year. However, I'm in just enough pain that my body is warring with my mind.

I hope everyone else here is doing well.

Probably better than you! Hope your symptoms subside soon.

 

[Gutwrench]

AP News is

Took my first shower today. It felt good but required a little maneuvering. I'm still having problems with bodily functions. My vision is also oddly blurry.

I also forgot about the anti nausea patch behind my ear. Removed it a few hours ago. I don't assume it did any harm to me staying on that long.

I'm avoiding my pain meds because they don't really give relief but they do interfere with a certain bodily function.

I feel so tired, like I could sleep a year. However, I'm in just enough pain that my body is warring with my mind.

I hope everyone else here is doing well.

You’re the best judge of pain management but staying ahead of the pain for the first 24-48 hours is pretty important. I hope you’re comfortable.

Oh, and there’s OTC medicines to assist with the side effects. Staying ahead of that is helpful too.

Best wishes.

PS - I operate a free and natural philanthropic narcotic disposal program if you don’t use them all.

 

[Healer Flame]

I thought there might be some value in a general topic-less thread to share random thoughts, ideas, and personal news that aren’t otherwise thread-worthy.

So, within compliance of applicable federal laws, regulations, and Community Discussion rules: what’s on your mind?
[doublepost=1536426505][/doublepost]Yesterday I attended a Naturalization Ceremony for forty-one American citizens.

In 1776 the population of America was roughly 2,500,000.
Today its 325,700,000 and 41.

This is the second ceremony I’ve attended. Both were moving. I was a bit disappointed with yesterday’s speakers but it was a pleasure being in attendance to honor these new citizens.

Been thinking about the expanding universe and where does it end. Also why are we here? That's all falks.

 

[LizKat]

On my mind today, something that popped up in my Twitter feed from the US Fish and Wildlife Service, and it's a documented instance of cooperative nesting by bald eagles, a behavior practically unheard of in the world of raptors: 2 papas and a mama taking care of their three eaglets this season.

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-rare-bald-eagle-trio-two-dads-and-mom-captivates-webcam-fans

Excerpt:

"In a tall tree situated on the Mississippi River in Fulton, Illinois, three eagles, a female and two males, are looking after three downy eaglets—keeping them warm, feeding them freshly caught catfish, and herding them away from the edge of the nest. The three parents take turns hunting and nest-sitting, often calling to one another for assistance.

Bald Eagles aren't a rare sight at Upper Mississippi River National Wildlife Refuge, but three of them tending to the same nest is, especially when the trio includes two males, which are typically territorial. What’s even more remarkable is that the males stayed together and courted a new female after their first mate perished."
​

Fascinating. Lucky for the three little eaglets too, because it's somewhat less common for there to be three viable eggs in a season's clutch to begin with. Takes something of the edge off my disappointment that both eaglets at the Berry College site in Georgia this year perished, despite attentive care from the parent eagles who have otherwise had spectacular success over the past ten years. Prolonged cold and rain were thought to have delayed this year's hatches at the Berry site, and perhaps precipitated mold or other unfavorable conditions in the nesting materials.

 

[Apple fanboy]

On my mind today, something that popped up in my Twitter feed from the US Fish and Wildlife Service, and it's a documented instance of cooperative nesting by bald eagles, a behavior practically unheard of in the world of raptors: 2 papas and a mama taking care of their three eaglets this season.

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-rare-bald-eagle-trio-two-dads-and-mom-captivates-webcam-fans

Excerpt:

"In a tall tree situated on the Mississippi River in Fulton, Illinois, three eagles, a female and two males, are looking after three downy eaglets—keeping them warm, feeding them freshly caught catfish, and herding them away from the edge of the nest. The three parents take turns hunting and nest-sitting, often calling to one another for assistance.

Bald Eagles aren't a rare sight at Upper Mississippi River National Wildlife Refuge, but three of them tending to the same nest is, especially when the trio includes two males, which are typically territorial. What’s even more remarkable is that the males stayed together and courted a new female after their first mate perished."
​

Fascinating. Lucky for the three little eaglets too, because it's somewhat less common for there to be three viable eggs in a season's clutch to begin with. Takes something of the edge off my disappointment that both eaglets at the Berry College site in Georgia this year perished, despite attentive care from the parent eagles who have otherwise had spectacular success over the past ten years. Prolonged cold and rain were thought to have delayed this year's hatches at the Berry site, and perhaps precipitated mold or other unfavorable conditions in the nesting materials.

Fascinating. Our birds are all busy collecting nesting materials.
We have blue tits in our nesting box for the first time this year, so we are hoping to see babies.
Certainly gives me something to shoot with my Nikon set up.

 

[Gutwrench]

On my mind today, something that popped up in my Twitter feed from the US Fish and Wildlife Service, and it's a documented instance of cooperative nesting by bald eagles, a behavior practically unheard of in the world of raptors: 2 papas and a mama taking care of their three eaglets this season.

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-rare-bald-eagle-trio-two-dads-and-mom-captivates-webcam-fans

Excerpt:

"In a tall tree situated on the Mississippi River in Fulton, Illinois, three eagles, a female and two males, are looking after three downy eaglets—keeping them warm, feeding them freshly caught catfish, and herding them away from the edge of the nest. The three parents take turns hunting and nest-sitting, often calling to one another for assistance.

Bald Eagles aren't a rare sight at Upper Mississippi River National Wildlife Refuge, but three of them tending to the same nest is, especially when the trio includes two males, which are typically territorial. What’s even more remarkable is that the males stayed together and courted a new female after their first mate perished."
​

Fascinating. Lucky for the three little eaglets too, because it's somewhat less common for there to be three viable eggs in a season's clutch to begin with. Takes something of the edge off my disappointment that both eaglets at the Berry College site in Georgia this year perished, despite attentive care from the parent eagles who have otherwise had spectacular success over the past ten years. Prolonged cold and rain were thought to have delayed this year's hatches at the Berry site, and perhaps precipitated mold or other unfavorable conditions in the nesting materials.

A raptor kibbutz?

 

[LizKat]

A raptor kibbutz?

LOL! Probably could take some kinda village to raise 3 rambunctious offspring that greet the world together and confound the lives of their parents for awhile.

Around the time I became aunt to triplets, I remember my bro saying something along lines of "if they're going to hand these things out three at a time they should issue an extra parent or two with the package." The kids' older brother, 4 at the time, was all excited at first about having a couple new sisters and a brother too, but even before they came home from the hospital nursery where he first saw them, he asked his dad "... but do we have to keep them all?" The bro said to me that he wouldn't have put it quite that way, but it did cross his mind that the living room was about to become a giant kid-safe playpen for the next couple of years... so what had seemed a spacious house might need an addition to offer a respite space for whoever really needed one for a few hours.​

I suppose those exact issues don't occur in the case of eagles parenting triplets, but a one-to-one ratio of parents to a trio of eaglets sounds like a great idea. There's a really steep climb in rate of food consumption by three hatchlings: the eaglets reach the size of their parents in only 9 weeks. To hunt prey for themselves and three unfledged offspring is sometimes too much for two eagles to manage. It can be part of why sometimes an over-adventurous eaglet falls from the nest... if one eagle has not returned yet and the other becomes desperate for something to feed the babies or nourish itself, the nest may briefly be unattended.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

On my mind today, something that popped up in my Twitter feed from the US Fish and Wildlife Service, and it's a documented instance of cooperative nesting by bald eagles, a behavior practically unheard of in the world of raptors: 2 papas and a mama taking care of their three eaglets this season.

https://www.audubon.org/news/a-rare-bald-eagle-trio-two-dads-and-mom-captivates-webcam-fans

Excerpt:

"In a tall tree situated on the Mississippi River in Fulton, Illinois, three eagles, a female and two males, are looking after three downy eaglets—keeping them warm, feeding them freshly caught catfish, and herding them away from the edge of the nest. The three parents take turns hunting and nest-sitting, often calling to one another for assistance.

Bald Eagles aren't a rare sight at Upper Mississippi River National Wildlife Refuge, but three of them tending to the same nest is, especially when the trio includes two males, which are typically territorial. What’s even more remarkable is that the males stayed together and courted a new female after their first mate perished."
​

Fascinating. Lucky for the three little eaglets too, because it's somewhat less common for there to be three viable eggs in a season's clutch to begin with. Takes something of the edge off my disappointment that both eaglets at the Berry College site in Georgia this year perished, despite attentive care from the parent eagles who have otherwise had spectacular success over the past ten years. Prolonged cold and rain were thought to have delayed this year's hatches at the Berry site, and perhaps precipitated mold or other unfavorable conditions in the nesting materials.

That is extraordinary.

As I understand it, female raptors tend to be larger and more powerful than the males - are their territories not commensurate with that, or do they typically have less extensive territories?

And I also thought that most raptors - especially eagles - formed very strong pair bonds.

This is an extraordinary tale; absolutely fascinating.

 

[LizKat]

That is extraordinary.

As I understand it, female raptors tend to be larger and more powerful than the males - are their territories not commensurate with that, or do they typically have less extensive territories?

And I also thought that most raptors - especially eagles - formed very strong pair bonds.

This is an extraordinary tale; absolutely fascinating.

Bald eagles do mate for life but will pair up anew if the mate dies or is killed. Both sexes are ferocious defenders of their nest; the males may be more territorial about the general area of the site the pair choose to build a nest in.

Not sure why this pair of males have tolerated each other. I suppose it's possible they are siblings or perhaps one just showed enough deference to the other to be tolerated at a time it came in handy, perhaps having mated with the female on the sly sometime, and then ending up helping fight off other raptors attacking the nest. The original female disappeared after one such fight and has been presumed dead or at least missing. Wildlife refuge managers looked for her but found no sign of feathers or a carcass.

In any case it was in 2016 that the researchers were first able to capture enough video footage to document that both males mated with the original female and all three took care of the fledglings.

The Upper Mississippi River National Wildlife and Fish Refuge is assisted by SUMMR (Stewards of the Upper Mississippi River Refuge) and they are who run the refuge's webcams.

http://stewardsumrr.org/webcams/bald-eagle-nest-cam-live/​

The writeup on SUMMR's webcam site --the cam doesn't autoplay, so just scroll down to the Past History section-- about the full history of what is now an apparently enduring threesome was fairly hilarious in noting that at first the original male of the trio "didn't seem to know what to do" in his first known season of having mated with the original female, i.e. had no apparent sense he had acquired a species-preserving responsibility to help manage the consequences of mating behavior. Those hatchlings did not survive with only the female paying enough attention. He apparently got better at this after awhile, even if it took another male to help him learn how to man up for his share of parental duties.

​

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Bald eagles do mate for life but will pair up anew if the mate dies or is killed. Both sexes are ferocious defenders of their nest; the males may be more territorial about the general area of the site the pair choose to build a nest in.

Not sure why this pair of males have tolerated each other. I suppose it's possible they are siblings or perhaps one just showed enough deference to the other to be tolerated at a time it came in handy, perhaps having mated with the female on the sly sometime, and then ending up helping fight off other raptors attacking the nest. The original female disappeared after one such fight and has been presumed dead or at least missing. Wildlife refuge managers looked for her but found no sign of feathers or a carcass.

In any case it was in 2016 that the researchers were first able to capture enough video footage to document that both males mated with the original female and all three took care of the fledglings.

The Upper Mississippi River National Wildlife and Fish Refuge is assisted by SUMMR (Stewards of the Upper Mississippi River Refuge) and they are who run the refuge's webcams.

http://stewardsumrr.org/webcams/bald-eagle-nest-cam-live/​

The writeup on SUMMR's webcam site --the cam doesn't autoplay, so just scroll down to the Past History section-- about the full history of what is now an apparently enduring threesome was fairly hilarious in noting that at first the original male of the trio "didn't seem to know what to do" in his first known season of having mated with the original female, i.e. had no apparent sense he had acquired a species-preserving responsibility to help manage the consequences of mating behavior. Those hatchlings did not survive with only the female paying enough attention. He apparently got better at this after awhile, even if it took another male to help him learn how to man up for his share of parental duties.

​

That is brilliant. And fascinating.

But, given the size and strength of female eagles, I would imagine that no mating would have been able to take place without her (enthusiastic) consent; the relationship between the males sounds hilarious.

 

[AngerDanger]

I love it:



Stewart "AngerBonk" Danger loves its box:



Jony Ive's biography is no match for me now! I read another chunk of it after charging the eReader. It starts to pick up about a third of the way in once Ive gets to Apple and Gil Amelio leaves.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

I love it:

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Stewart "AngerBonk" Danger loves its box:

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Jony Ive's biography is no match for me now! I read another chunk of it after charging the eReader. It starts to pick up about a third of the way in once Ive gets to Apple and Gil Amelio leaves.

Does that mean it got better, or more enjoyable/interesting/readable?

I got distracted by the picture of the cat....

 

[AngerDanger]

Does that mean it got better, or more enjoyable/interesting/readable?

Indeed. There's a certain amount of dramatic irony, reading about concepts Ive develops that don't pan out while knowing how similar they sound to devices that will come into fruition.

When designing the iconic Bondi Blue iMac G3, each member the team submitted initial sketches, and they all became enamored with one design that was contoured and almost egg shaped. It wasn't Ive's submission which was reminiscent of a flower with a base like a pot and a floating adjustable display like a flower. I'm guessing that's what the iMac G4 was based on.



It's like Jobs' biography in that the writing is dry as ever, but now interesting events are being written about.

I got distracted by the picture of the cat....

Tell me about it. I have to keep my distance from GrumbleBear or else I get stuck coming up with nonsensical nicknames for him.

 

[LizKat]

Jony Ive's biography is no match for me now! I read another chunk of it after charging the eReader. It starts to pick up about a third of the way in once Ive gets to Apple and Gil Amelio leaves.

OK then... now I know where to set the bookmark for resumption in my audiobook version upstairs on the nightstand. What I need to do next is remember to set the timer for 10 minutes so I don't miss anything before I zonk out. Thanks!

EDIT: re the cat, in the box. What is it with cats and little boxes. I had a cat in my NYC days that used to spend hours trying to get into a box the size of the ones a pound of pretzels or graham crackers were sold in back then. The cat was the size of a couple of those boxes end to end... but no matter, he was sure there was a way to get in there. By time he finished the experiment the box was pretty much disassembled and ready for a quick smoothing over to be fit for recycling.

 

[Septembersrain]

AP News is


You’re the best judge of pain management but staying ahead of the pain for the first 24-48 hours is pretty important. I hope you’re comfortable.

Oh, and there’s OTC medicines to assist with the side effects. Staying ahead of that is helpful too.

Best wishes.

PS - I operate a free and natural philanthropic narcotic disposal program if you don’t use them all.

Getting the hang of it. Even though I feel like a busted can of biscuits, I do think I should get out of the home for a bit tomorrow. Fresh air and light walking.

I really do miss sleeping on my sides but I'm sure I'll be able to soon.

Yeah, it's funny how I've got fibromyalgia but not one doctor would prescribe opioids. Now I'm getting them but using them makes it worse.

That's my luck for you!

At least I did laundry, dusted, bleached all surfaces, swept, and wet Swiffer high traffic areas. I'm beat but the pain isn't worse after all that. So a win.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Getting the hang of it. Even though I feel like a busted can of biscuits, I do think I should get out of the home for a bit tomorrow. Fresh air and light walking.

I really do miss sleeping on my sides but I'm sure I'll be able to soon.

Yeah, it's funny how I've got fibromyalgia but not one doctor would prescribe opioids. Now I'm getting them but using them makes it worse.

That's my luck for you!

At least I did laundry, dusted, bleached all surfaces, swept, and wet Swiffer high traffic areas. I'm beat but the pain isn't worse after all that. So a win.

No no no. Surly in your condition you get to play the I’m too sore to do housework card!

Hope you get out for some fresh air. Can help heal the body and the soul.
But don’t over do it.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Getting the hang of it. Even though I feel like a busted can of biscuits, I do think I should get out of the home for a bit tomorrow. Fresh air and light walking.

I really do miss sleeping on my sides but I'm sure I'll be able to soon.

Yeah, it's funny how I've got fibromyalgia but not one doctor would prescribe opioids. Now I'm getting them but using them makes it worse.

That's my luck for you!

At least I did laundry, dusted, bleached all surfaces, swept, and wet Swiffer high traffic areas. I'm beat but the pain isn't worse after all that. So a win.

Agree with @Apple fanboy that this is the time to play the "I'm not well enough to even consider let alone contemplate housework" card.

Good luck with your recovery.

 

[Gutwrench]

Halp! Halp!

iOS 12.2 - Folder in a Folder

 

[Gutwrench]

I give up on sourdough so resorting to regular.

“5” is my baker’s trademark. Watch for my Netflix show and clothing line.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Sipping beer (Founders) and recalling my mother's sardonic remarks ('"Now, what are you going to do when I am dead and gone and buried and no longer around to do your packing?") when I was packing my suitcase (with help, yes) earlier today, but recalling how she - who always adored travel, whenever she travelled abroad herself, or whenever I did, and she would enjoy my trips vicariously - and she always enjoyed travellers' tales......she would help pack my suitcase with military precision, (not least because she had been packed off to a posh boarding school in the middle of the second world war, and had learnt to pack - precisely - for herself).

And now, yes, she is now dead and gone and buried - as she had dryly predicted all of those years ago - and I long to go to tell her.........well, maybe, I should have listened to you......hey mom, I lift a glass to you....

 

[Gutwrench]

Sipping beer (Founders) and recalling my mother's sardonic remarks ('"Now, what are you going to do when I am dead and gone and buried and no longer around to do your packing?") when I was packing my suitcase (with help, yes) earlier today, but recalling how she - who always adored travel, whenever she travelled abroad herself, or whenever I did, and she would enjoy my trips vicariously - and she always enjoyed travellers' tales......she would help pack my suitcase with military precision, (not least because she had been packed off to a posh boarding school in the middle of the second world war, and had learnt to pack - precisely - for herself).

And now, yes, she is now dead and gone and buried - as she had dryly predicted all of those years ago - and I long to go to tell her.........well, maybe, I should have listened to you......hey mom, I lift a glass to you....

I want to say something comforting. But the feeling of loss is very real. Take your time.

Oh, I know how to make a t-shirt roll for nice packing. Not to be confused with those sissy ranger rolls. (Sissy was not my original word but the MR editing caught me.)

 

[AngerDanger]

… EDIT: re the cat, in the box. What is it with cats and little boxes. I had a cat in my NYC days that used to spend hours trying to get into a box the size of the ones a pound of pretzels or graham crackers were sold in back then. The cat was the size of a couple of those boxes end to end... but no matter, he was sure there was a way to get in there. By time he finished the experiment the box was pretty much disassembled and ready for a quick smoothing over to be fit for recycling.

Liz, lemme tell you something. I have no clue what is up with cats and closed geometry!

The kitten I house-sat for (and ended up sewing a little half-shirt for) had a box that originally housed scratching cardboard, and he'd curl himself up into a little enso inside and sleep for hours.



But it's not just boxes, is it? The mere suggestion of a box is enough to attract a cat. My friend sent me this picture recently:



Then he asked:



I did some reading, and apparently cats that have some sort housing (like a box) or perceived housing (like an outline) "adapted to new situations faster and easier than a control group of felines without boxes.” One would assume it has something to do with the cat feeling as though it's surrounded by a threshold with all else on the other side, but cat's are what top scientists refer to as "****ing confusing."

More research is necessary.