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Clix Pix said:
Among other potential obstacles, Math and science really are not my skill sets!
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Neither are they mine. Senior year of high school I had a 57 in Calculus. I passed that class only because my teacher was very generous and let me retake the final. Oh, and then there's junior year of high school physics class... first semester final exam I earned a 46. Second semester final I earned a 24. No idea how I passed.

Never taken a math or science class in college. Doubt I will, honestly.
 
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rm5 said:
We're middle of week 7/10 here. Honestly this term just needs to be done already. I'm taking a 24-unit course load (6 more than normal 18 units), plus my campus job, which is way too much. Very difficult to get things done on time (I've managed to do so for the most part, but it ain't easy). I've learned my lesson... I'm never doing this much again.
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Ah! As a student! Weird timing...

I uploaded my kiddos's mid-quarter Progress Reports last Friday.

They are Secondary, Grades 10-12.

I had a few years in Uni (early-mid 90's) where my Credit Load was over the Top (of my comfort level). iirc, I gave myself the same warning, then broke it a few more times ;)
 
splifingate said:
!! Is your College Accredited?!?
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Yes, by the Associated Colleges of the Midwest.
Matz said:
This surprises and saddens me. I don't understand how a college can claim to be providing an education to its students without requiring at least basic math and science courses.
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I did not explain this well, my apologies to you both.

We have a robust math and science program - in fact, biology is one of the most, if not the most popular major here. However, the college does not require its students to take math and science classes if they don't want to. So this is by choice that I won't, because I don't feel I would do well in them. Do most people take these courses? Yes.

Without needing to take those classes, do I still think I am being thoroughly educated? Of course. In fact, that's the wonderful thing about this place is how open everything is.
 
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rm5 said:
Yes, by the Associated Colleges of the Midwest.

I did not explain this well, my apologies to you both.

We have a robust math and science program - in fact, biology is one of the most, if not the most popular major here. However, the college does not require its students to take math and science classes if they don't want to. So this is by choice that I won't, because I don't feel I would do well in them. Do most people take these courses? Yes.

Without needing to take those classes, do I still think I am being thoroughly educated? Of course. In fact, that's the wonderful thing about this place is how open everything is.
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At mines if you are liberal arts, fine arts, English or music major you only have to take a math for the liberal arts student which is only if you plan to transfer to certain universities that require you to take math as a GE.

But if you’re in a STEM major, kinesiology/sports, architecture and business majors you have to take both math and science classes.
 
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I'm definitely liberal, and I live in the arts.

It's just antithetical to my idea of Education on the Collegiate level to not be required to attain/maintain math and science proficiency (in-mind, know that I am looking-through the lens of a HS Science Teacher) ;)
 
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rm5 said:
We're middle of week 7/10 here. Honestly this term just needs to be done already. I'm taking a 24-unit course load (6 more than normal 18 units), plus my campus job, which is way too much. Very difficult to get things done on time (I've managed to do so for the most part, but it ain't easy). I've learned my lesson... I'm never doing this much again.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but when you finish full time education and start work, you’ll quickly realise how easy you had it now. Full time work is much more demanding!
 
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Chuckeee said:
Not sure about more demanding but the demands are certainly different. Much less time off but many fewer all night sessions.
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lol. Depends on your job. I worked most evenings for years on top of my regular working week. Weekends as well.

My job is definitely more demanding. Always seems to be another project or area of responsibility the owner thinks I can squeeze into my day.
 
Apple fanboy said:
lol. Depends on your job. I worked most evenings for years on top of my regular working week. Weekends as well.

My job is definitely more demanding. Always seems to be another project or area of responsibility the owner thinks I can squeeze into my day.
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I was specifically recalling those 24, 36 and 48 straight cramming sessions. [yes, I was bad at planning and a chronic procrastinator while attending college]
 
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Chuckeee said:
I was specifically recalling those 24, 36 and 48 straight cramming sessions. [yes, I was bad at planning and a chronic procrastinator while attending college]
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Well leaving something to the last minute is different from constantly getting new assignments everyday that have to be completed immediately sometimes.

I’ve yet to employ a graduate who didn’t find it a step up in terms of work compared to school.
 
Apple fanboy said:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but when you finish full time education and start work, you’ll quickly realise how easy you had it now. Full time work is much more demanding!
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Certainly, but I think it also depends on the job. If you work in education, you most likely have the summers off. My days in college regularly run at least 12 hours, and usually closer to 14. I'd say that is more than a typical 40-hour job.
 
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rm5 said:
Certainly, but I think it also depends on the job. If you work in education, you most likely have the summers off. My days in college regularly run at least 12 hours, and usually closer to 14. I'd say that is more than a typical 40-hour job.
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No argument from me that teaching education is a lot less taxing than most professions.
9-3 every day them 12 weeks off a year

lol. Just kidding. I’d not go into teaching for my wage, let alone what they get paid.
 
I get 11 weeks "off" per year, and my Days regularly go 7a-5p Often-times more (I have various Certification goals in my future; then Master(s) to complete).

Summer School is an option for more $, if I want. $ is not who I do what I do.

I'm instructing in PRTF SPED, so it's a rather different beastie than Bog Standard PubEd.

Spiritually/emotionally extremely rewarding, and the financials are quite adequate . . . that being said, overt philanthropy is probably not in my future ;)
 
Teaching can be fairly lucrative, if you've been in it for a long time. Though as I understand it, my mom went into administration not because of low pay, but because she just didn't like teaching.
 
Generally if you like academia teaching is probably a good fit for you.
However I hated it. Got out into the real world at the earliest opportunity.
Been working ever since.

Now I’m more focused on retirement than looking back to choices I made last century.
 
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Apple fanboy said:
Generally if you like academia teaching is probably a good fit for you.
However I hated it. Got out into the real world at the earliest opportunity.
Been working ever since.
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[bites-tongue]

That's *erhm* onioned-nuances all-the-way-down, AFB ;)

Apple fanboy said:
Now I’m more focused on retirement than looking back to choices I made last century.
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I've heard of this 'retirement' concept a few times over the years . . . is it sustainable?

Is it fun?
 
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splifingate said:
[bites-tongue]

That's *erhm* onioned-nuances all-the-way-down, AFB ;)



I've heard of this 'retirement' concept a few times over the years . . . is it sustainable?

Is it fun?
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Not sure. I’m not there yet. Probably won’t be as good for my generation as it was for the last. But better than it will be for the next (yours I’m guessing!).
 
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I am half-convinced that this argument that "Gen Z will be poor forever!" is a fear tactic on social media. Not trying to dismiss Apple Fanboy's point, but that's where I see this discussion. I do not see it in real life. I literally cannot think of a time when that phrase - or concept - has been brought up outside of online contexts.

Does "doing well" mean owning a house? My parents did not buy until they were in their late 40s. That's fine. Were they "doing well" before that? Yes. They didn't have their children until their late 30s/early 40s. That's fine. Having a good job... well, my mom taught for almost a decade and didn't like it. That's okay. I really don't understand the pressure. I really don't. Maybe my family is an exception, I have no idea. I sincerely doubt it though. I guess that's one thing I've learned being raised by my parents (and, shout-out to them, because they're absolutely wonderful), is that it's fine to take time.

Besides, "doing well" is deeply personal. Someone else - and more importantly, broader society - cannot dictate what that means for you. If you are happy in your situation, that is the most important thing.

Is retirement harder than it was 50 years ago? Probably. But I am so far away from that, I really don't care.
 
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rm5 said:
I am half-convinced that this argument that "Gen Z will be poor forever!" is a fear tactic on social media. Not trying to dismiss Apple Fanboy's point, but that's where I see this discussion. I do not see it in real life.

Does "doing well" mean owning a house? My parents did not buy until they were in their late 40s. That's fine. Were they "doing well" before that? Yes. They didn't have their children until their late 30s/early 40s. That's fine. Having a good job... well, my mom taught for almost a decade and didn't like it. That's okay. I really don't understand the pressure. I really don't. Maybe my family is an exception, I have no idea. I sincerely doubt it though. I guess that's one thing I've learned being raised by my parents (and, shout-out to them, because they're absolutely wonderful), is that it's fine to take time.

Besides, "doing well" is deeply personal. Someone else - and more importantly, broader society - cannot dictate what that means for you. If you are happy in your situation, that is the most important thing.

Is retirement harder than it was 50 years ago? Probably. But I am so far away from that, I really don't care.
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So without wanting to get all PRSI it’s not about individual wealth (although that plays a part), but wealth in general. As people in the West generally live longer than they used to the ‘cost’ to the taxpayer is greater.

So 50 years ago people would maybe draw a pension for a relative short time, these days that’s not the norm. That why the age I can get a state pension has changed a couple of times since I started working. Now obviously the older people get, the more it costs in medical costs.

So that is basically why it doesn’t look as good for the younger generation as it does for the older.

Owning your own home has always been important to me. I bought my first home when I was 25 or so. But everyone has a different path.
 
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Apple fanboy said:
Not sure. I’m not there yet. Probably won’t be as good for my generation as it was for the last. But better than it will be for the next (yours I’m guessing!).
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I can only imagine.

'Retirement' has never been a fish on my hook . . . it's difficult (née "Impossible") for me--right now--to envision time-spent not contributing to the Common Wheel 🤷‍♂️
 
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