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So was that the one most Mac devs used before Xcode?

Also @Scepticalscribe blood oranges are on my mind too. Just got them from a farmers market event yesterday. View attachment 2486189
Apple didn't have their own IDE. They had a bunch of tools and you would launch what you needed, and quit them to save active memory. It was a cooperative multitasking environment, so you had to be careful. My first Mac had soldered 4 MB of RAM and a slot and I paid over US$1000 for 32 MB.
 
Week off work this week and already bored blue. Not good at being off. No idea what to do, especially as I'm now single and especially in a cold and damp February. Get up, go for a walk, go for coffee, read book, listen to some music, watch TV, drink (too much) wine, bed, repeat. Can't wait to get back to work. God help me when I have 2 weeks off in April!
 
Wondering if serious news will be able to survive this era...

Just canceled my long-term subscription to The Washington Post after Bezo's announcement today. Sad.

A worry shared across the pond. The break neck speed at which events unfold is quite honeslty dizzying, having to contend with an unreliable press makes the prospect of processing and adapting daunting.

Might I suggest you divert the funds towards The Atlantic, it is part of my "society" reading of the american cultural sphere and did not until now disappoint.
 
Week off work this week and already bored blue. Not good at being off. No idea what to do, especially as I'm now single and especially in a cold and damp February. Get up, go for a walk, go for coffee, read book, listen to some music, watch TV, drink (too much) wine, bed, repeat. Can't wait to get back to work. God help me when I have 2 weeks off in April!
Why not book time off in the summer?
 
Wondering if serious news will be able to survive this era...

Just canceled my long-term subscription to The Washington Post after Bezo's announcement today. Sad.
So my Dad was telling me a story (UK based) about some piece of news. It literally was not true, completely made up. I had to explain to him that this was fake news (especially from a garbage website he reads). But he fell for it hook line and sinker. I won't go into details as its a UK politics issue, but it is sad that when you right something it gets reported as fact with no need to sense check it.


In other news

New iPhone to come equipped with teleportation device. Samsung will release theirs the following week and tell people it was their idea and spend the next decade suing each other! ;)
 
A worry shared across the pond. The break neck speed at which events unfold is quite honeslty dizzying, having to contend with an unreliable press makes the prospect of processing and adapting daunting.

Might I suggest you divert the funds towards The Atlantic, it is part of my "society" reading of the american cultural sphere and did not until now disappoint.
Thank you, great suggestion... and already a subscriber! I have to say they seem to have only gotten better the last few years too. Nice to know Apple money helps it keep going.

I'm actually thinking of switching funds to The Economist. They seem very level-headed still.
 
Thank you, great suggestion... and already a subscriber! I have to say they seem to have only gotten better the last few years too. Nice to know Apple money helps it keep going.

I'm actually thinking of switching funds to The Economist. They seem very level-headed still.

Delighted to hear that ! I sadly don't read the Economist as often as I use to. The dashboards covering the presidency are interesting but the Financial Times cuts into the allocated "economics" reading.

Do you follow any of the chinese presses ?
 
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In other news

New iPhone to come equipped with teleportation device. Samsung will release theirs the following week and tell people it was their idea and spend the next decade suing each other! ;)
I don't need the iPhone to be a teleporter. I already have a ChromeBook for that.

What I need from the iPhone is toasting. It should toast bread and bagels, and make garlic toast on demand.
 
The Economist. They seem very level-headed still.

Personally, I regard The Economist as tilting conservative while usually doing a good job of avoiding outright partisanship and blatant propaganda.

If you're interested, assuming you are in North America, I find four international broadcasters and two news publishers to be a good antidote to the current style and focus of US news outlets:

(yes, these websites and live streams are in English)

(subscribing to Bloomberg can be expensive)

Plus a tip: many local library systems offer free access to multiple news sources and databases, even on your own devices.
 
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I don't need the iPhone to be a teleporter. I already have a ChromeBook for that.

What I need from the iPhone is toasting. It should toast bread and bagels, and make garlic toast on demand.
I thought a Chromebook was for Spider Solitaire?

Now I’m thinking about toast. I have two pieces of bread a week. Mrs AFB doesn’t eat any. Yet we have a dedicated toaster. Weird.

At work our toaster had a Y2K compliant sticker on it for years. Someone in IT thought it was funny.
 
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Apple didn't have their own IDE. They had a bunch of tools and you would launch what you needed, and quit them to save active memory. It was a cooperative multitasking environment, so you had to be careful. My first Mac had soldered 4 MB of RAM and a slot and I paid over US$1000 for 32 MB.

They did, actually. I remember doing a short course in it some 30+ years ago. It was a bit like a Unix environment, with compilers, editor, make tools and the like. I can't remember for the life of me what it was called, though.

Ah, Google Is Your Friend...
It was called MPW, Macintosh Programmer's Workbench (scroll down to IDEs).
 
They did, actually. I remember doing a short course in it some 30+ years ago. It was a bit like a Unix environment, with compilers, editor, make tools and the like. I can't remember for the life of me what it was called, though.

Ah, Google Is Your Friend...
It was called MPW, Macintosh Programmer's Workbench (scroll down to IDEs).
I still consider MPW more of a menu than an integrated environment. It was looser than the IDEs that followed.
 
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I used Toast at a tech store in Japan to put photos on a CD. The interface was in Japanese, but I had used Toast enough times that I knew which menu choice to pick by position, even though I couldn't read the words.
Can you re-create the words with AOL CDs?
 
HyperCard .. remember when Apple released it?

They were so so close to inventing the www without realizing it ….

Links, data sharing … all of it … but within HyperCard stacks not across web addresses..

It was an interesting app.....but it was something produced by computer guys for other computer guys and not something the general public was prepared to use.....and so it disappeared
 
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Week off work this week and already bored blue. Not good at being off. No idea what to do, especially as I'm now single and especially in a cold and damp February. Get up, go for a walk, go for coffee, read book, listen to some music, watch TV, drink (too much) wine, bed, repeat. Can't wait to get back to work. God help me when I have 2 weeks off in April!
Listen to music for 8-12 hours a day, that's what I do on days off. I'm serious.
 
Apple didn't have their own IDE. They had a bunch of tools and you would launch what you needed, and quit them to save active memory. It was a cooperative multitasking environment, so you had to be careful. My first Mac had soldered 4 MB of RAM and a slot and I paid over US$1000 for 32 MB.
Which Mac was it? Of course adding extra memory cards even to the soldered in ones is hard.
They did, actually. I remember doing a short course in it some 30+ years ago. It was a bit like a Unix environment, with compilers, editor, make tools and the like. I can't remember for the life of me what it was called, though.

Ah, Google Is Your Friend...
It was called MPW, Macintosh Programmer's Workbench (scroll down to IDEs).
Lots of things earlier but now with modern IDEs we get code completion, AI pair programming, and even other things to automate writing tedious things versus reading Stack Overflow threads and scrolling for answers...
 
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Oh my goodness! So, you owned Apple products all the way back when? I still remember the massive floppy disks that were used in these devices.

Do you recall before Safari was first introduced, that Macs came with Internet Explorer, which is a Microsoft product? That was the default browser until Mac OS X Snow Leopard or OS X Lion, I believe.



I recently learned that HTML5, Java, and JavaScript are considered newer programming languages.

When I shared a story about receiving a passing score on my Java final project for my online coding boot camp over the winter break, I received mixed reactions from some of you. Even one of you, who had previously used Fortran and encountered compilation errors, expressed surprise. I was puzzled because none of my computer science classes had mentioned these languages. It occurred to me that these languages were developed long before the advent of supercomputers.

An update: To provide some context, I managed to secure a 100% on all components of the capstone project despite the tight deadline of Valentine’s Day. The Canvas platform locked down due to the time-sensitive nature of the task, but I managed to submit all the components on time minutes before it. Just because I accidentally forgot to lowercase the name of the switch statement. Slipped on only one thing, that my GitHub repository was somewhat disorganized since I was rushed and only had time to post the code on GitHub. Consequently, I inadvertently skipped over the readme section.

On a positive note, I received an A in the winter online class from my Java teacher. The only aspect I disliked was the workload, which involved completing 11 programming problems per week compared to the two to four programs I had in my regular semester C++ class last semester. I did max out all of the extra credit she had by taking the bonus mock quizzes.
I could look it up, but I’m lazy. When was Safari introduced? I just don’t remember using Microsoft Explorer, but the name is actually familiar to me from those early days. My Apple IIe, no Internet. My first Mac was a Performa something or other (630?, 1992) that I bought at Sears of all places. Back then, I was on dial up, charged by the minute by Compuserve. I did very little online, other than logging into Compuserve, posting on their forums and logging into the Union’s web site (that I was a member of). It was very primitive online, as compared to the Mac’s GUI interface. Compuserve was where I was actually awarded the name.”Huntn” and have used it ever since. It was much more intimate feeling than online is today. The first Windows box I saw, didn’t even have a GUI interface, that’s why I went with the Mac, there was no comparing the two.
 
I could look it up, but I’m lazy. When was Safari introduced? I just don’t remember using Microsoft Explorer, but the name is actually familiar to me from those early days. My Apple IIe, no Internet. My first Mac was a Performa something or other (630?, 1992) that I bought at Sears of all places. Back then, I was on dial up, charged by the minute by Compuserve. I did very little online, other than logging into Compuserve, posting on their forums and logging into the Union’s web site (that I was a member of). It was very primitive online, as compared to the Mac’s GUI interface. Compuserve was where I was actually awarded the name.”Huntn” and have used it ever since. It was much more intimate feeling than online is today. The first Windows box I saw, didn’t even have a GUI interface, that’s why I went with the Mac, there was no comparing the two.
Actually I realised when I looked up macOS versions OS X Panther started getting Safari. So it was already implemented shortly after OS X debuted, but Panther remained a pivotal version of macOS released in the early years. Has anyone went to the OS X Night of the Panther events at Apple Stores? A very, very long time ago, but I would love to hear your perspectives.
 
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I could look it up, but I’m lazy. When was Safari introduced? I just don’t remember using Microsoft Explorer, but the name is actually familiar to me from those early days. My Apple IIe, no Internet. My first Mac was a Performa something or other (630?, 1992) that I bought at Sears of all places. Back then, I was on dial up, charged by the minute by Compuserve. I did very little online, other than logging into Compuserve, posting on their forums and logging into the Union’s web site (that I was a member of). It was very primitive online, as compared to the Mac’s GUI interface. Compuserve was where I was actually awarded the name.”Huntn” and have used it ever since. It was much more intimate feeling than online is today. The first Windows box I saw, didn’t even have a GUI interface, that’s why I went with the Mac, there was no comparing the two.
Remember that Safari was an offshoot of the KHTML browser. Apple found so many problems and they kept sending updates to the KDE people and the developers were overwhelmed.

I still remember logging into CompuServe with 72677,3650 and some password. Eventually, they turned that into an e-mail address for the outside world: 72677.3650@cis.com or some such.
 
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