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Some of us -- many of us? -- on MR have been Apple fans since before you and other members of this forum were even born! :) We're the ones who eagerly and happily bought the first of many exciting new Apple products as they initially arrived on the scene and we're the ones who also experienced either online or in person the incredible and fascinating charisma of Steve Jobs. Those years were really exciting in a way which, alas, is now for many reasons just not the same.

Steve Jobs' keynote presentations were something else, weren't they? I'm glad we have so many of them available for still viewing and appreciating today. I am so, so happy that I made the decision to register for and attend MacWorld in January of 2006, as that was certainly a memorable event for many reasons. It was the one and only time I saw Steve Jobs in person -- at a distance, of course, from my seat way back in the auditorium.

I haven't been to the (in my mind still new) Apple Park campus and the store there, and much as I'd love to get back out there to CA to see it, that probably won't happen. From all the photos and comments I've read about the place, it's wonderful for Apple fans to experience!

Another special time I remember from my trip in 2006 when I was in CA for MacWorld, is that I did spend a day doing an excursion from San Francisco (where MacWorld was held) out to Cupertino and One Infinite Loop to visit the original campus, "the Mothership," so to speak (even have a t-shirt with just that name on the front!), and had a delightful time in what was then called "the Company Store." I am still using some of the goodies which I brought home from there.

Also, while I was out there, a friend took me to spend some time at the fascinating Computer History Museum in Mountain View, CA -- a really neat place! Both of us geeked out on all the neat stuff we saw and learned about.

Wow, that was a long time ago now.....
That’s why you’ve been a die-hard Apple fan, my friend. I didn’t have any Apple devices until 2014, so I wasn’t a big fan when Steve Jobs was still around. This website has everything you could ever want to know about Apple history, from the late Mac OS days to the latest Apple Intelligence, iOS 18, and macOS 15.0 sequoia. It’s even better than the Apple support communities forums, which are often overlooked. You went to the computer history museum in Mountain View? That’s awesome! I think Santa Clara also has a museum like that. I should definitely add it to my Bay Area trip itinerary for summer vacation. Once Apple announces WWDC somewhere in the next two months, I’ll be trying to get a spot in the lottery to visit Apple Park for the keynote event in June. Fingers crossed that WWDC week doesn’t land during finals week and graduation! This school year, my college has the last day of school on mid-June instead of last year’s before WWDC 2024 in early June. If Apple picks me to go to the WWDC keynote, I hope won’t have to rush to do my finals early.
Back on topic here (not that there is exactly a formal one!): what's on my mind: I finally completed a rather large project that has been bugging me for the past couple of months. Whew!
Though it’s an off topic thread y’all, I got errands to run downtown today. And I cannot believe how MR is now 25 years old?! Since 2000? A little before I was born.
Happy quarter century birthday to MacRumors!

Now where's my slice of cake?

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But the cherry on top is the wealth of helpful sources we receive internally and the broadest range of perspectives from former, current Apple employees and all types of Apple enthusiasts here to support this website. Over 25 years, new and old folks. We surpass even Think Secret and iMore (which is now defunct). Moreover, we have played a pivotal role in helping other Apple-related sites like 9to5Mac and AppleInsider flourish to new heights!
 
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Used my first Mac in 1988, anyone remember Aldus pagemaker? MacWorld and MacUser mags?

And yes, happy birthday Macrumors...
I remember being on the support line for Aldus PageMaker in 1989. The hospital administration company got the Windows 2.0 version of PageMaker and it was a bit rough around the edges. I had to teach the marketing director how to use it.

I read MacUser and MacFormat magazines eventually, but I was an Atari ST user until 1993 when I got my Performa 476.
 
I understand how ignorant this sounds, but due to my age I always find it absolutely mind blowing that in the late 90's and early 2k's there were several web developers coding away while many hadn't even used the internet before.. no html5 or powerful js libraries, just basic HTML and dns, and that's all you needed! Older technology is the best.
 
I lived in San Diego for a year in 1980. We loved it but I recognized congestion as compared to South Texas yet it was manageable. :) Then about 7 years later we went back to visit and it was even more developed near the neighborhood we lived in, Rancho Penasquitas, close to Rancho Bernardo. I've always said, California must of been a wonder place to live in the 1950s... 🤔

My first Apple, Apple IIe, 1983. Add the color monitor (was it color?), dual disk drives, and a printer, boy was it expensive. 🤔
Oh my goodness! So, you owned Apple products all the way back when? I still remember the massive floppy disks that were used in these devices.

Do you recall before Safari was first introduced, that Macs came with Internet Explorer, which is a Microsoft product? That was the default browser until Mac OS X Snow Leopard or OS X Lion, I believe.


I understand how ignorant this sounds, but due to my age I always find it absolutely mind blowing that in the late 90's and early 2k's there were several web developers coding away while many hadn't even used the internet before.. no html5 or powerful js libraries, just basic HTML and dns, and that's all you needed! Older technology is the best.
I recently learned that HTML5, Java, and JavaScript are considered newer programming languages.

When I shared a story about receiving a passing score on my Java final project for my online coding boot camp over the winter break, I received mixed reactions from some of you. Even one of you, who had previously used Fortran and encountered compilation errors, expressed surprise. I was puzzled because none of my computer science classes had mentioned these languages. It occurred to me that these languages were developed long before the advent of supercomputers.

An update: To provide some context, I managed to secure a 100% on all components of the capstone project despite the tight deadline of Valentine’s Day. The Canvas platform locked down due to the time-sensitive nature of the task, but I managed to submit all the components on time minutes before it. Just because I accidentally forgot to lowercase the name of the switch statement. Slipped on only one thing, that my GitHub repository was somewhat disorganized since I was rushed and only had time to post the code on GitHub. Consequently, I inadvertently skipped over the readme section.

On a positive note, I received an A in the winter online class from my Java teacher. The only aspect I disliked was the workload, which involved completing 11 programming problems per week compared to the two to four programs I had in my regular semester C++ class last semester. I did max out all of the extra credit she had by taking the bonus mock quizzes.
 
I recently learned that HTML5, Java, and JavaScript are considered newer programming languages.
This surprises me as Java has been around since the mid 90s and I believe JavaScript was invented the same year as Java (95').

However yes, HTML has gone through several revisions to stay abreast of the current landscape. Many changes brought forth by HTML5 were to assist with optimizing layouts and search engine optimization. I worked as a web developer for a year before moving to enterprise IT and I always found the "old" internet super fascinating. I didn't start using a computer regularly until about 07 so I missed out on a lot, unfortunately.
 
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This surprises me as Java has been around since the mid 90s and I believe JavaScript was invented the same year as Java (95').

However yes, HTML has gone through several revisions to stay abreast of the current landscape. Many changes brought forth by HTML5 were to assist with optimizing layouts and search engine optimization. I worked as a web developer for a year before moving to enterprise IT and I always found the "old" internet super fascinating. I didn't start using a computer regularly until about 07 so I missed out on a lot, unfortunately.
So, you were a developer after being an Apple technician? I still value your opinions and perspectives when I seek advice on the ideal accessories for my iPhone, such as cases and MagSafe, considering my 11 years of experience as an Apple user.

By the way, I had forgotten to ask you this: Do you wear an Apple Watch? ⌚️ Since you’re mostly active in the MacBook Pro and macOS forums, I’m just a lurker there, gathering opinions from Mac users about which MacBook Pro I should purchase.
 
Oh my goodness! So, you owned Apple products all the way back when? I still remember the massive floppy disks that were used in these devices.

Do you recall before Safari was first introduced, that Macs came with Internet Explorer, which is a Microsoft product? That was the default browser until Mac OS X Snow Leopard or OS X Lion, I believe.



I recently learned that HTML5, Java, and JavaScript are considered newer programming languages.

When I shared a story about receiving a passing score on my Java final project for my online coding boot camp over the winter break, I received mixed reactions from some of you. Even one of you, who had previously used Fortran and encountered compilation errors, expressed surprise. I was puzzled because none of my computer science classes had mentioned these languages. It occurred to me that these languages were developed long before the advent of supercomputers.

An update: To provide some context, I managed to secure a 100% on all components of the capstone project despite the tight deadline of Valentine’s Day. The Canvas platform locked down due to the time-sensitive nature of the task, but I managed to submit all the components on time minutes before it. Just because I accidentally forgot to lowercase the name of the switch statement. Slipped on only one thing, that my GitHub repository was somewhat disorganized since I was rushed and only had time to post the code on GitHub. Consequently, I inadvertently skipped over the readme section.

On a positive note, I received an A in the winter online class from my Java teacher. The only aspect I disliked was the workload, which involved completing 11 programming problems per week compared to the two to four programs I had in my regular semester C++ class last semester. I did max out all of the extra credit she had by taking the bonus mock quizzes.
I've programmed in a couple of business languages such as COBOL and RPG II/III/IV, as well as Pascal, C, C++ and more. Pascal was a big part of Mac development in the early days.

Most of the people in Silicon Valley that made things special, e.g. those at Xerox PARC had mathematics degrees because there were no Computer Science degrees at the time.
 
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Ahh 25 years MacRumors .
Memory lane indeed.
20 years ago I was working with Apple on integrating their iPod and its 30pin connector into autos.
We did it on Nissan products first going thru a gateway device, I launched that in 2006.


Anyone here own a MacPortable back in 1989? I did.

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Yea. That’s me 9/1984, I owed the very first Mac..
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Got my complementary subscription, still have it
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Yes, who else programmed in Basic?
Subscribed to nibble Mac?
Still have a few copies.
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MacWeek, remember that weekly magazine in the mid 1990’s??
It was so thick!!
Pages and pages of new innovations.
I’d drool waiting for my copy.
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Stressed out immensely right now because people are being extremely vague, and even worse, not being transparent at all. All I want is concrete information and a concrete answer to my question without people inserting their own biases/desires into the equation. This is just getting insane, I don't even know what to do anymore.
 
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Do you recall before Safari was first introduced, that Macs came with Internet Explorer, which is a Microsoft product? That was the default browser until Mac OS X Snow Leopard or OS X Lion, I believe.

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Actually, before Safari came along, users had the option of using Netscape Navigator, which was usually the browser of choice (and came bundled with Macs), or they could use I.E. (Internet Explorer). Since most Mac users wanted to stay away from Windows and I.E. if they could, Netscape Navigator was preferred. Starting with Mac OS X 8.1, IE was the default browser on the Mac due to a five-year agreement with Microsoft, but Netscape was still also preinstalled on all Macs.

There were not annual releases of new versions of Mac OS X back then. Safari was first bundled with Panther (MacOS 10.3) in 2003. That was followed by Tiger ( Mac OS X 10.4), which was released in April 2005. My first Mac in October of 2005 came with Tiger. There was a long stretch of time until Leopard (Mac OS X 10) arrived in October 2007. There was a lot of excitement around Leopard and people (including me!) lined up at the store to purchase it on the first day it was available.
 
Ha, Netscape Navigator!

I worked for a large paperback publisher and we went on an intro to html day (1995?) and while we were playing around we were introduced to a brand new online bookseller named after an South American River that the trainer seemed pretty intrigued by...
 
I've programmed in a couple of business languages such as COBOL and RPG II/III/IV, as well as Pascal, C, C++ and more. Pascal was a big part of Mac development in the early days.

Most of the people in Silicon Valley that made things special, e.g. those at Xerox PARC had mathematics degrees because there were no Computer Science degrees at the time.
C++ was one of the programming languages I learned before Java. It’s an older language, and I found it easy to learn how to build programs in C++ when I took it last fall semester. It’s also a foundational programming language that many computer science and engineering majors have to learn. By the way, it’s not too hard to learn.
Actually, before Safari came along, users had the option of using Netscape Navigator, which was usually the browser of choice (and came bundled with Macs), or they could use I.E. (Internet Explorer). Since most Mac users wanted to stay away from Windows and I.E. if they could, Netscape Navigator was preferred. Starting with Mac OS X 8.1, IE was the default browser on the Mac due to a five-year agreement with Microsoft, but Netscape was still also preinstalled on all Macs.

There were not annual releases of new versions of Mac OS X back then. Safari was first bundled with Panther (MacOS 10.3) in 2003. That was followed by Tiger ( Mac OS X 10.4), which was released in April 2005. My first Mac in October of 2005 came with Tiger. There was a long stretch of time until Leopard (Mac OS X 10) arrived in October 2007. There was a lot of excitement around Leopard and people (including me!) lined up at the store to purchase it on the first day it was available.
Makes sense now. I do recall that OS X wasn’t an annual update thing until the 2010s; when iOS flourished even more with the advent of the iPad, iPod touch, and iPhone. 📱 Was Netscape created by Apple? I don’t think so. I didn’t go that far back with Apple when I was young, I was more into Nintendo games like Mario and Kirby. Back then, Apple used to host events in their stores during OS X releases, like the Night of the Panther! 🐆
 
Who’s got theirs still??
Countless $$$’s spent buying stuff from MacWarehouse and other catalog places then.
Mine still works.
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😂 these vintage floppy disks 💾 with calculators!!! Wasn’t that a vintage apple authorized reseller?
Ahh 25 years MacRumors .
Memory lane indeed.
20 years ago I was working with Apple on integrating their iPod and its 30pin connector into autos.
We did it on Nissan products first going thru a gateway device, I launched that in 2006.
Met face to face with these guys a few times.
Pre iPhone, pre CarPlay
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Anyone here own a MacPortable back in 1989? I did.

b16e94c8d0579ecf8d67cc54131f97d3.jpg

185661938cc9aa717479b575378b20b9.jpg


Yea. That’s me 9/1984, I owed the very first Mac..
3d4c02b27abb7248f90fca27a8576f74.jpg


Got my complementary subscription, still have it
5747b1eccd4bf7af5885bb111c584845.jpg


Yes, who else programmed in Basic?
Subscribed to nibble Mac?
Still have a few copies.
1dfe3a6b3cb08eb0574e591823b0340d.jpg


MacWeek, remember that weekly magazine in the mid 1990’s??
It was so thick!!
Pages and pages of new innovations.
I’d drool waiting for my copy.
6f95bac7b998dc0bdf6bd787b2378459.jpg
You were a former  hardware engineer, right? Would love to hear how it was like designing these FireWire iPods.
 
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