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It’s obvious I won’t be happy until I brick this thing or die trying.

I will update after the upgrade to Windows 11 is complete.
 

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Nasty WDF_Violation BSOD about ~10 seconds after login, every time without fail.

Will troubleshoot the next couple of days to see what can be done. It’s almost certainly the Intel HD 3000 iGPU.
 
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Bridge to Windows 11 Complete?

Continue at your own risk, backup files etc.

Upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11. I kept all my files as well.

Follow this YouTube clip for those instructions to get your installation ready:

Now, assuming everything went smooth check out these 2 Reddit threads:

https://www.reddit.com/r/bootcamp/comments/o8lyj4
https://www.reddit.com/r/bootcamp/comments/cesawt
— a note on step #7 for brigadier. I believe the author mistyped with the INF install. I used the driver located in the iMac Pro bootcamp package and all has been working beautifully.

I will be testing an egpu in the coming days. I’ll most likely go with an old workstation graphics card certified to work with windows 11 as I’m not much of a gamer anymore. To my surprise the Intel HD 3000 hasn’t caused any issues yet. Tested YouTube, Netflix and local video with VLC and all played fine.

anything else anyone with an older mac wants me to try? Ask away.
 

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I have a Radeon RX 460 in an Akitio Thunder2 hooked up to my main Mac - but someday I wanna hook that up to the 2011 MBP and see what happens. :)
How is the RX 460 on the macOS side of things? Specifically Mojave/Catalina?
 

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How is the RX 460 on the macOS side of things? Specifically Mojave/Catalina?
I’m on Mojave and it works great. I don’t use it for gaming though, but to hook up monitors that my Mac‘s integrated GPU cannot handle.
 
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I’m on Mojave and it works great. I don’t use it for gaming though, but to hook up monitors that my Mac‘s integrated GPU cannot handle.
Yeah I’m more interested in compatibility across the board. Is it safe to assume the RX 460 will work from High Sierra all the way to Monterey?
 
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Is there much latency between the iGPU and the RX 460?
What do you mean by latency?

Is it safe to assume the RX 460 will work from High Sierra all the way to Monterey?
Drivers for Polaris GPUs were added in Sierra, and Macs with Polaris GPUs are compatible with Monterey so they should be safe.

You need a patch to enable eGPUs on Thunderbolt 1 or 2 Macs.
 
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First iGPU issue on windows 11 encountered?

The teams app doesn’t launch properly. Blank white box, graphics and text never appear.
 
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Teams app issue on windows 11 appears to have resolved itself.

Latest release of libreoffice will not open. Uninstalled, reinstalled and all.

H264ify has worked wonders. YouTube running on an external 1080P monitor and things are stable.
 

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I now recommend MBR as well as doing a bit more playing around as long as you do not intend to connect an egpu. Modern GPUs need to boot into EFI mode to work. More details here:

https://egpu.io/forums/builds/mid-2...-to-tb1-adapter-macos10-13-4-win10-clarketus/

So this is the most I’ve used windows in a very long time. The internal trackpad on these MacBooks works beautifully. Even the 3 & 4 finger gestures are working very well jumping between apps/desktops etc.

The Magic Trackpad 2 however, not as much. I’m assuming this is because Apple does not officially provide support. The 3 & 4 finger gestures refuse to work on this thing no matter what I do in settings.
Updated this post to highlight what will be required if you plan to connect an egpu to these older MacBooks and use Bootcamp.
 

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Still waiting on the last few pieces to wrap this up. The Razer Core Chroma X is a monster. I did not expect this thing to be this heavy, but well made. The USB A Ports & Ethernet will come in handy on newer usb-c only Macs 😆
 
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Wow. It sure is. Seems like you’re making it double or nothing! ;)
Haha. Once you consider the costs of quality usb-c hubs to get USB-A and a decent Ethernet connection it pretty much erases the premium you can get these for over other egpu enclosures.

Definitely lose the portability of those hubs Apple loves to upsell us though.
 
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Once you consider the costs of quality usb-c hubs to get USB-A and a decent Ethernet connection it pretty much erases the premium you can get these for over other egpu enclosures.
Yeah, my Akitio Thunder2 is as bare-bones as it gets. Good enough for me though.
 
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If we're going to talk about installing Windows 11 on basically anything, especially if it's already running Windows 10, I can't help but feel this tool will simplify things a lot: https://github.com/AveYo/MediaCreationTool.bat

I can't speak to the Apple specific drivers needed, but I have personally used this to update three unsupported PCs to 11, and while I can't say everything just works, I didn't expect that from the Dell from 2011 in the first place. What it does do is work enough, and work quite well. I guess the question now is, how long will they support the unsupported?
 
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Yeah, my Akitio Thunder2 is as bare-bones as it gets. Good enough for me though.
the temptation of painting this in silver or space gray…


If we're going to talk about installing Windows 11 on basically anything, especially if it's already running Windows 10, I can't help but feel this tool will simplify things a lot: https://github.com/AveYo/MediaCreationTool.bat

I can't speak to the Apple specific drivers needed, but I have personally used this to update three unsupported PCs to 11, and while I can't say everything just works, I didn't expect that from the Dell from 2011 in the first place. What it does do is work enough, and work quite well. I guess the question now is, how long will they support the unsupported?
That’s going to be the interesting question. I can’t imagine Microsoft taking an aggressive approach to lock out specific hardware. Not worth their time.

Any updates that break unsupported HW or vulnerabilities arise they can just issue a blanket statement highlighting their system requirements.
 

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That’s going to be the interesting question. I can’t imagine Microsoft taking an aggressive approach to lock out specific hardware. Not worth their time.

Any updates that break unsupported HW or vulnerabilities arise they can just issue a blanket statement highlighting their system requirements.
Given the both oddly high and low effort that has gone into Windows 11, I would expect it to work at least as long as Windows 10 does on the same hardware. Who knows how long that will really be?

But now that we know that 11 works on almost anything that has full 64-bit Intel support, that's a whole lot of Macs.
 
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For those that care. My Magic Trackpad 2 works great wirelessly with full multi-finger gestures working on Windows 11.

Previously it would only work as intended connected via the lightning cable.
 
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Settled on "ONLYOFFICE" for this machine. LibreOffice, for whatever reason will not open no matter what I tried.

No, I will not be using Microsoft Office in any capacity. I am assuming that will work, but those tests won't come from me lol.

At this point I can close this Windows 11 question for now on the Early 2011, 13" MBP. Everything works well, Windows itself has updated a few times and still good. I would still recommend Windows 10 for most people not willing to beta test a new OS from Microsoft, but happy to report that I haven't had any catastrophic issues since release date.
 
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