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What's your grade of Mountain Lion?

  • 1 star

    Votes: 14 7.1%
  • 2 stars

    Votes: 8 4.0%
  • 3 stars

    Votes: 17 8.6%
  • 4 stars

    Votes: 58 29.3%
  • 5 stars

    Votes: 101 51.0%

  • Total voters
    198

erik7970

macrumors member
Jan 3, 2009
38
0
I don't think that is a moot point at all. It is Apple's job to come of with new developments. What would improve this version of OS X would be the introduction of new major capabilities.

Imagine something like Finder being thrown out all together for something completely new. Something that blows Finder and Explorer out of the water. Something "cool" and exciting. Something to brag about. Adding these notification "features" are just that. A feature. They do not introduce mass functionality gains and ML is made up of 200+, little incremental, great changes. I think ML is solid, but I think that Apple needs to change focus and really start the development of the next generation OS. I think they are and I hope we will get a glimpse sometime soon.

Gizmodo does a great job of explaining my same point. While ML is great, Apple could have done SO much more with an OS upgrade. I don't have any brilliant ideas to specifically introduce. But what I love is change. And moving forward, change, much like what Microsoft is doing, will really form the path for the progression of future Operating Systems. And if Apple can come up with something original, the same way Microsoft did, I think it will make for a truly "exciting" release.

Right now I'm waiting for my ML redemption code. And sadly, I'm kind of okay with waiting a little while. Sure, I'm disappointed I don't have the download right now, but I'd be more upset if I were truly ecstatic for the release. And that's what is missing. The excitement and thrill of a new OS. ML is here and it's nice and alright, but I want something awesome. That is what I mean by more. I wanted something exciting, outstanding, never thought of before. I want to be blown away by a keynote for OS X, not just iOS.

I hope that helps you understand.

Agreed for the most part. I'm yearning for new, truly innovative desktop OS features worth promoting as well--something that would set Apple apart from the competition once again. That being said, I think Apple is reserving those features that would define the next-gen desktop operating systems for Mac OS 11. I think Apple's desktop OS updates since Snow Leopard have purposely been minimal in regard to introducing something new and similarly with the price just so they could sort of move on from OS X and usher in something truly refreshing.
 

Hephaestus

macrumors 6502
Apr 4, 2010
356
13
Mountain Lion is awesome, exceeded my expectations in every way! I was a little worried it would be sluggish on my 2009 MBP but its actually smoother and faster than Snow Leopard! Apple have done an awesome job, hats off!
 

LostSoul80

macrumors 68020
Jan 25, 2009
2,136
7
I'll give it one last try, since this is a one way conversation. :rolleyes:

I don't think that is a moot point at all. It is Apple's job to come of with new developments. What would improve this version of OS X would be the introduction of new major capabilities..

Such as? You're mentioning something you don't know yourself.
What new capabilities are you talking about? And "it's Apple's jobs to think about that" is not an answer, since you are talking about them. If you have no idea what are them, what are you talking about?

Imagine something like Finder being thrown out all together for something completely new. Something that blows Finder and Explorer out of the water. Something "cool" and exciting. Something to brag about. Adding these notification "features" are just that. A feature. They do not introduce mass functionality gains and ML is made up of 200+, little incremental, great changes. I think ML is solid, but I think that Apple needs to change focus and really start the development of the next generation OS. I think they are and I hope we will get a glimpse sometime soon.

Again, that's nonsense.
Ohh, I'd like my car to just have more, MORE, something new, completely awesome.
That's just like saying nothing, my friend.


Gizmodo does a great job of explaining my same point. While ML is great, Apple could have done SO much more with an OS upgrade. I don't have any brilliant ideas to specifically introduce. But what I love is change. And moving forward, change, much like what Microsoft is doing, will really form the path for the progression of future Operating Systems. And if Apple can come up with something original, the same way Microsoft did, I think it will make for a truly "exciting".

That article doesn't really support your point, of which I doubt any consistency.
Could have done what? If you can't answer that, there is no point in telling you want something new. All you'd want, in that case, is excitement, and my suggestion is to search for it outside any computer-related world (except for dating sites, if you really need :) ).
 

Auzburner

macrumors 65816
Apr 11, 2008
1,255
1
Syracuse, NY - USA
Agreed for the most part. I'm yearning for new, truly innovative desktop OS features worth promoting as well--something that would set Apple apart from the competition once again. That being said, I think Apple is reserving those features that would define the next-gen desktop operating systems for Mac OS 11. I think Apple's desktop OS updates since Snow Leopard have purposely been minimal in regard to introducing something new and similarly with the price just so they could sort of move on from OS X and usher in something truly refreshing.

I think so too. I think Apple is readying to complete OS X an go in another direction. I think OS 11 will be seeing much of what I describe. And like I said, my anticipation for something of the sort is growing immensely as of late.
 

virtuosity

macrumors member
Jun 12, 2008
98
1
Manchester, UK
I'll give it one last try, since this is a one way conversation. :rolleyes:



Such as? You're mentioning something you don't know yourself.
What new capabilities are you talking about? And "it's Apple's jobs to think about that" is not an answer, since you are talking about them. If you have no idea what are them, what are you talking about?



Again, that's nonsense.
Ohh, I'd like my car to just have more, MORE, something new, completely awesome.
That's just like saying nothing, my friend.




That article doesn't really support your point, of which I doubt any consistency.
Could have done what? If you can't answer that, there is no point in telling you want something new. All you'd want, in that case, is excitement, and my suggestion is to search for it outside any computer-related world (except for dating sites, if you really need :) ).

Agree.

The problem is, when you provide an OS from the off that contains so much out of the box, and is so comprehensive - consumer expectation is raised with it...

it's similar with the iPhone - people are disappointed, some distraught, when Apple didn't release an iPhone 5 earlier in the year - they want it, and they want it NOW!! They're not happy with merely 'minor tweaks'...

I think OS 11 will see some significant changes to the UI, and that's what they're working on right now...
 

LostSoul80

macrumors 68020
Jan 25, 2009
2,136
7
Agree.

The problem is, when you provide an OS from the off that contains so much out of the box, and is so comprehensive - consumer expectation is raised with it...

it's similar with the iPhone - people are disappointed, some distraught, when Apple didn't release an iPhone 5 earlier in the year - they want it, and they want it NOW!! They're not happy with merely 'minor tweaks'...

I think OS 11 will see some significant changes to the UI, and that's what they're working on right now...

I understand, but "rating" an OS basing on expectations is plain silly.
"Rating" basing on the actual product makes, at the very least, sense, taking into account the actual features and stability, instead of talking about ghosts.
I find very silly the unjustified attempts of people disappointed by their expectations, probably aimed at creating an artificial sense of excitement, in finding something concrete, instead of talking nonsense.
 

Hephaestus

macrumors 6502
Apr 4, 2010
356
13
ok so i just had a freeze, guess I spoke too soon... :( hopefully it was an isolated incident, had to do a hard reset.
 

linuxcooldude

macrumors 68020
Mar 1, 2010
2,480
7,232
Said this once before, can't expect Revolutionary in just a years time. Other things you need to consider:

Too many drastic changes all at once make people need to relearn the operating system all over again. Something most people are not willing to do. It needs to be done gradually over time.

Throwing in features for just new features sake is just stupid. Is certain features really needed or to pacify people who can't wait for the natural evolution of technology to progress at its own level?
 

krspkbl

macrumors 68020
Jul 20, 2012
2,449
5,883
I've fallen in love with Mountain Lion!

I can't believe how fast it is on my almost 4 year old MacBook! Lion is so sluggish compared to 10.8!

No problems for me SO FAR! fingers crossed it stays that way :) Everything's running nice and smooth.

Worth the £13.99? Yes. I'd pay double or triple!
 

doug in albq

Suspended
Oct 12, 2007
1,449
246
A very simple one: Finder. If Apple is lazy/doesn't want to prioritize, I could easily suggest they buy PathFinder and DefaultFolder and integrate those into OS X. Bang, a better Finder for all of us.

Or maybe you could buy their software yourself, and integrate them into your OS...
 

Hyper-X

macrumors 6502a
Jul 1, 2011
581
1
Much better than Lion but still far from where it can be.

I don't like how Apple's stubborn to implement very useful features other OS's use and sometimes late (like finally allowing windows to be resized from just one corner, only offered in Lion and above).

For example MS has Windows Snapping by default, for OSX you need to download an app for it. I never realized just how Microsoft has set the standard on how well multiple monitors work. Local monitor, clone, extend, external monitor toggle work so easily where as in OS X, you still have to fumble around just to achieve the same thing.

Mountain Lion still blanks out the second monitor when in fullscreen mode. I would've expected Apple to have fixed this by now.
 

Roy G Biv

macrumors 6502
Dec 26, 2010
362
104
I'd like to see Apple smash the paradigm of what an operating system is. What if time and consciousness were to fuse together in a way that creates entirely new, holistic means of interacting with our computers without physical input? That would blow me away.
 

benthewraith

macrumors 68040
May 27, 2006
3,140
143
Fort Lauderdale, FL
I gave it a 4/5. It's been relatively stable. Although I have an issue where I get the following error message when trying to do simple things like change my desktop wallpaper.

Code:
7/25/12 9:21:46.667 PM WindowServer[84]: CGXDeferSurfaces : Invalid source window 1622
7/25/12 9:21:49.456 PM System Preferences[1205]: *** WARNING: -[NSImage compositeToPoint:operation:] is deprecated in MacOSX 10.8 and later. Please use -[NSImage drawAtPoint:fromRect:operation:fraction:] instead.
7/25/12 9:21:49.456 PM System Preferences[1205]: *** WARNING: -[NSImage compositeToPoint:fromRect:operation:] is deprecated in MacOSX 10.8 and later. Please use -[NSImage drawAtPoint:fromRect:operation:fraction:] instead.
 

Krazy Bill

macrumors 68030
Dec 21, 2011
2,985
3
I can't believe Apple haven't acquired and integrated PathFinder yet - every Mac user I have introduced this product to - just blows them away... Come on Apple, it's not just windoze users that need to manipulate files!!

Apple does not want you in the file system. They want you to manage files within each application.

I can't believe how some mac users cling to false hope waiting for some grandiose innovation to be injected into OSX. You guys still think OSX and iOS (in the minds of Apple) should be different. Even after 2 iterations of "Back to the Mac" now. :eek:
 
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