If people were mobbing Apple Stores in desperation to buy 12 inch MacBooks, I’m sure Apple would not have stopped making them.
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iPhone SE (2016) When Apple discontinues the iPhone SE and now the 12-inch Macbook
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It is pretty funny that you automatically dismiss windows as a very versatile operating system. Just because your experience is horrible does not disqualify Windows as a de facto choice for power user and average user. Also, macOS is all a beautiful operating system until, it does not work.
Better than the Windows option - it doesn't work until, it does not work.
But the Candy Crush ads on the start menu are great.
There is a decent version of Windows 10, it's called LTSB and it cuts out all the crap that makes running a Windows machine like riding a covered wagon through maple syrup, but it's not available to consumers. The rest of Windows is just a bunch of stuff MSFT tried that doesn't work.
Is it any wonder MSFT never mentions Windows anymore?
We do have the mythical mini 5 as a reality tho...
But I feel your pain I like compact apple options even if I don’t always go for it
But I feel your pain I like compact apple options even if I don’t always go for it
Windows search almost never works
Every major Application I use leaks on Windows
The start menu is just trash
Cortana is a nuisance
The menuing is terrible (the OS can't decide whether to go with the Windows 7/Server 2K8 R2 menuing or the new, flat terrible menus)
Networking on Windows is still horrible - Windows doesn't tell you if there is a conflict on your network (macOS does)
The Registry is garbage which just balloons and shows everything down
The list goes on
Every major Application I use leaks on Windows
The start menu is just trash
Cortana is a nuisance
The menuing is terrible (the OS can't decide whether to go with the Windows 7/Server 2K8 R2 menuing or the new, flat terrible menus)
Networking on Windows is still horrible - Windows doesn't tell you if there is a conflict on your network (macOS does)
The Registry is garbage which just balloons and shows everything down
The list goes on
It means that more people than you think prefer larger screened devices, and therefore that's what they focus most of their effort on.
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While this is true, I suspect pooling a subscription to use windows 10 LTSB is not a crazy idea to begin with. I do realise not everyone wants to go this way though.
There is another alternative called windows 10 enterprise that can maintain best compatibility with apps and such while have option to remove craps out of Windows. But, same thing, not available for customers.
I have owned 6 to 7 Thinkpads and not a one needs service where a single MacBook needed multiple repairs and still failed to fix it’s numerous defects.
Maybe if you got out out of your Silicon Valley and visited the real world.
I’m pretty sure Apple knows far more about their global customer base than you do.
To those who think the SE is a niche product, how would you explain that they literally flew off the clearance website each time they were put there?
Small devices appeal to customers that care about quality more than quantity. It’s not about price. Apple’s share of the market in countries that are price sensitive is declining regardless of what devices they are building.
The SE was a huge success and had Apple kept updating its internals, it would have kept seeing success. It cannibalized a lot of high end phone sales when it was released and that is why Apple didn’t update it.
Small devices appeal to customers that care about quality more than quantity. It’s not about price. Apple’s share of the market in countries that are price sensitive is declining regardless of what devices they are building.
The SE was a huge success and had Apple kept updating its internals, it would have kept seeing success. It cannibalized a lot of high end phone sales when it was released and that is why Apple didn’t update it.
this type of response negates the need for a discussion forum in the first place. We're just talking about the shift in Apple's product design paradigm, how OP preferred the older paradigm. Nothing wrong in discussing this... No need to dismiss or get offended over it.
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that may be true, but the percentage of people preferring to spend $1000+ on a phone is also a minority, as evidenced by the sale breakdown between the XR/XS. But that doesn't mean the Xs is not worth developing.
To everyone saying he’s free to switch to windows I’m pretty sure he is aware that he is under no obligation to buy Apple products.
What I think he meant, and OP can correct me if I’m wrong, is that he would prefer if Apple stuck with some of the products that many people like instead of discontinuing them.
What I think he meant, and OP can correct me if I’m wrong, is that he would prefer if Apple stuck with some of the products that many people like instead of discontinuing them.
That's how I feel. I recently purchased a new 2017 MBP 13", had issues and returned if for the new 2019 version. Had issues with that one and returned it. Not sure what to do now. I don't trust Apple's current laptops. I need a new laptop, and the idea of buying an older more reliable Apple version is ridiculous to me especially since I can get a maxed out current generation PC for about the same price as the entry level Mac. So I am forced to look elsewhere.
I think the thing with Apple is they used to instill confidence. You knew if you had a problem you just go to one of the hundreds of Apple stores and get it fixed or replaced no problem. We can't say the same for the companies selling PC's, except for maybe a company like Dell with their in home service.
Nowadays you have to make an appointment at the Apple store and wait. The cost of repairs is high, the turn around times are getting longer, the cost of upgrades is high, and the price of new products are increasing. This has lead me to the conclusion that the price to value ratio is "Out of whack" as you say. The entry level products are disappearing and being replaced by more expensive "New products".
Sure we have all heard the "If you don't lie it go somewhere else" comments, but that is really an unfair solution. Many of us like Apple products, want Apple products, support Apple products, but if the only way to afford them is to compromise and buy an entry level computer with 128gb of storage, or to look for used or refurbished, this will eventually discourage people from trying so hard to stay in the "eco system".
If people think that paying more equals more design, more features, or more status, then it will only be a matter of time before people move on. Sure some diehards will always buy the latest iPhone, will spend $5,000 on a monitor and another $1000 for the stand, and if these people are enough to sustain Apple's huge cash reserves, then more power to them.
The way I look at it now is like this... I can't afford a Ferrari (Apple) and don't hate the people who can, they are just in another league and much wealthier than I am. As a result I will look at manufactures whose products I can afford (PC's). I am certainly not going to be one of those people who finance a high end laptop (Apple) or make payments to get a new phone every couple of years for all eternity just to be with the "In crowd". I'll live within my means.
The good thing is the PC market is starting to catch up with new designs, better materials, and fresh ideas, or has already caught up with Apple and their previously ground breaking designs. There is hope.
I'm considering upgrading from my 6S and was contemplating on the 7+, but holding the phone it just seems so gigantic. I like to go for jogs with my phone and I don't think I can handle the 7+ size.
Meanwhile, I saw my friend's SE the other day and it seemed grossly undersized.
So if you ask me, and I know it is subjective, I think the 6-8 size was perfect.
These are all personal opinions or based on your individual experience. I don't think it is fair for you to discourage people from looking past Apple for alternatives. For me Windows has worked pretty well. I have had just as many issues with Windows as I have had with MacOS.
Example: "Cortana is a nuisance". That comment could mean anything. For me Siri is very frustrating. I estimate she gets my requests wrong at least 50% of the time. When using CarPlay it's even worse. Lets be fair shall we?
I personally feel that people lapped up the devices because they were the cheapest out there. The fall in the price of the SE was astronomical. Here in India, it fell to half its price within a very short span of time and it quickly became an affordable option. It probably has the worst resale here. But the market could be very different in the US. I personally feel the 6-8 size was the sweet spot.
You’re NOT in the minority... the people that are obsessively guzzling the KoolAid ignore (deliberately) that with the release of the X iPhone models, Apple has also seen a significant reduction in unit sales and upgrades from within their customer base to the premium models - so much so that Apple has reactively stopped listing unit sales. Traditionally, year-over-year, Apple booked an increase of premium iPhone upgrades of 50%. Since the X models, they have seen a drop of 20%, including a significant increase in returns (of nearly 20%) from their carriers (a combination of no Home Button, and excessive pricing).
The iPhone SE form factor *will* return (unlike the 12” MacBook), as Apple is very aware how those have flown off their virtual shelves whenever they became available in the refurb store - and also how iPhone 8 and iPhone 7 have been the vast majority of iPhone sales during the past 2 years.
Now that Jony Ive has been fired, I mean retired, Apple can move forward on fixing their mistake that has held them back over the past few years - iPhone users are less sensitive to a high price, as long as iPhone delivers on the iPhone promise. iPhone X variants have failed in that respect, with a hodge-podge of compromises that have hurt usability as well as the brand’s visual branding.
I for example want Apple to make a thinner, lighter, and smaller foot print 15" Macbook Pro
Maybe they can reduce the bezels and speakers and just do something to make it more portable.
But now with the 16" coming out I'm not sure that's going to happen.
Maybe they can reduce the bezels and speakers and just do something to make it more portable.
But now with the 16" coming out I'm not sure that's going to happen.
Why do you care about thinner? I can see the benefit of lighter and smaller footprint.
The difference is, Cortana appears every time you hit the Windows button. Siri never gets in your way unless you summon it. Windows search by default is replaced with a god-awful Cortana interface.
I wouldn't know. I have Cortana and Siri both turned off. Problem solved.
Again making an issue out of something that can be easily corrected in both OS's seems to be counterproductive. I would prefer to learn how I could make using both OS's more fluent and productive.
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I've read the 16" will essentially be a 15" with smaller bezels thus increasing the screen size but not the footprint. I just hope it's a new physical design as well. Looking for something new and different.
Shouldn't have to disable something which is bad and broken. It just should stay out of the way.
Counterproductive is using Windows.