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What, do you people think when the CEO of a company dies it gives all it's employees pink slips and shutters it's doors? Come on, even if Steve Jobs were to die tomorrow, Apple would continue to exist, continue to develop the next generation of iPhone, and continue to be influenced be his legacy for years to come.

And the next generation of iPhone would continue to have an integrated battery.
 
What, do you people think when the CEO of a company dies it gives all it's employees pink slips and shutters it's doors? Come on, even if Steve Jobs were to die tomorrow, Apple would continue to exist, continue to develop the next generation of iPhone, and continue to be influenced be his legacy for years to come.

And the next generation of iPhone would continue to have an integrated battery.

calm down we don't need another GeneralP, we are just talking here...

I agree they don't shut theur doors but from the reading I have done the main reason there is an iPhone is Jobs. If he leaves (in any way retires or whatever) I wonder how long the iPhone project would continue along the path it is or if there would be a shift. Also patients arn't good forever.... and Blackberry has already come up with a decent (although I think Bug ridden) touchscreen alternative. The Pre is one as well... I just don't think that the iPhone will hold this dominance forever. It was certainly the fore runner. but Apple always has been. Then another company finds a cheaper and sometimes better way to do the same thing
 
Well, we've already seen Blackberry's and HTC's attempts. Were you impressed?


honeslty I havent gone hands on with any of them. The Palm Pre showed glimmers of hope, but I would rather see compair them all in a year. Let them work out their glitches. The iPhone was revolutionary, but had a lot of issues at forst too.
 
You know you would think that the exec's at Apple would pull their heads out of their ass's and add a removable battery.

1. They could sell spare batteries! $$$
2. They could sell spare battery chargers! $$$
3. They could sell spare battery doors! $$$
4. They could resolve a lot of bitching about "My Sim Door isn't Flush!" and hide the sim under the battery like 99% of other phones out there. (saves them $$$)
5. More people would take the iPhone seriously and less like the toy phone it is. (Selling more makes them $$$)
6. No one can honestly argue that adding a removable battery would add to the cost either. The Profit margin is already so high on the iPhone its not funny.
7. There is a HUGE difference between having a removable battery on your iPod vrs your iPhone. if your iPod dies... oh F.ing well... if your Phone dies, thats a different story. A businessman could loose a deal, a person may not be able to dial 911, If Apple wants to be taken seriously as a business Phone Provider they will eventually come around. Untill then you will never see major business's including the government using the iPhone.

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1. Apple already sales 'spare batteries', unfortunately you need tools to install them or you have to send the phone to Apple to have it installed, not always an option at the local coffee shoppe or @ 30k foot.
2. Apple already sales 'spare battery chargers' they are called Mac Books, iMacs, mac minis' or the '$50 dock that you can order from the :apple: store
3. Don't know what to say about the battery door, haven't lost one on a phone, RC device or remote in 30 years :confused:
4. Might need to talk to Palm about hiding the sim card under the battery while your at it. I've not had an issue with the sim card tray not fitting flush. If I did have an issue i'd take the 30 seconds out of my life and file it down with an emery board. But it would have to be really bad to go to that length.
5. That is your opinion, I'd say most if not all people take the iPhone serious. I don't know of to many 'toy' phones that cost $300-$500 w/contract.
6. Its easy to argue higher cost,
  1. redesign of the back case
  2. addition of user serviceable battery connectors
  3. Step 1 leads to possible redesign of docking stations, cases, etc al as the new iPhone is now 2mm thicker(example)
  4. IF they follow your suggestion of moving the sim under the battery, that results in a whole new PCB layout and a substantially thicker phone.
  5. The perception of 'profit' is based on what? The reports the parts only cost $150 off the shelf? What about the labour, and machinery needed to assembly those parts? Oh and don't forget the years~ developing the OS and phone it self.
7. Major corps use them. Some corps are piloting them to replace BB's with much success. They are used in the gov't world, just not as widely spread due to :apple: having a death grip on the apps end of the deal. Which is going to be the iPhone/iTouchs downfall in the Corp/Gov't word. We/They need to be able to write and distribute an app in a matters days/weeks, not do that then wait months for approval and not to everyone in the world.
/off troll box and put away the troll food
 
Why couldn't the back of the iphone slide off like the pre? Seems easy enough even if you kept the same battery style just have the back removable.
 
Or wider and longer, but that's just me.

I see a few problems with being longer.

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Unless I heard wrong, lithium batteries are due for a giant tech leap in the next few years, don't recall the exact breakthrough, but it's touted as vastly improving the power and charge capabilities of li batteries, I for one would prefer an integrated battery that can simply last all day with heavy use, as I'm sure most would be ok with. Until then, would be great if the incase slider didn't destroy 3g reception. :)
 
That's a more than 40% increase in thickness!

But it doesn't even have to be. No reason why the iphone can't have a removable battery and stay the same size. From the sizes below the phones are virtually identical. The extra length on the iphone could make up for the 1.7 mm thickness bump on the storm. You can clearly have a full touchscreen phone w/ removable battery. I hate the storm, but I am just proving that it is easily doable.

Blackberry Storm 9500

* Dimensions: 112.5 x 62.2 x 14 mm

Apple iPhone 3G

* Dimensions: 115.5 x 62.1 x 12.3 mm
 
But it doesn't even have to be. No reason why the iphone can't have a removable battery and stay the same size.

But that's not what you said. What you said is that the Pre's .67" thickness was "not much different" from the iPhone's .48". It is indisputable that you are wrong. The Pre, by your own data, is 40% thicker than the iPhone, and that is a very significant difference.
 
Jesus, get a battery pack instead of creating these dumb threads. It's an extra you still need to carry around so no difference..in fact, it's a better option than a removable battery.
 
But that's not what you said. What you said is that the Pre's .67" thickness was "not much different" from the iPhone's .48". It is indisputable that you are wrong. The Pre, by your own data, is 40% thicker than the iPhone, and that is a very significant difference.

Alright smart ass explain the blackberry storm size being identical down to a couple mm.
 
Alright [please] explain the blackberry storm size being identical down to a couple mm.

The Blackberry website says that the Storm is .55" in depth, compared to the iPhone's thickness of .48". That's a difference of almost 14.6%.

Additionally, the volume of the Storm is 5.97 cubic inches, compared to the iPhone's 5.18 cubic inches.
 
I have a 1200mha Juice Air and a 5400mha iWalk. I seriously doubt I'll ever need more. AND my iWalk can charge my Blackberry and my BT headset. Beat that.
 
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