Where does your loyalty come from?

[wrkactjob]

An Android phone with the build quality and 'feel' of the iPhone would tempt me away from Apple. At the moment I am seeing Samsung Galaxy S3 for near iPhone prices

http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/sim-free...edium=comparison&utm_campaign=google+products

but when you pick them up they feel cheap and tacky...

Playing with Jelly Bean Android OS is now quick and slick...

Will be looking at the Sony Xperia T closely when it's out.

 

[Dontazemebro]

Deeper than the stinking pile of fail Android is. Windows phone is revolutionary compared to Android.

 

[Southernboyj]

What's with all these android wankers needing to feel better about them selves by coming here. Were they not loved as children or something?

In the alternatives to iOS section?

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For me, I feel like Android is the better go to for mobile phones now. (Anything running below ICS I'd disagree with that statement though)
I still feel that Apples computers are the best and I feel like the *only* tablet that even comes close to the iPad is the Nexus 7. I'm still hoping for that iPad Mini. I'd buy it.

 

[profets]

Got news for you, ...the new Nokias are plastic too though they are polycarbonate but so is the GS3.





The iPhone has had the same front face since 2007 and it looks old next to some newer phones. The back looks nice but what do you look at the most? And it is behind technology wise.



One thing? I dont even know what Airplay is but there are several more things Android has had for years that the iPhone still doesnt or just got. You would think a company so "innovative" would'nt be last to have 4G or have facetime over a network. Last to get a bigger screen and only go 4" and only longer, not wider.

Oh well, better late than never but they are continuously late.

What exactly is it behind technology wise? NFC? Seriously, I use an iPhone and Nexus day to day, really don't see what's different tech wise. Minor difference in cpu and ram?

You don't know what Airplay is? Lol. Yes, that was just one thing, a single example I used, and an excellent one as well - considering a year later Samsung and HTC are trying to do the same and failing at it.

Bigger screen does not equate to better. It took nearly 2 years for android manufacturers to reach the same DPI level as the iPhone 4 had on screen.

So what are the "several more things" that Android has had for years that the iPhone doesn't have?

 

[racer1441]

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I have no idea who that is.

 

[MacManTexas56]

I have no idea who that is.

jennifer lawrence maybe?

 

[racer1441]

jennifer lawrence maybe?

? Still no idea.

 

[Southernboyj]

? Still no idea.

Go watch The Hunger Games, or use Google.

 

[cynics]

Go watch The Hunger Games, or use Google.

You mean Bing....lol

 

[cynics]

Deeper than the stinking pile of fail Android is. Windows phone is revolutionary compared to Android.

As a user of ios, android and win there is nothing windows can do android cannot. Hence the reason you are not answering the simple question asked.

Maybe you have some examples? Didn't think so, go troll some place else for an argument.

 

[nickchallis92]

What exactly is it behind technology wise? NFC? Seriously, I use an iPhone and Nexus day to day, really don't see what's different tech wise. Minor difference in cpu and ram?

You don't know what Airplay is? Lol. Yes, that was just one thing, a single example I used, and an excellent one as well - considering a year later Samsung and HTC are trying to do the same and failing at it.

Bigger screen does not equate to better. It took nearly 2 years for android manufacturers to reach the same DPI level as the iPhone 4 had on screen.

So what are the "several more things" that Android has had for years that the iPhone doesn't have?

That's only because apple insisted on using a stupidly small screen. Let's face it, everyone else was more than capable of getting a similar DPI, but knew customers wanted a larger screen

 

[cynics]

What exactly is it behind technology wise? NFC? Seriously, I use an iPhone and Nexus day to day, really don't see what's different tech wise. Minor difference in cpu and ram?

You don't know what Airplay is? Lol. Yes, that was just one thing, a single example I used, and an excellent one as well - considering a year later Samsung and HTC are trying to do the same and failing at it.

Bigger screen does not equate to better. It took nearly 2 years for android manufacturers to reach the same DPI level as the iPhone 4 had on screen.

So what are the "several more things" that Android has had for years that the iPhone doesn't have?

There are quite a few things from barometers to notification lights to external storage to USB hosting (by that I mean you can plug a mouse into an android phone/tablet and a curser pops up).

However the reason I'm posting is the PPI thing. The iPhone 4 was playing catch up with Android with PPI. The first Android phone (Htc dream) had a slightly higher ppi of 180 compared to its iPhone rival of the time. Android phones like the Motorola droid 1 had a 100 ppi MORE then the iPhone 3GS at the time. Then the iPhone 4 beat that about 9 months later and this will continue to happen, one hopping over the other.

 

[profets]

That's only because apple insisted on using a stupidly small screen. Let's face it, everyone else was more than capable of getting a similar DPI, but knew customers wanted a larger screen

Sure. Whatever excuse you can come up with.

Now Android manufacturers rely on making stupidly large screens that aren't even comfortable to hold and somehow believe its an advantage.

 

[Sedrick]

Being "loyal" to a corporation that produces "things" for you to lust after is very sad indeed. Loyalty is reserved for people and pets (except my cats, of course).

 

[cynics]

Sure. Whatever excuse you can come up with.

Now Android manufacturers rely on making stupidly large screens that aren't even comfortable to hold and somehow believe its an advantage.

Uhm it sound more like you are making up excuses. Uncomfortable to hold?!? Gimme a break.

Plus the droid 1 was out with the iPhone 3GS yet it had a larger display (only 3.7") with a higher PPI.

On top of that you are forgetting either A: the iPhone screen size is increasing to 4" or B: there are 4" screen Android phones. You assume the worse and all you can get is a 5"+ android phone.

 

[racer1441]

Go watch The Hunger Games, or use Google.

I don't own a tv, so that explains it.

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As a user of ios, android and win there is nothing windows can do android cannot. Hence the reason you are not answering the simple question asked.

Maybe you have some examples? Didn't think so, go troll some place else for an argument.

It's not features, it's use. iOS is nice and clean, windows phone is clean. Android is screwed up by manufacturers like Samsung, Motorola, and amazon, creating the pile of crap android as a platform is.

 

[McGiord]

Being "loyal" to a corporation that produces "things" for you to lust after is very sad indeed. Loyalty is reserved for people and pets (except my cats, of course).

Customer Loyalty has a different meaning than relationship loyalty. At the end people run corporations.

 

[VulchR]

First, I find the term 'fanboy' offensive. I am a fan, but I am not a boy. I presume female MR readers find it equally annoying. Also, my preference is not based on childish considerations.

Second, my preference for the iPhone and loyalty to Apple is based on literally decades of positive experiences with Apple products and less than positive experiences with non-Apple products. I have a PowerBook180 that still functions, and it is nearly 20 years old. I have not had a single 'dud' Apple product, whereas I have had computer equipment from other manufacturers literally erupt in smoke and flames (yes, flames). I find Apple's service to be top-notch, and on the rare occasions when I have needed help, the staff in Apple stores have been excellent (like when they helped out together the video memorial for my father's funeral service). I enjoy browsing for music in iTunes, and I find the selection of music and the 'Genius' feature help me find new music that I like. In short, if you think I have been drinking the Koolaid, then I would ask what part about my reasons you do not find rational. If you can't come up with anything, then put a sock in it with respect to the 'fanboy', 'Koolaid', and 'sheep' remarks. It's insulting.

Third, I personally do not find the alternatives to the iPhone very compelling right now. When my contract finishes on my current iPhone, my kid will get my hand-me-down 4S and I will evaluate which new phone I will buy. Most likely it will be an iPhone, but if it is, I will choose - as I always do - on the basis of rational decision-making.

Oh, and one more thing: For all of you who believe that the next iPhone is boring/not innovative/outdated etc., what are you going to say when the next generation of Android phones looks superficially like the current generation?

 

[MacBH928]

As you said...because it works.

With Apple products I know I dont have to spend half of my lifetime configuring stuff and setting up software. i dont have to research the internet to link one software to the other.

Apple forces developers to use certain guide lines to make you use your devices with a smile and in harmony. It gives me peace of mind.

Also with iphone I know there is dedicated support from users, Apple, and developers as the user base is so huge there will always an APP released for the iOS and will not be left out. Other platforms I am not so sure got as big of a library as the iOS platform.

I am not sure how far better Android(s3) or Nokia Lumia has come to be. I bet they are different but I dont think as you say, make the iPhone look un-innovative. We are not talking about blackberries here. its pretty on the edge of technology provided today

I am also willing to give Android and Nokia(wp8) a chance, but with each phone costing around $660 (no contract) you cant just keep buying phones to "test" which one seems better.

None the less, there are issues with iphone that I hate.

-iTunes store completely sucks I hate to use it. The credit card policy with your address having to match the address on the credit card and you have to have an American credit card to buy off the American iTunes store. so much hassle . Compare that to the buying experience from Amazon .

-iTunes app doing everything form playing music to syncing iPads . Bloated.

-Apple keyboard, I want the numbers on the first screen , not switch the virtual keyboard just to use the numbers.

Also I kind of hate the current GUI of iOS. Needs a change, refreshing .

other stuff exists like getting out of the app to the home screen just to launch another app.

 

[linkgx1]

I think people are simply fanboys and will stay loyal because it's 'their' team.. I find it so ironic and....quite simply, hypocritical to say 'feature x isn't needed' because it's on a non-Apple product but then is 'incredible' on an Apple product.

I think in a world of unlimited wants, but limited resources...we become very defensive because of the products we buy. Mustang v Camaro. GCN vs PS2. It's an ignorant mentality and doesn't let you 'enjoy' life.

 

[cynics]

I don't own a tv, so that explains it.

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It's not features, it's use. iOS is nice and clean, windows phone is clean. Android is screwed up by manufacturers like Samsung, Motorola, and amazon, creating the pile of crap android as a platform is.

How do you mean screwed up? Like touch wiz adding picture in picture thing or Motorola adding smart actions? All very useful stuff.

Unless you mean bloat that can't be deleted. But even then most iPhones of friends I use including mine have a dedicated home screen for things like the compass and newsstand. I have a folder named junk on my last home screen with news stand next too it. Opposite of clean.

The more I think about it the more clean android is. You can have completely blank home screens. All the apps on the home screens are actually shortcuts. The apps are actually in the app drawer. You can never have a less cluttered phone then an android on an iPhone without jail breaking.

Maybe you are talking about something else.

 

[linkgx1]

Here are my reasons:
-Ergonomics. Holding the android phones at the at&t store brought home a big point; they're too big for my hand. I can't even type one handed. The width of the iphone is perfect for me.
If the elongated design is accurate, this allows for a bigger screen but doesn't discriminate against those with smaller hands.

-Updates. My room mates don't jb and if they had an android they wouldn't root either. Yet, if you want ice cream sandwich or jellybean, you have to root many of the older android phones to get it because the carriers determine when you get the newest os. That's BS.

-Widgets. I jb my phone and if I wanted widgets I'd have installed them. Guess what? Not interested. Same for theming. I have better uses for my battery that doesn't involve wasting it on decorative things that aren't useful.
If you have a brain, it's not hard to jb. You can use the widgets and not subject us to this battery drainer.

-Ecosystem. Whether it's the accessories, apps or its exclusive compatibility with itunes, this is an overall experience.

-Google factor. I'm not interested in trusting everything to google. I feel they've forgotten about their motto, "don't be evil". Having one company hold all my information is something I'm not interested in.

Off topic: I want to know why the OP is talking about a device that hasn't even been released?
The op talked about the newly announced lumia. You have no idea if it's really going to be great. You're just going off the specs; that doesn't tell you about the phone's real world performance. You don't know if animations are going to be jerky or if the phone is going to lag.
It's no different than when people were degrading the ipad and saying the upcoming release of the rim playbook/hp tablet/samsung tablet/ms tablet was going to blow it out of the water.
Unless you're from the future, talk about a device that has actually been released; otherwise, it's just trolling.

I'm guessing you are NOT getting the iPhone 5 then.

 

[brettizzle]

I have not had a single Apple product fail me, maybe I'm fortunate but that is why I stick with them.

 

[eastercat]

If I was working, I might. Under normal circumstances, I wait for reviews before deciding to purchase the phone.
You simply assumed I would buy the phone based solely off previews. Well, it makes more of an ass out of you than me.

I'm guessing you are NOT getting the iPhone 5 then.

 

[linkgx1]

If I was working, I might. Under normal circumstances, I wait for reviews before deciding to purchase the phone.
You simply assumed I would buy the phone based solely off previews. Well, it makes more of an ass out of you than me.

No, thanks for assuming. I was actually referring to your comment that Android phones were 'too big' (them being in the 4'' range) and the new iPhone being in that very same range.