after seeing @Hooterville pics of the otterbox defender xt i ordered a new clear back and a used black back on amazon. i really like it. the material it is made of is my favorite. so soft and grippy. i usually like a slim case but this case looks and feels so good i don’t want to remove it. i’m using the black rim on the clear back. the black back looks good too. if my ocd gets bad i might use that later on. the best camera protection of any case i have. and the rim sits on top of my screen protector so i can’t see or feel the grooved edge. looks like it’s not there.