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ZombiePhysicist

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Meta/Oculus made a couple of lightly-interactive realtime 3D animated shorts. There have been others as well, but no full length movies.

Nope, the videos shot on AVP or the iPhone 15 Pro are just standard stereoscopic videos, like 3D movies.

Not sure you get my meaning. No avatar or Pixar movie is going to let you change your perspective and move about the scene, while the 180degree AVP shot movies give you some of that ability, if I understand it correctly. That said, my understanding might be wrong and there is no such 180 degree movement possible in the AVP shot video.
 

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Not sure you get my meaning. No avatar or Pixar movie is going to let you change your perspective and move about the scene, while the 180degree AVP shot movies give you some of that ability, if I understand it correctly. That said, my understanding might be wrong and there is no such 180 degree movement possible in the AVP shot video.

The AVP doesn't shoot 180° movies. There will be 180° video shot with high-end cameras for viewing in the AVP. You can rotate your head side to side and up and down to see more of the scene, but you won't be able to lean side to side to get a different perspective. It is still just a single video feed for each eye, just like "3D" movies at the cinema.
 

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The AVP doesn't shoot 180° movies. There will be 180° video shot with high-end cameras for viewing in the AVP. You can rotate your head side to side and up and down to see more of the scene, but you won't be able to lean side to side to get a different perspective. It is still just a single video feed for each eye, just like "3D" movies at the cinema.

I see. So neither The AVP photos nor video (nor the goggle mode on the iPhone 15) can do that roam around thing?

Interesting, if that’s so, and all it does is a little extra parallax, I wonder why reporters expressed that they felt like they were inside an intimate family scene? We’ve seen this level of movie fake 3D for decades, so I wonder why it seems to have been reported as to feel so much more intimate and “being there” experience than some Avatar 3D scene?
 

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I see. So neither The AVP photos nor video (nor the goggle mode on the iPhone 15) can do that roam around thing?

Interesting, if that’s so, and all it does is a little extra parallax,
What do you mean by "a little extra parallax"? Are you referring to the grater space between lenses on the Vision Pro compared to the iPhone 15 Pro?
I wonder why reporters expressed that they felt like they were inside an intimate family scene? We’ve seen this level of movie fake 3D for decades, so I wonder why it seems to have been reported as to feel so much more intimate and “being there” experience than some Avatar 3D scene?
It may have something to do with scale. Something like Avatar is displayed at a variety of screen sizes, while with a VR headset, you can show the scene at a natural scale. If you hold your head still, recorded "spatial" video should basically look as good/natural as the video passthrough does. (Well, at least for video filmed with the headset or a special camera rig. Spatial video from the iPhone 15 Pro won't have as much 3D depth)
 

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I have a huge # of 3D blu rays. Im not sure which of these got the itunes 3D treatment but the two movies that had an incredible 3D presence are:
Avatar (the first)
Tron Legacy

If either of those are on the VisionPro 3D list, see them. Man I sure wish Apple would let Apple TVs output 3D to 3D tvs.
 
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ZombiePhysicist

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What do you mean by "a little extra parallax"? Are you referring to the grater space between lenses on the Vision Pro compared to the iPhone 15 Pro?

No, what I mean is when you watch Avatar in 3D. You get to see very extra little when you move around the image/video. There isn't much extra content visible to you if you move 3' to the left or right of center, or tilt your head from left to right to see what is around a, eg, pole, in the the frame. You wont really see behind a telephone pole. Whereas with 180degree video, you could literally take a peek and see there was a, eg, mouse hidden behind the pole. So you get to see way more content with the way 180degree video is shot versus say Avatar.

My impression, which may be 100% wrong, is that the AVP photos/videos that people say are intimate, let them move around the shot more than say a traditional hollywood, eg, avatar, 3D movie. But perhaps not as much as a 180/360degree video. So you can see extra stuff, and move yourself through the scene more, and that was the reason the shots felt more intimate.

My overall point is for the traditional hollywood 3D movie like avatar, people dont ever report feeling like they are "there" and that it feels "intimate" but many people reported that with regard to the AVP shot photos and video. So I'm wondering if there isn't some technical reason for that, and if that technical reason, in part, stems AVP photo/video providing more 'hidden' content that you can maneuver about to explore, more like a 180degree video?

It may have something to do with scale. Something like Avatar is displayed at a variety of screen sizes, while with a VR headset, you can show the scene at a natural scale. If you hold your head still, recorded "spatial" video should basically look as good/natural as the video passthrough does. (Well, at least for video filmed with the headset or a special camera rig. Spatial video from the iPhone 15 Pro won't have as much 3D depth)

That is a good point. If the scale and PLACEMENT of yourself in the scene is more in scale with the scene, it may give you more of that 'intimate' 'there' feeling than watching avatar being a not 'natural' scale to yourself.
 

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I saw an article about Avatar and Titanic being re-encoded in 4K MV-HEVC. Does anybody know where these will be viewable? Will I be able to purchase them, or are they part of a subscription service like Disney+? I definitely want to check them out!
 

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I wish Apple would introduce flat screen tv's.
They have the technology to do it already.
Whatever they created would be attractive, and at least as good as LG, Sony, and Samsung.

I wonder if they will create 3D functions for iPhones? That would be interesting.
 
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Personally, I’m really excited for the movie watching experience on AVP and intrigued by some of the 3D content that will be available, which I’ve never really been a fan of in movie theaters, but willing to give another shot in AVP. In this Disney+ AVP app announcement this week, they mentioned a handful of movies that will be available in 3D on launch day in their app. I’m guessing that when iOS 17.3 drops this upcoming week, we’ll be able to see which of the iTunes Movie Store movies are available in 3D as well, in line with some of the leaked icons for 3D content.

Curious what’s on the top of people’s list to watch on a massive simulated screen in AVP. I might do one of the recent Star Wars movies or would love to see a recent action blockbuster like Dune available in 3D.
Me and Chris Walken will be watching Brainstorm because that's where Apple is head 50 years from now.

That and maybe Altered States
 
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