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All you had to do was explain what you believed was best and why, then to be even more helpful maybe give some links with product suggestions for the OP.
Solution was defined in a first post.
Informed consumers get a power strip with a 15 amp breaker. And properly earth a 'whole house' protector. If anything needs that protection, then everything needs protection. Using a protector that actually makes a low impedance connection to earth - for about $1 per protected appliance.
No protector does protection. Earth ground does the protection. That was never a belief. That is over 100 years of well proven science and experience.

Spec numbers and earth ground are never discussed in a wirecutter.com citation that is not based in science or experience.

What link describes earth ground? Does your earth have a model number? Earth ground (not a protector) defines protection.

When someone asks for peas, does he need links or a model number? 'Whole house' protectors are a commodity; like peas. Peas are selected using a specs - ie volume. 'Whole house' protector is selected using a spec number - ie at least 50,000 amps. Earth ground is defined by other numbers such as a low impedance (ie less than 10 foot) hardwire connection. Who needs a model number or link for a hardwire?

Effective protection is defines by spec numbers and commodities - such as a hardwire connection. One link says nothing useful about another 50 or 100 possible and well proven options. A protector is only as effective as THE most critical item - single point earth ground.
 
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Westom, I have no idea what you're actually suggesting in the context of this thread. How does earth ground help protect against transient spikes, over voltage, under voltage? Are you suggesting everyone needs to attach a ground strap to their Mac and tie that directly to proper earth ground? How about practical application of the theory you are obtusely trying to communicate here?

Power strips...I like real outlets mounted in a metal case.

For computers, I might use a power strip for laptop and printer but not desktop. Those get true sine wave line interactive UPS.
 
Westom, I have no idea what you're actually suggesting in the context of this thread. How does earth ground help protect against transient spikes, over voltage, under voltage? Are you suggesting everyone needs to attach a ground strap to their Mac and tie that directly to proper earth ground?
A point I made repeatedly. And that another repeatedly ignored.

Start with basic concepts. For example, undervoltage does not harm any electronics. As was required in international design standards long before PCs even existed. No protector claims to protect from nor has spec numbers that address under voltage. Undervoltage is a threat to motorized appliances - not electronics. So an AC utility provides sufficient voltage - or cuts off power to protect motorized appliances.

Undervoltage is only one of tens of possible anomalies. Each (harmonics, overvoltage, floating neutral, frequency variation, polarity reversal, etc) must be discussed separately and is addressed by completely different solutions. No magic box even addresses a majority.

So let's discuss destructive transients (not the single digit noise created by other appliances and so feared when hearsay ignores numbers). This mean remembering concepts originally introduced in elementary school science. And I am sorry. But reality cannot be explained in a sound byte or paragraph.

A surge current seeks earth ground. One conductive path to earth was a wooden church steeple. But wood was not conductive enough. 20,000 amps times a higher voltage in the steeple means energy destructively dissipated in that steeple.

How did Franklin stop damage? Did he 'block' or 'absorb' a surge? Of course not. Franklin simply diverted lightning to earth. His more conductive path meant 20,000 amps times near zero voltage - no energy. A surge harmlessly dissipated in earth.

That is structure protection. A surge far down the street means that surge also must be earthed - for appliance protection. Otherwise that surge is incoming to every household appliance.

Effective surge protection does that even for surges created by stray cars, utility switching, and street rodents. *Divert*. Will a power strip protector 'block' what three miles of sky could not? Of course not. Will its few hundred joules 'absorb' those hundreds of thousands of joules that three miles of sky could not absorb? Of course not. And yet that is what so many will claim such as wirecutter.com. That is what an adjacent protector must do - either 'block' or 'absorb' that energy.

Protection is never about earthing a Mac. Protection was always about earthing the transient. A current that connects to earth BEFORE entering does not go hunting for earth destructively via any appliances. This applies even to 4000 or 15,000 volt power lines falling onto local AC power distribution. Protection over 100 years ago was always about earthing the transient. Always.

Effective protectors are connecting devices to what harmlessly 'absorbs' hundreds of thousands of joules. Protection increases with increased separation between protector and appliances. Protection increased with every inch shorter that hardwire from protector to earth ground. (Word 'impedance' applies.) Protection is always about a current path to earth - either destructively inside or harmlessly outside. As Franklin demonstrated over 250 years ago. A solution always found in facilities that cannot have damage.

Do not earth a Mac. That only makes that Mac a best connection (destructively) to earth. Earth that transient before it gets anywhere near to a Mac.

How do near zero joule protectors 'absorb' hundreds of thousands of joules? Or even larger transient create by an AC utility? It clearly does not. They sell a $3 power strip with some ten cent protector parts for $25 or $100. Obscenely profitable. Knowing full well that most consumers do not even want to know what a protector does. Knowing full well that many naive consumers will recommend these near zero protectors without demanding any spec numbers. Need an example? View that wirecutter.com citation.

Protection has always been about how an electric current gets to earth. Munitions dumps pioneered superior earth ground such as Ufer grounds. Since a protector is only as effective as its earth ground. An example:
http://scott-inc.com/html/ufer.htm
Best protection for a home starts when footing are poured. How many learned any of this well proven science?

Protection from all types of surges is provided for free by a TV cable company and by the telco - as required by industry standards, safety code, etc long before any of us existed. Only incoming utility not required to provide that protection is AC mains.

However even AC utilities install your 'primary' protection layer. What defines every layer of protection? Only item that does protection. Earth ground for each layer defines each layer of protection. No protector defines protection. Protectors are only used when the connection to earth cannot be done better by a hardwire. Or foolishly installed by the naive who assume protector sounds like protection. So it must be same.

Franklin demonstrated this well understood and proven concept over 250 years ago. Protection is always about where hundreds of thousands of joules are harmlessly 'absorbed'. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground.

Want to discuss other anomalies. No problem. I was doing this stuff probably long before others here were born. But do not expect sound byte answers without numbers. Other anomalies are addressed by other completely different solutions.

Even the plug-in protector is completely different from a properly earthed 'whole house' protector.
 
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I'll use a well-reviewed surge protector, but I won't spend more than $20 or $40 for one. Seems to me it's better to just have (1) a decent personal property insurance, and (2) offsite backup. I think it's wiser to plan for what you will do when a disaster happens rather than spending too much time and resources trying to prevent acts of god.

Personal property insurance can be added to your homeowners or renters insurance, and adding $10k in low-deductible protection isn't prohibitively expensive, and it's useful for so much more than just lightning strikes. I've had personal property protection cover the cost of repairing an out-of-warranty Macbook that had the logic board just die one day. Likewise, offsite backup is useful for so much more as well, and can be very inexpensive.
 
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Those get true sine wave line interactive UPS.

This is the output from my 120 volt pure sine wave UPS. A 200 volt square wave with a spike of up to 270 volts. They did not lie. We all learned this in high school math. Square waves and spikes are nothing more than a sum of pure sine waves.

Meanwhile power that dirty is ideal for all electronics. But can be problematic to motorized appliances. Did they provide spec numbers that said "how pure"? Or just make some subjective claim? Honest answers always require spec numbers.
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I'll use a well-reviewed surge protector, but I won't spend more than $20 or $40 for one.
Best protection to even protect near zero plug-in protectors costs about $1 per protected appliance. It does not create other problems such as fire. And does not sometimes make appliance damage easier - another problem with plug-in protectors.

Price says little about protection. Spec numbers say everything. Best 'whole house' solution is required to even protect those near zero joule $20 and $40 protectors. Obtain something electrically equivalent to that $40 protector from Walmart for only $10. Or Monster sells an equivalent one for $85. Or get even less protection from a UPS selling for $hundreds. Never ignore spec numbers.
 
This is the output from my 120 volt pure sine wave UPS. A 200 volt square wave with a spike of up to 270 volts. They did not lie. We all learned this in high school math. Square waves and spikes are nothing more than a sum of pure sine waves.

Meanwhile power that dirty is ideal for all electronics. But can be problematic to motorized appliances. Did they provide spec numbers that said "how pure"? Or just make some subjective claim? Honest answers always require spec numbers.
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Best protection to even protect near zero plug-in protectors costs about $1 per protected appliance. It does not create other problems such as fire. And does not sometimes make appliance damage easier - another problem with plug-in protectors.

Price says little about protection. Spec numbers say everything. Best 'whole house' solution is required to even protect those near zero joule $20 and $40 protectors. Obtain something electrically equivalent to that $40 protector from Walmart for only $10. Or Monster sells an equivalent one for $85. Or get even less protection from a UPS selling for $hundreds. Never ignore spec numbers.

Well I'd suggest again that context is important. We are talking about electronic gear. Of course, when choosing a UPS you can reference reviews that test the manufacturer 's claims.

As far as surge protection, you seem to be conflating that with lightning arresors which use an air gap and offer no surge protection. If you're suggesting a whole house protector mounted at service entrance, I'd agree with you. If only I could more easily discern your suggested solution. Keep in mind, very many people don't own their building and are limited in what they can do.
 
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Well I'd suggest again that context is important. We are talking about electronic gear. Of course, when choosing a UPS you can reference reviews that test the manufacturer 's claims.
When discussing surge protection, then lightning is a classic example. Any appliance at risk from lightning is probably at risk from all other surges. Effective protection from lightning is essential even for protecting near zero joule, power strip protectors that can even create a structure fire (see APCs recent admission about maybe 15 million dangerous protectors).

Anyone can have proven 'whole house' protection. Even a landlord has no say over what you rent from the utility. A protector can even be installed behind the meter. So many options exist that almost nobody has any excuse for not installing proven protection from all types of surges - including direct lightning strikes.

Robust protection is already inside electronics. Electronics will routinely convert hundreds joules surges into rock stable, low DC voltages to safely power its semiconductors. Many power strips only claim to protect from that near zero surge. Not from typically destructive ones.

Informed consumers only need protect from surges that can overwhelm existing protection. That always means earthing - ie a 'whole house' protector. As was well understood over 100 years ago. Back then, a surge would otherwise enter the headset of telephone operators. Did they stop phone service when a thunderstorm threatened? Of course not. Surge protection meant then and still means today constant phone service during every thunderstorm. Effective protection is that well understood and routine.

Where is a UPS review that defines hardware protection? If it exists, then post what every engineer needs for knowledge - numbers. If any UPS does hardware protection, then specification numbers define it. How robust is typical UPS protection? A few hundred joules. To be any smaller, it must be zero joules. Since that number is just above zero, then many reviews call it 100% protection. Subjective, qualitative, or junk science reasoning.

Even near zero power strip protectors claim more protection than a UPS.

Need an example of a review promoted because it "tests manufacturer claims"? Try that embarrassing "wirecutter.com" review. Claims are subjective. It provides no electrical reasons. It only reviews ineffective protectors from companies of lesser integrity. It does not even discuss protectors found in every facility (office, factory, munition dump, home) that can not have damage. And it does not even answer the only question that defines protection. Where do hundreds of thousands of joules harmlessly dissipate?

Honest reviews are based in datasheets.

This is about all electronic gear including TV, stereo, refrigerator, GFCI, furnace, security system, LED bulbs, clocks, radios, dimmer switches, microwave oven, recharging electronics, air conditioner, computer, and THE most critical electronic item if a surge exists - smoke detector. Protection means all those and even the door bell are protected.

Best protection for all that remains a least expensive solution. A properly earthed 'whole house' solution. Effective protector is provided by companies of integrity including Intermatic, Square D, Ditek, Siemens, Polyphaser (an industry benchmark), Syscom, Leviton, ABB, Delta, Erico, General Electric, and Cutler-Hammer (Eaton). So common as to be sold in Lowes, Home Depot, or any electrical supply shop so that any informed homeowner can install one. Or rented from an electric utility.

But again, protection from destructive surges always means a low impedance connection to single point earth ground. As well as a 'primary' protection layer installed by an AC utility - that is too often compromised by copper thieves. In every case, a protector is only as effective as its earth ground. A UPS will not discuss this to protect sales. Where are UPS spec numbers that define hardware protection? Not found in any plug-in UPS. Otherwise I would see numbers that claim it.
 
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Turn down the volume all the way, or you'll have to hear horrible, horrible, annoying "music" for this important video:
You can thank me later:
 
Turn down the volume all the way, or you'll have to hear horrible, horrible, annoying "music" for this important
Interesting video, I wonder how many named brand surge protectors (I have APC) will perform vs. the Furman, and I wonder how well the lower non-rack type Furmans work. I'm not knocking that video, but it looks like its a high end, enterprise type product and nearly all consumer products would be using less expensive components.
 
Interesting video, I wonder how many named brand surge protectors (I have APC) will perform vs. the Furman, and I wonder how well the lower non-rack type Furmans work.
It is called magic or 'sleight of hand'. How many refrigerators, light bulbs, air conditioners, clocks, TVs, security systems, and dimmer switches survive that same test? None.

So how often does that anomaly exist? Never. A phrase 'strawman' applies.

Reality includes other parameters such as time. They need you to think subjectively to 'know' a product is superior. The informed know that honest answers always include hard numbers. How many appliances have suffered from that anomaly in the past hour or past ten years? Which numbers define a need for what protection?

Same applies to an assumption that APC, Belkin, Tripplite, Panamax, or Monster are high end products. Again, read numbers. How many joules does it claim to absorb. Add ten cent protector parts to a $3 power strip. Then sell it for $25 or $60. That is a high end product? No, that is a hyped product with near zero joules.

Why did APC recently admit that some 15 million APC products must be removing immediately to avert threats to human life? Why is that high end quality? What number says so?

Ignore subjective claims, 'magic' in videos, and recommendations from friends. Which anomaly is a concern? Which anomaly does that magic box actually protect from? Where are the always required numbers?

Nothing protects from everything. Best protection on an appliance is already inside each appliance. How often was every appliance damaged simultaneously by an anomaly in the past 20 years? What exactly does the Furman and APC actually protect from? That means specification numbers that Furman 'forgets' to provide. And some experience - such as a list of appliances that needed that protection in the past 30 years.
 
Why did APC recently admit that some 15 million APC products must be removing immediately to avert threats to human life? Why is that high end quality?
To be honest, I don't follow the news regarding power strips/surge protectors. Do you have any links regarding APC being removed?
 
Do you have any links regarding APC being removed?
https://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/2014/Schneider-Electric-Recalls-APC-Surge-Protectors/

Regular news reports fires created by these power strips. A recent example:
http://wsls.com/2016/04/29/deadly-house-fire-in-martinsville-under-investigation/

How often has your local news reported fires created by protectors?

http://www.esdjournal.com/techpapr/Pharr/INVESTIGATING SURGE SUPPRESSOR FIRES.doc

What 'subjective' calls high quality is also defined completely different by experience and specification numbers. Recommendation by friends is least reliable. Hearsay (not facts) is why so many 'know' APC is a quality product.

Power strip protector is such a high fire hazard that some cruise ships will confiscate it. But anyone can read specification numbers. What happens when its hundreds or a thousand joules tries to absorb a surge that is tens or hundreds of thousands of joules? That is a 'quality' product? Or a profit center?

Best power strip has no protector parts and that always required 15 amp circuit breaker. Best protection is provided by something much less expensive and located at a service entrance.
 
... as I mentioned, i've not kept up on this topic and so this all news to me.
This is old news even published in PC Magazine in articles (if I remember) in 1986 and 1987. But most ignore spec numbers; only learn from advertising and a resulting hearsay.
 
Had those cheap APC strips in an office where I worked. Any strip, with or without surge protection, designed like that should be avoided. Chances are the "outlets" are just stamped metal strips laid in the molded housing. Get enough current moving to generate some heat and things get dicey.
 
Hello, IKEA is selling a pair of power strips at $5.99.

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/70086401/

Is this good enough for expensive computer and TV systems? If not what specifications of power strip should I look into when buying one? Thanks.

I have an 8-way power strip with rocker switch..

I like the power boards that have their own dedicated on/off switch for each plug, but it did nothing when a surge came in.....
 
Thanks. How about this one?
Shape of a plug (ie two parallel rectangular prongs also called NEMA 5-15) defines it as 15 amp power strip. Spec only for one says that NEMA 5-15 receptacle can supply up to 15 amps.

No circuit breaker is apparent. No UL listing is apparent for either.
 
Shape of a plug (ie two parallel rectangular prongs also called NEMA 5-15) defines it as 15 amp power strip. Spec only for one says that NEMA 5-15 receptacle can supply up to 15 amps.

No circuit breaker is apparent. No UL listing is apparent for either.

Thanks. I shall look for one with 15amp "circuit breaker".
 
Went to several stores including Staples, BestBuy, Walmart, Costco and Home Depot. Still cannot find one that has the critical 15 amp breaker, is UL Listed, and has no surge protector parts listed. Any suggestion?
 
When discussing surge protection, then lightning is a classic example. Any appliance at risk from lightning is probably at risk from all other surges. Effective protection from lightning is essential even for protecting near zero joule, power strip protectors that can even create a structure fire (see APCs recent admission about maybe 15 million dangerous protectors).

Anyone can have proven 'whole house' protection. Even a landlord has no say over what you rent from the utility. A protector can even be installed behind the meter. So many options exist that almost nobody has any excuse for not installing proven protection from all types of surges - including direct lightning strikes.

Robust protection is already inside electronics. Electronics will routinely convert hundreds joules surges into rock stable, low DC voltages to safely power its semiconductors. Many power strips only claim to protect from that near zero surge. Not from typically destructive ones.

Informed consumers only need protect from surges that can overwhelm existing protection. That always means earthing - ie a 'whole house' protector. As was well understood over 100 years ago. Back then, a surge would otherwise enter the headset of telephone operators. Did they stop phone service when a thunderstorm threatened? Of course not. Surge protection meant then and still means today constant phone service during every thunderstorm. Effective protection is that well understood and routine.

Where is a UPS review that defines hardware protection? If it exists, then post what every engineer needs for knowledge - numbers. If any UPS does hardware protection, then specification numbers define it. How robust is typical UPS protection? A few hundred joules. To be any smaller, it must be zero joules. Since that number is just above zero, then many reviews call it 100% protection. Subjective, qualitative, or junk science reasoning.

Even near zero power strip protectors claim more protection than a UPS.

Need an example of a review promoted because it "tests manufacturer claims"? Try that embarrassing "wirecutter.com" review. Claims are subjective. It provides no electrical reasons. It only reviews ineffective protectors from companies of lesser integrity. It does not even discuss protectors found in every facility (office, factory, munition dump, home) that can not have damage. And it does not even answer the only question that defines protection. Where do hundreds of thousands of joules harmlessly dissipate?

Honest reviews are based in datasheets.

This is about all electronic gear including TV, stereo, refrigerator, GFCI, furnace, security system, LED bulbs, clocks, radios, dimmer switches, microwave oven, recharging electronics, air conditioner, computer, and THE most critical electronic item if a surge exists - smoke detector. Protection means all those and even the door bell are protected.

Best protection for all that remains a least expensive solution. A properly earthed 'whole house' solution. Effective protector is provided by companies of integrity including Intermatic, Square D, Ditek, Siemens, Polyphaser (an industry benchmark), Syscom, Leviton, ABB, Delta, Erico, General Electric, and Cutler-Hammer (Eaton). So common as to be sold in Lowes, Home Depot, or any electrical supply shop so that any informed homeowner can install one. Or rented from an electric utility.

But again, protection from destructive surges always means a low impedance connection to single point earth ground. As well as a 'primary' protection layer installed by an AC utility - that is too often compromised by copper thieves. In every case, a protector is only as effective as its earth ground. A UPS will not discuss this to protect sales. Where are UPS spec numbers that define hardware protection? Not found in any plug-in UPS. Otherwise I would see numbers that claim it.


maybe take a moment to breathe? we get it that there is good information buried in your waterfall of words but your harsh tone and clipped manner are all that is coming through. Some brevity would do wonders at bringing clarity. "copper thieves", what are we supposed to do with that?
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Went to several stores including Staples, BestBuy, Walmart, Costco and Home Depot. Still cannot find one that has the critical 15 amp breaker, is UL Listed, and has no surge protector parts listed. Any suggestion?

Tripp-Lite Isobar line
been a favorite of mine for years. heavy duty, I believe the entire line includes circiut breakers.
http://www.tripplite.com/products/surge-protectors~19?2029=Premium Isobar/
 
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