Who else is still using Aperture?

[mtbdudex]

Old thread alert, 1 year old thread brought back to life by someone ....

Hey, I started this thread, but did not bump it, and guess what good old Aperture still works fine for my daily workflow as well, so sticking with it.

Heck, I've got libraries for every Calendar year from 2004 - 2016 in aperture format, and still need to go back to them for various projects, so it's a good thing.

Right now I'm leading a 10 year celebration for our church priest, 2006 - 2016, so having those images organized by CY and folders labeled by date/event like I did when downloading does show how file management does pay off.

 

[CmdrLaForge]

I am still using Aperture myself. If Sierra breaks it I won't upgrade the OS.

 

[Crazy Badger]

It runs fine under macOS

 

[CmdrLaForge]

It runs fine under macOS

If so I will upgrade to macOS. No issues at all?

 

[Crazy Badger]

I've been using it since DP1 and not had any problems with Aperture at all. I think some have reported a few issues with specific functionality, but I can't be using it!

 

[Cheese&Apple]

Old thread alert, 1 year old thread brought back to life by someone ....

Old thread and old application...sounds appropriate to me.

 

[MrGIS]

I'm still using Aperture too. I really do plan on biting the bullet and switching, but I haven't found anything else that has that simplicity that I like so much about Aperture. It's not so great if you want to do heavy duty editing, but I'm not a fan of doing aggressive HDR toning and such.

My first attempt at switching to Lightroom went badly and I was going to try again, but then I heard that performance is dog slow with larger libraries in Lightroom. The last thing I want is to go through the headache of converting my entire set of libraries only to find them unsuable by virtue of speed.

I guess the good news is that every month, the Lightroom competitors keep getting better so maybe by the time, I have no choice, there'll finally be a suitable replacement.

I previously posted that Lightroom would be my future application. But once Apple cancelled books in Aperture, I explored my options again, and elected to go the Photos/McPhun plugin route, and I'm generally happy.

 

[btrach144]

I think I'm going to make the switch from Aperture to Apple's Photos after upgrading to Serria. Not a huge fan of Photos but LR is a train wreck, not to mention LR costs ~$10 a month. Totally not worth it.

 

[The Bad Guy]

I think I'm going to make the switch from Aperture to Apple's Photos after upgrading to Serria. Not a huge fan of Photos but LR is a train wreck, not to mention LR costs ~$10 a month. Totally not worth it.

Lightroom is a train wreck? How so?

 

[btrach144]

Lightroom is a train wreck? How so?

It doesn't make any sense. Maybe I was expecting a Aperture carbon copy but as someone who just shoots family photos, LR is a mess.

It took me over 1.5 hours of chatting with Adobe to convince them that I truly wanted to cancel my membership. I'll never pay for an Adobe product again for that reason alone. They're sharks!

 

[The Bad Guy]

It doesn't make any sense. Maybe I was expecting a Aperture carbon copy but as someone who just shoots family photos, LR is a mess.

It took me over 1.5 hours of chatting with Adobe to convince them that I truly wanted to cancel my membership. I'll never pay for an Adobe product again for that reason alone. They're sharks!

Right, so when you say Lightroom is a train wreck you actually mean you didn't know how to use it straight away and got frustrated. Gotcha.

But yes, for someone just shooting family photos it is a tad overkill I suppose.

 

[oakrrl]

Who, me? I'm still using an '08 MacBook Pro... I just like the way Aperture manages my Library.

Anyone using Aperture as a DAM and LR as an editor?

Swapped the 128 gig sad for a 256 and made a Fusion drive with the 750 HDD in the optical bay. Runs like a top.

Dale

I'm using Capture One (incredible images from its RAW converter), then export final image as JPEGS to Aperture, which I still use for my main DAM, and selected images to Photos, for convenient access on all my devices (iPhone, laptop, desktop and - gulp maybe - to might-yet-purchase iPad Pro)

 

[btrach144]

Right, so when you say Lightroom is a train wreck you actually mean you didn't know how to use it straight away and got frustrated. Gotcha.

But yes, for someone just shooting family photos it is a tad overkill I suppose.

I'm not the only one who feels this way. Pathetic that you feel the need to attack me for my opinion.

 

[The Bad Guy]

I'm not the only one who feels this way. Pathetic that you feel the need to attack me for my opinion.

I'm not attacking anyone and was merely after clarification. Prone to hyperbole much?

 

[btrach144]

I'm not attacking anyone and was merely after clarification. Prone to hyperbole much?

Its an opinion. Newsflash, it doesn't have to be factual or heaven forbid it doesn't align with your view.

 

[robgendreau]

Its an opinion. Newsflash, it doesn't have to be factual or heaven forbid it doesn't align with your view.

Not to be the Hall Monitor (well, some), but you did say "Lr is a trainwreck" and that it "doesn't make any sense" when I'm sure you know it isn't a trainwreck and in fact makes sense for an awful lot of users, more than any other photo management application. Maybe an opinion, true, but not quite as uncontroversial as saying "Lr doesn't make any sense for what I do."

I'd submit the subject of this thread, Aperture, was probably "a mess" for most who shoot for family photos when it came out.

But these days managing family photos is as complex as some business photo management I dealt with in the pre smartphone days. It's complex as all get out, and Photos, while seemingly easy, can also be a pain once you try to step out of the workflow Apple kinda locks you into. Apple's Photos is free, but if you use it as a frontend for iCloud Photo Library (which it's obviously designed for) that can get pricey.

And while $10/mo might be expensive for you for Lr, for many of us the inclusion of Photoshop (let alone raw editing on iOS) makes it a fantastic bargain. Sheesh, you can even use Lr and Bridge for free minus the Development and Maps module if you just wanna manage photos, for say use with Affinity Photo, or Macphun's excellent applications. And BTW Macphun is updating their HDR application, which actually does much more, and which works well with Photos. Well worth a trial. And some of the Mac bundle sellers are including some other Macphun applications so you can pick them up pretty cheap. Very nice to use and they produce good results.

Another option if you need to sync across devices is Mylio, which can sync to drives, Macs, iOS, Android, the cloud, and NAS. Free for a certain number of images and JPEGs.

 

[windowpain]

I'm still using aperture too.
No plans to change to something else (Lightroom or whatever), so if MacOS ever breaks it I guess I won't be upgrading.
Probably going to hold off on Seirra and iOS 10 anyway as there doesn't look (for my needs) to be a huge difference. My 2012 mini isn't getting updated anytime soon either until they release a reasonable alternative.

As for aperture, I like the interface, I know how it all works and it does what I need, can't believe (or maybe I can!) that Apple dropped it without a replacement.
Photos is a hell of a lot better than iPhoto (on iOS and Mac) but a very poor replacement for a professional/prosumer editing application.

Come on Apple get your stashed tax dollars to work and give us what we need!!

 

[DaveN]

I'm still on Aperture because it does what I need and photography is a hobby for me so a Lightroom subscription isn't worth it for me.

Now that Sierra is out I'd like to hear about Aperture's compatibility with Sierra. TIA

 

[OreoCookie]

I launched it after updating, it still works. But I really think I should migrate my photo library to another application this year.

 

[Precision Gem]

I use Aperture, and updated to Sierra about a week ago. So for so good, no issues. The only app I use that doesn't run is Quickbooks, but then this is something Quickbooks does every year, and forces you to rebuy the program each time Apple updates the OS.

 

[DaveN]

Thanks OC and PG. I too will probably move on by the end of next year. It sounds like a good project for a long winter night in a few months.

 

[OreoCookie]

Thanks OC and PG. I too will probably move on by the end of next year. It sounds like a good project for a long winter night in a few months.

Yeah. It is still running, but to be honest, I had forgotten to check for compatibility before updating. Uff. Then it immediately came back after 10.12 booted up for the first time

 

[CmdrLaForge]

Btw - does anybody know if it is possible to use somehow the new Photos app and Aperture on the same library together? I think the new memories feature and also meta data generation from the Sierra Photos app might be nice to try but not at the cost of duplicate libraries or a Aperture that doesn't work anymore.

 

[robgendreau]

Btw - does anybody know if it is possible to use somehow the new Photos app and Aperture on the same library together? I think the new memories feature and also meta data generation from the Sierra Photos app might be nice to try but not at the cost of duplicate libraries or a Aperture that doesn't work anymore.

The libraries are different. Photos doesn't even have some of the structural features of Aperture anyway.

You can reference the same image in both, but that doesn't help with sharing info FROM Photos. Aperture, Lr and other Big Boy applications let you write metadata to files, which is a way to share, but Photos doesn't do stuff like that, unfortunately. A possible workaround might be exporting, which could include maybe some metadata, but seems more work than it's worth. I couldn't even figure out a way to get out faces' info. Maybe some third party application like Mylio will be able to import it, but we'll see.

Meanwhile, meh. In trying it the capability isn't nearly as good as Google's. Google's search is amazing, and putting together stuff is almost scary in how well it works. But it's isolated to Google's online stuff; no way to easily integrate that back into Aperture or anything else. Maybe in the future. Flickr's is also better than Apple's, and it's easier IMHO to manage metadata there, but again you have the problem that it's virtually impossible to get added online metadata back to the desktop.

I've just reconciled myself to letting machine-generated organization/metainfo be separate and apart from what I add. Mine is more structured; kinda like my documents and other stuff. But I can still use search and the views in Photos, sorta like how one uses Spotlight independent of one's file structure.

 

[DaveN]

Yeah. It is still running, but to be honest, I had forgotten to check for compatibility before updating. Uff. Then it immediately came back after 10.12 booted up for the first time

Speaking of not checking... I've been having issues with my iMac so I'm doing a fresh install of OSX as restores from my time machine work for a couple of weeks and then freeze. I just looked at the minimum requirements and my Early iMac 2009 doesn't make the cutoff for MacOS Sierra. So it looks like I stop at 10.11.

Come on Apple, don't be so stingy and support iMacs older than seven years old.

/s