Its amazing guys like this will make dumb declarations, and when gets factually corrected, act indignant and victimized.
Your disagreement is not against other people. Its against objective truths.
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Your disagreement is not against other people. Its against objective truths.
It depends on your software version. I have 0 issues with the auto wipers. Occasionally I do need to press the spray nozzle button, but I do go to the car wash weekly since I have monthly wash plans on both my 3/Y.
Both my cars are on FSD beta versions (Y is on a latter OS, vs the 3). My 3 is on 11.4.7 beta, while the Y is on 11.4.4.
I agree, and not having manual switches for AC and such was and is the main reason for me not getting a Tesla…
I have auto wipers and most of the time I turn them off, on the stalk
It is one of the you have to live with it, to understand that you don't need it type things. I'm in my TMY 3 hours a day for my commute, in all kinds of weather (NY). With the current configuration, I do not miss a single physical button that I do not have. I never have to change the temperature, I do adjust the direction of the flow of the AC which is VERY easy, but other than that, I only use the right stalk to go in and out of gear and between FSD and out of FSD.
Teslas auto wiper is not good. But access to functionality is still the same.
Before, you press the end of the wiper stalk to initiate manual wipe and simultaneously bring up the digital wiper controls (so no menu hunting on the screen).
Now, theres a button dedicated to it on the steering wheel. So its actually even closer within reach.
Dirty windshield and sun hitting your windshield just right, it gets really old really quick having the wipers go off. lol. So I turn auto off.
I can appreciate, we’re just all creatures of habit, and mine for these kind of controls are over 40 years old…
My sone got a model 3 2 months or so ago, maybe if I get to drive it a bit I’ll change my mind, but no promises
I can appreciate, we’re just all creatures of habit, and mine for these kind of controls are over 40 years old…
My sone got a model 3 2 months or so ago, maybe if I get to drive it a bit I’ll change my mind, but no promises
To be honest, I'm not sure if a drive or two will change your mind about those buttonless features. The peppiness might, but it take some time to get it just right. You have to tweak and play to get everything setup, and make sure you do it in a cloud profile (which you wont have). Once it is setup I can walk into any Tesla that I have been given access to via the app, and all my settings come up. When I get a loaner, I get in the car, add my phone as a key, and my seat, mirrors, AC, and all customizable options, including GPS location history pops right up...
They made it seamless. When I make a change in my Y to the settings (seats and mirrors are stored by vehicle type, so 3 seating cloud memory is different than Y) it carries right over to the 3.
Once everything is set, THEN and only then, will the necessity of adjusting things disappear. It's the same with you car with buttons, most of the buttons, you use when you are getting things just right, then mostly don't touch again until someone else messes with it. But if these settings were cloud based, when you got back in they could all go back to you, based on your key (phone) just walking up to the car (other manufacturers have done this, but limited it to mirrors/seats, Tesla includes almost EVERY setting).
When my wife gets in either car to drive, the ac goes to her settings. When I get it, it goes to mine.
2023.26.8
It actually hasn't rained often here, but it seems like the auto wiper performance kinda degraded from the last 6 months or so. I don't care about autowipers that much, but it is mandatory on when using AP, which I use on long roadtrips.
....but then again, I recently discovered a small spider-crack on the windshield just in front of the front camera, so that might be exactly whats throwing the vision-based wiper off 🤪
I'm normally a physical-controls person, but the implementation in Tesla is so good the overall UX is better than any other car I've owned .
For HVAC, if you use auto climate controls, its completely seamless. The temp control for each zone is fixed on the screen - its always directly accessible at the same location on the screen (not hidden behind layers of menu) - and you can both tap or drag the controls.
If you use manual fan speed control, it USED to be a marginal hassle, because you'd have to FIRST tap the temperature icon, THEN on a pop-up you can tap the fan speed.
But in a later software update, they mapped the fan speed to the steering wheel scrolldial. So now I can control fan directly without even moving my hands off the wheel. So its now better than other cars where you need to reach for the centerstack.
The cool thing is theres legitimate positive changes in the car functionality that gets delivered through software. My only real complaint is no washer on the reversing camera, and no software can ever change that!
TMY - 2023.26.10 FSDb 11.4.4
TM3 - 2023.7.30 FSDb 11.4.7
There was a time when it wasn't as good with later versions, but I do not have any issues now with either, but it might be related to the beta software.
I would assume a crack in the window blocking the camera would affect the wipers, it will think it is constantly raining...
This would be nice. Not mandatory, but would be a nice touch.
Not personally, but plenty have on YouTube. Costs are quite high and leaves you with quite a niche vehicle.
I saw a kit car of a Shelby Cobra that was EV'ed. It wasn't like a modern EV that had a lot of range, but it was fast. This was years ago on my annual motorcycle trip to Maine.
EDIT: 21 kWh Battery. For reference my 2021 TMY has a 78.1 kWH battery. So, almost 4 times the battery in the TMY. So, range is probably 80 miles or so vs 330 miles in the TMY. But his weight savings...
My TMY with Acceleration Boost 0-60 is 4.1 and my TM3 with AB 0-60 is 3.7. His posted 0-60 is <3 seconds, impressive for a kit and home made EV.
EDIT: 21 kWh Battery. For reference my 2021 TMY has a 78.1 kWH battery. So, almost 4 times the battery in the TMY. So, range is probably 80 miles or so vs 330 miles in the TMY. But his weight savings...
My TMY with Acceleration Boost 0-60 is 4.1 and my TM3 with AB 0-60 is 3.7. His posted 0-60 is <3 seconds, impressive for a kit and home made EV.
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Shoot ! I forgot about kit cars.
The thought of an electrified caterham or dune-buggy just chilled my spine. Will probably never pull the trigger, I cannot in good conscience not wear a helmet and neck brace when using such dinky vehicules and that would be utterly impractical ...
That is a factory 5 cobra, so the owner dropped BIG money on it. That's even before the EV'izing of it... 0-60 < 3 seconds for a custom built car years ago (2018 maybe??) is madness. Factory 5 makes very high-end cobras, even so much that I know about them and have never done any research. Their chassis are capable of handling that much power...
Not yet, but it is on my to-do list, just got some other priorities first
But I've got the EV donor car ready for it (my wife's Polestar 2), so won't have to go buy expensive Tesla motors and batteries, which is where a fair chunk of the cost is together with fabrication. But my daughter is a good welder/fabricator. Whilst we have a VW Golf MK2 GTI and BMW E30 as well, I'm on the lookout for a 1980s Porsche 911 Targa SC shell…
I saw a kit car of a Shelby Cobra that was EV'ed. It wasn't like a modern EV that had a lot of range, but it was fast. This was years ago on my annual motorcycle trip to Maine.
EDIT: 21 kWh Battery. For reference my 2021 TMY has a 78.1 kWH battery. So, almost 4 times the battery in the TMY. So, range is probably 80 miles or so vs 330 miles in the TMY. But his weight savings...
My TMY with Acceleration Boost 0-60 is 4.1 and my TM3 with AB 0-60 is 3.7. His posted 0-60 is <3 seconds, impressive for a kit and home made EV.
Wow, that is badass!
What motivated my line of inquiry was seeing an extremely well priced Porsche 356 B ... Well that and my dislike for modern cars (I dread having to shop for another beater in due time).
The problem with all these conversions is if you want range, it takes a lot of batteries. If you want the batteries to last, you need a very advanced thermal maintenance system. All of which works best by designing the car around the battery. Not finding a way to get batteries/motors to work in an ICE designed shell.
This is why Tesla is still king. They started with a battery up design. Many of the historic car companies took existing ICE shells and made it work, but lose out on range, speed, efficiency, and/or increased vehicle cost.
Wasn't the original Tesla roadster a Lotus Elise refit ?
Anyways, I have a lot of respect for Tesla engineers and their overall innovation regarding building processes and product lifecycle design and that extended to Musk. Being in somewhat of a similar situation professionaly (although a few billions in equity and defense contracts short) I can only recognize the drive and dedication the dude brings. I just can't see myself associating myself with anything smelling Musky at the moment. I have no amity for the post-snl Elon , recent "fanbase" or newly beholden business alignments post twitter acquisition.
Anyways, as for the range I would only require it to go lakeside and may-be to the opera, trivial transportation (moreso given European cityscales).