Another classic form over function design mess. What's wrong with indicator stalks?
Another classic form over function design mess. What's wrong with indicator stalks?
Same. The interior is worse than the exterior.Unnecessarily different and confusing. The lack of physical buttons in a Tesla was one of the reasons it didn’t make our shortlist when getting an EV.
yep, it's something everyone in the world is used to ...Another classic form over function design mess. What's wrong with indicator stalks?
The orientation of the indicator storks isn’t country specific, but model specific. We used to have a Toyota pickup at work that was the wrong way round.yep, it's something everyone in the world is used to ...
though it's funny, I grew up in Germany and been to the UK quite a bit, but besides sitting on the right side of the car, driving on the left side, your clutch is/was in it's usual place, the indicator stalk etc ... then I went to Australia in the early 90s, rented a car, drive on the left side (no big deal), but, but, the indicator stalk was on the other side of the steering wheel, so the right hand side, and on the left hand side was the stalk for the wipers. I was there in Dec/Jan, so their summer, nd there were quite a few cars with their wipers running while the sky was blue
Yes, that is an Asian car manufacturer thing with the indicator stalk on the different side. Luckily, never the kind of cars I'd even consider buying, not even renting. Although I can see some logic in it as it could make it easier for one arm driving, a terrible habit, but I can see it can help.yep, it's something everyone in the world is used to ...
though it's funny, I grew up in Germany and been to the UK quite a bit, but besides sitting on the right side of the car, driving on the left side, your clutch is/was in it's usual place, the indicator stalk etc ... then I went to Australia in the early 90s, rented a car, drive on the left side (no big deal), but, but, the indicator stalk was on the other side of the steering wheel, so the right hand side, and on the left hand side was the stalk for the wipers. I was there in Dec/Jan, so their summer, nd there were quite a few cars with their wipers running while the sky was blue
Yes, that is an Asian car manufacturer thing with the indicator stalk on the different side. Luckily, never the kind of cars I'd even consider buying, not even renting. Although I can see some logic in it as it could make it easier for one arm driving, a terrible habit, but I can see it can help.
I'm not going to knock Tesla for it, though. I can see that with a lot of their other technology and assisted driving, it actually makes sense to do this in that context. It is very different from doing this on a less smart vehicle.
Very disappointing news. A very sad day for the environment.So the ban on the sales of new petrol and diesel cars will be delayed 5 years to 2035 here in the UK. I’m not at all surprised as we simply aren’t anywhere near ready for everybody to go fully electric. Allows those of us with EV’s to enjoy the benefits a bit longer than most I suppose.
I had read some rumblings about this move a few days ago - was this driven by industry lobbying or what? Can’t be politicians all by themselves, or?So the ban on the sales of new petrol and diesel cars will be delayed 5 years to 2035 here in the UK. I’m not at all surprised as we simply aren’t anywhere near ready for everybody to go fully electric. Allows those of us with EV’s to enjoy the benefits a bit longer than most I suppose.
Not industry lobbying as far as I can tell. Most of them have complained about the delay as they are investing and gearing up for the change.I had read some rumblings about this move a few days ago - was this driven by industry lobbying or what? Can’t be politicians all by themselves, or?
Very disappointing news. A very sad day for the environment.
I think the infrastructure is pretty good now. If you look at where it was 5 years ago, you could easily have it ready in 5 years.
In other news I got hit in the windscreen by a huge stone driving home. I can’t see a chip, so hopefully my i3 got away with it.
Very disappointing news. A very sad day for the environment.
I think the infrastructure is pretty good now. If you look at where it was 5 years ago, you could easily have it ready in 5 years.
I’ll look into it. I assume you had it professionally installed?I have Windshield Protection Film on both my TM3 and TMY. It was pricy, and does add slight waves to the view, but it is not bad. With the HUGE windshields on Tesla's, I wanted some protection. I have been hit with some large rocks, and the film so far as worked.
I’ll look into it. I assume you had it professionally installed?
I had read some rumblings about this move a few days ago - was this driven by industry lobbying or what? Can’t be politicians all by themselves, or?
You are making a huge, unwarranted assumption that we all want to use “FSD”.I think what you posted here is the most important thing. Tesla's do manage most things for you, and if you do use Autopilot/FSD it manages lane changes (including turning on and off the indicators), lights, and wipers. If the car didn't manage these things, you would end up spending all day digging through the menus, but in reality, you don't because they are managed for you.
I would say about 90% of my driving is under FSDb (Full Self Driving beta). I am in the NYC area, and commute into NYC and back every day.
well, your PM must think he's gonna make some friends with that move ... time will tell.No, the car industry is all in favour of 2030 and it’s a target they’ve been investing for and working towards for some years now. Ford have condemned the news. I’d imagine the sheer cost to the countries purse is what is making those at the top nervous. They live in hope zero emission fuel comes along to ease their burden perhaps.
More like they are desperately trying to appease voters that can’t afford an EV. For everyone of those he’ll lose one imo.No, the car industry is all in favour of 2030 and it’s a target they’ve been investing for and working towards for some years now. Ford have condemned the news. I’d imagine the sheer cost to the countries purse is what is making those at the top nervous. They live in hope zero emission fuel comes along to ease their burden perhaps.
More like they are desperately trying to appease voters that can’t afford an EV. For everyone of those he’ll lose one imo.
That is a fair point. If folks don't buy the vehicles because of the lack of stalks Tesla will revert and add them back, much like how they went back to a round steering wheel.You are making a huge, unwarranted assumption that we all want to use “FSD”.