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Other Who really gives a damn about the camera? - give us something else new please Apple!
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Thats not true a better photo which is then compressed is going to be better than a worse photo that is then compressed. If you're talking about straight up pixel peaking then yes you will be right but there's a lot more to a photo than that.
LiDAR will massively improve low light shots, as well as night time shots. You’ll also be getting ProRAW when it’s released, which should also make a big difference to editing and quality.
Easy answer. It's pretty much the only thing there's room for significant developments in each year. The rest of the technology has plateaued.
Apart from the notch thing you mentioned what else would you like to see?
As an aside I literally only ever see the notch mentioned as an issue on this forum. I don't think most regular consumers are bothered by it.
Apart from the notch thing you mentioned what else would you like to see?
As an aside I literally only ever see the notch mentioned as an issue on this forum. I don't think most regular consumers are bothered by it.
No tech has not plateaued.
You could make the notch and the bezels smaller, finally include a 120hz screen (which makes a huge difference, just try it), finally include usb C, include Starlink compatibility
- it’s not that people are “bothered” by the notch but it wouldstill be nice to get ride of it. People are also not bothered by 4G but 5G ist still nice to have.
You could make the notch and the bezels smaller, finally include a 120hz screen (which makes a huge difference, just try it), finally include usb C, include Starlink compatibility
- it’s not that people are “bothered” by the notch but it wouldstill be nice to get ride of it. People are also not bothered by 4G but 5G ist still nice to have.
No tech has not plateaued.
You could make the notch and the bezels smaller, finally include a 120hz screen (which makes a huge difference, just try it), finally include usb C, include Starlink compatibility
- it’s not that people are “bothered” by the notch but it wouldstill be nice to get ride of it. People are also not bothered by 4G but 5G ist still nice to have.
The 120Hz thing is ok I can't say i really notice it on my iPad pro but i appreciate it has its uses. I would take camera upgrades over the rest you mentioned for sure, that includes 5G. I'm still not sure what 5G is actually going to do for me that 4G doesn't already, how much faster do I need my phone to be?
No tech has not plateaued.
You could make the notch and the bezels smaller, finally include a 120hz screen (which makes a huge difference, just try it), finally include usb C, include Starlink compatibility
- it’s not that people are “bothered” by the notch but it wouldstill be nice to get ride of it. People are also not bothered by 4G but 5G ist still nice to have.
Apple is king at holding back features to release slowly to get people to buy new phones.
I’m sure Apple like any other company has product roadmaps and plans things out but the notion that they have hardware features ready to go yet purposely don’t ship them? That’s ridiculous. As ridiculous as those who say Apple purposely limits supply of products at launch to make demand seem greater than it is.
Guarantee you no one outside of the VERY ONLINE techies/gamers knows or cares about 120Hz.
I care about the camera upgrades but that’s because my wife and I take a lot of pictures of our kids. We can have a discussion about how much the incremental improvement is worth. As far as the focus on cameras in iPhones (focus....get it???) I think until new battery technology comes along we’ve sort of peaked on groundbreaking physical features. That’s just my opinion though.
I just dont understand this argument. If we have 'peaked' as you say, then why do we still have the notch and other phones dont? Notchless phones are extremely common now. To keep excusing Apple by saying we have peaked and the camera is the only thing that can be upgraded is again letting them off the hook and excusing them.
We need to stop doing that!
I disagree. I would say the majority of iPhone users love the camera and feel its important. Photos are extremely important to people and now that people use their smartphones as their only camera it is important for it to continue getting better. For me the camera is a top priority and a main reason I upgrade when I do. And while the cameras in todays premium phones are good there are still many improvements to come.
It’s not that at all. It often has to do with how one comes across with their tone. There are plenty here who see fault in Apple’s approach. But throughout this thread, you’ve taken issue with anyone not sharing your view, labeled them, yet gushed over anyone sharing your same opinion.
Saying that many people prefer the camera over anything else isnt flaming nor being a fanboy. I saw the wants you have. I don’t share those same wants. Doesn’t make either of us right or wrong. But I don’t go slamming others as fanboys simply because they don’t agree with my post.
I’m not excusing them. I just think we’re hampered by batteries for now. I guess getting rid of the notch would be nice but I can’t imagine any bigger case of excusing them than acting like removing the notch would be some groundbreaking innovation.
I think you touched upon a great point here. We live in a world where we're encouraged to be "ourselves" meaning embrace the differences that separate ourselves from others, yet when someone doesn't share a similar opinion, we can be quick to bash that opinion. I don't get it. Life's too short in my opinion. Sorry for the venting, end of sermon...
To those i labelled as a fan boy, it was simply because i was giving them facts and examples of the technology that is readily available to use but they refused to acknowledge it or labelled it as inferior, simply because Apple is not using it.
I’m in the camp that is personally disappointed that the Pro models are differentiated almost purely by photographic capabilities. I’m not a good picture or video taker so I know I would miss out on the camera improvements offered by the Pro.
However, Apple has targeted photography and videography as the key feature of the Pro model for the past 2 years because they clearly know that’s what customers are looking for and will sell the most Pro iPhones.
I would much prefer improvements in the form of reduced or eliminated notches, 4K resolution, 120hz refresh rates, greatly improved battery, Touch ID integrated into screen or sleep button, etc. However, I recognize that I’m in the minority of Apple’s customer base who is aware of and cares about these kinds of improvements.
So while I sit in total confusion over terms like aperture, LIDAR, telephoto, bigger pixels, optical zoom, and HDR, I know I’m in the minority and there are lots of people salivating over these specs that are meaningless to me.
However, Apple has targeted photography and videography as the key feature of the Pro model for the past 2 years because they clearly know that’s what customers are looking for and will sell the most Pro iPhones.
I would much prefer improvements in the form of reduced or eliminated notches, 4K resolution, 120hz refresh rates, greatly improved battery, Touch ID integrated into screen or sleep button, etc. However, I recognize that I’m in the minority of Apple’s customer base who is aware of and cares about these kinds of improvements.
So while I sit in total confusion over terms like aperture, LIDAR, telephoto, bigger pixels, optical zoom, and HDR, I know I’m in the minority and there are lots of people salivating over these specs that are meaningless to me.
Oh I read fine. I just found it funny how this had devolved into a few people going back and forth with "Thank you" and Amen" and "LOLYEAH" while they bashed every decision Apple has made with the last few phones. Yeah, we all get it. Apple moves at a snail's pace compared to other phone manufacturers. Yeah, Apple likes to take their time to do things their own way so it stands out from the crowd. I'm not justifying it but FFS why does there constantly have to be threads about it? "Apple dropped the ball!", "Apple is DOOOOOMED", "My Android from 2009 does this, why can't Apple?!?", and so on and so forth.
People continue to buy iPhones in droves because they're nice phones. Apple is also head and shoulders above everybody else when it comes to customer service. The ecosystem is second to none. If you have to vent about their lack of innovation, write Tim a letter instead of coming here and calling everybody who disagrees or doesn't mind the slow pace "fanbois" and "sheep".
I dunno about you but the battery on my 11 Pro was a massive improvement over my XS. What are we talking here? Days without charge?
BTW I have just gone through all my posts and up until post 118 all i did was try to answer peoples views with examples and facts. It was only at post 118 that someone took a pop at me that the tone changed. So please dont try to make out like i was the one starting agro. Thank you.
I may have quoted you, but there's a lot of things in that post that weren't directed at you. If you felt attacked, I apologize.
Yes...something like that. Camera, screen, speed etc have all improved a lot. I think battery improvements have been great but the focus has been on chip efficiency rather than battery performance too. Battery technology seems to have improved at a much much slower rate than everything else. There have been improvements in charging speeds but not how long a battery lasts for daily performance and not for lifespan before they need replacement. Where that has improved it’s the chip efficiency and software, not the battery, that’s accomplished that.
A lot of people upgrade their phone every few years, so while year on year the improvements might not be that fantastic, the improvements across three or four generations can be huge for upgraders!