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When ever a windows guy comes to these forums saying macs suck for gaming, we tell them no one buys a mac for gaming. Well if we don`t buy them for games and now we don`t buy them for work. What do we buy them for. I`m not sure anymore.

I need it for video editing and to be a ~8TB media server in the background, as well as performing other tasks that a lesser Mac could do just fine but not all at once and not simultaneously with being a whole-home server. Right now I'm using all external storage on an older iMac and it's not cutting the mustard anymore. (Basically I just postpone all my video projects). I've pushed that old beast as far as I dare, and she's done well for me, but it's time to make her into a network terminal and consign her to light duty from now until she quits.

I was all ready to go Pro in a big way with a new update and lean on that machine for years, upgrading the CPU and RAM as market conditions allowed and software marched along. I even cleaned off six grand on the ol' credit card to start out with. But now I'm not so sure. I mean, the $3800 model might not even be that bad IF it had TB and USB3 and a remotely recent graphics card. At this point the sticking point is overall value.
 
Not me. I've sitting here with my 3,1 (8-core, dual-proc 2.8), ready to buy a new Mac Pro today, and just in a state of disbelief that Apple really pulled this stunt. E tu, Apple?

But I don't know what the path forward is. The retina MBP can fulfill some of my tasks, but not my audio recording sessions. The hackintosh...you know, I left Windows because I was doing more work keeping my system running than I was being creative. I don't really want that again.
 
Hmm no I don't think I will.

I'll probably be looking into a 6-core Ivy Bridge Windows machine for now and simply upgrade my Macbook Pro for my Macintosh fix.

Then again I'm not really a "Pro" user. While I need a powerful machine for work I don't necessarily need a workstation. I was considering the Mac Pro because I didn't want to be limited by an iMac, and I wanted to run OSX.
 
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I might. My my pro croaked and my hackintosh has many minor annoyance (doesn't work with my audio interface, random kernel panics) it would be nice to have more stability.
 
Unfortunately I have to buy this prehistoric update. Corporate fund allocation for hardware expires this year and I need a new unit desperately. So it's this or wait until another budget approval and see if I can cope with watching a beach ball until I claw my eyes out.
 
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oh i've been there, i've been on a lot of sites, most of which all had faws regarding the motherboard, bluetooth not working/sleep not working/ yada yada yada

i need a reliable and stable system

@ma2ha3 i wouldn't call myself a computer noob, but you're talking chinese to me..

Regards,

Apple-Guy

The you really haven't looked at those sites..

The people with problems never looked for the right parts to begin with.
 
looks like I will be using this Hackintosh for alot longer but it works and is ready for 10.8 in July.

its as easy as buying the right parts and that information is very easy to come by.
 
The you really haven't looked at those sites..

The people with problems never looked for the right parts to begin with.

Actually man sometimes **** doesnt work. Even if you follow all their hardware and software guides you get to the end with a somewhat stable system with many annoyances. I love my hackintosh but to say what you just said shows your ignorance.
 
Actually man sometimes **** doesnt work. Even if you follow all their hardware and software guides you get to the end with a somewhat stable system with many annoyances. I love my hackintosh but to say what you just said shows your ignorance.

Mine worked perfect, until I decided to update to Lion. That didn't kill the system though, it just made Maya uninstallable. So the problem wasn't the Hackintosh, just the OS.
 
Nope, I'm not stupid enough to pay money for that.

Its a total joke, and shows Apple couldn't care less about its more serious users.

This is Apple saying " oh just buy an iMac! Its just as good! "

I'm sure someone will come along to justify Apple's INSANE logic.

I realize that it's not new, but at least they changed the price to something around what it's actually worth with all of its old components.
 
I realize that it's not new, but at least they changed the price to something around what it's actually worth with all of its old components.

It's worth about half the going price for the low end models and 3/4s the price for the high end.
 
I wish NO ONE would buy this fake NEW machine sending Apple a clear message - you didn't fool us Apple.

Besides any sucker that buys this machine will be PO'd when the real machine comes out in three months.

This is juts a tactic to get rid of thousands of old designed cabinets before they bring out the new design .
 
It's worth about half the going price for the low end models and 3/4s the price for the high end.

My bad then. I guess I shouldn't have assumed. So they're just screwing people a bit less than they were before then.
 
I had a personal budget of around $8k however after this release I won't be buying one.

My 2,1 mac pro (upgraded from 1,1) is really dying on me and I was hanging out for this update.

I think I'll be looking for a low end 4,1 and doing a processor upgrade to 5,1.
Throwing in a huge chunk of 3rd party RAM and an nvidia quadro (or other recommendation?).
I'll be using my current SSD boot drive and ATTO SAS RAID.

Too bad Apple, you were going to get a huge chunk of my money.

The worst part is, they are going to feel justified in reducing focus on the MP, because no-one will jump on these new models.

If they had released something close to (or better than) what we were expecting, a lot more people would be buying them straight away. But having said that it's obvious money that would have been invested into developing a truly new MP monster would not be worth the smaller amount of predicted sales these days.

It must have been of more financial benefit for them to invest $0 but still keep slightly fewer sales trickling in from those who still desperately need these machines.

I like how on the front page there is still rumor that they aren't abandoning altogether. Well the next release had better fit with their 'leapfrog' ethos, as Apple are embarrassingly far behind the competition at this stage!
 
Hackintoshes can do very well and often be solid through upgrades. I keep a clone partition though before any OS update and I've used that in the past - more than once. But, it can be quite good if you buy the "right" components.

That said, there isn't nearly as much support in the Mac-Pro-hackintosh as there is for iMac-level machines. Getting an i5 or i7 going -- nice. Getting a dual CPU rig going -- less nice. I have a 16-core Sandy Bridge E going here dual-booting Lion and Linux, but the OS X support isn't perfect. I've gotten lots going, sure - but under Linux it all works and runs faster.

It may well be that given this "update", a lot more attention gets directed at dual CPU hackintoshes to make reasonable updates. But, at the moment, turnkey 12-16 core rigs aren't there.
 
No.

as for the hackingtosh, been looking into it, a lot actually, but noted that every time there's a software update, your hardware will fail and you have to revert or buy a new part.. i do not want to go through that

It really depends. If you do your homework you can put together a system that will work just fine. I've had a hackintosh since Snow Leopard and have never had any problems with updates. Literally everything works and updates have been flawless. Even going from Snow Leopard to Lion.
 
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