iPad mini Whose retuning their iPad 6?

[Rafterman]

Just out of curiosity (i cannot see it) what exactly does the jelly scrolling effect hurt or stop you from doing?

It's more mental. People want their devices to be perfect in every way, and a defect, perceived or real, will bother them. A form of OCD. A little jelly, small bit of blooming, a wobbly button. Still works perfectly fine, but the small imperfections will bother people incredibly. Some people will r]exchange a device 4 or 5 times to get s "perfect" one.

People need to chill.

 

[sparksd]

Yeah thats what I'm saying though - I am not someone thats super picky about screen quality (which is why im not upgrading my 12PM to get promotion, I think the display is fantastic and can switch between it and my ipad pro without issue). However, the Mini 6 screen that I experienced was noticeably bad compared to other '60hz' screens in my life, even worse than the older ipad my mother uses. Something is definitely off about them, and the fact that so many people dont notice anything at all makes me wonder if theres some units out there (like mine) that are just really bad.

The problem is that we're talking about a subjective evaluation so all of these postings about the display being good or bad are individuals perceptions, mine included. There may indeed be differences between units but so far there is only some anecdotal "evidence" on this forum. To answer your question, there is certainly a possibility of quality differences, just no real proof at this point.

 

[ScanTheNavian]

Just out of curiosity (i cannot see it) what exactly does the jelly scrolling effect hurt or stop you from doing?

Using an app where I would read and study a lot in portrait mode. Everytime I'd scroll even a little there's the jelly with text tilting. I just can't be bothered with something like that on a device that expensive. Some people think it's just nitpicking/OCD, but I've read how some people even get headaches/nauseousness from it. Mind you, this is a device I wanted for many years and I would have been able to forgive pretty much anything, except for this. It still feels surreal that Apple chose this time to change the refresh orientation.

 

[TheKommunist]

Using an app where I would read and study a lot in portrait mode. Everytime I'd scroll even a little there's the jelly with text tilting. I just can't be bothered with something like that on a device that expensive. Some people think it's just nitpicking/OCD, but I've read how some people even get headaches/nauseousness from it. Mind you, this is a device I wanted for many years and I would have been able to forgive pretty much anything, except for this. It still feels surreal that Apple chose this time to change the refresh orientation.

It boggles my mind that people think we should be accepting compromises for a device thats this expensive. Ill never understand it.

 

[Realityck]

It's more mental. People want their devices to be perfect in every way, and a defect, perceived or real, will bother them. A form of OCD. A little jelly, small bit of blooming, a wobbly button. Still works perfectly fine, but the small imperfections will bother people incredibly. Some people will r]exchange a device 4 or 5 times to get s "perfect" one.

People need to chill.

Well I am readily using my Mini 6 all the time while some here complain about it being expensive now. Expensive is different to everyone, try buying a new perfect 14"/16" MBP instead of this fairly cheap iPad.

 

[sparksd]

It boggles my mind that people think we should be accepting compromises for a device thats this expensive. Ill never understand it.

If the display bothers you, don't buy it. If it doesn't bother you - like me - then it's not a compromise.

 

[tpfang56]

Just out of curiosity (i cannot see it) what exactly does the jelly scrolling effect hurt or stop you from doing?

For me, I do a ton of reading across various websites and wanted to read more on the kindle app. Maybe I’m extra sensitive to it, but the jelly scroll is strong enough that I can see it even while scrolling gradually. Most of the time I do fast/flick scrolling where it’s even more visible.

If I kept reading for too long, it would cause me eyestrain and gave me a little motion sickness—the same kind I get while trying to read in a moving car.

 

[bobcomer]

It's more mental. People want their devices to be perfect in every way, and a defect, perceived or real, will bother them. A form of OCD. A little jelly, small bit of blooming, a wobbly button. Still works perfectly fine, but the small imperfections will bother people incredibly. Some people will r]exchange a device 4 or 5 times to get s "perfect" one.

People need to chill.

That's a good way to put it. For Apple stuff, it's the notch for me, I can't stand it, I don't ever want to see a notch on a device again. And yes, I know it's OCD, but what can you do. I don't chill well. (That's also OCD talking)

While that saves me a few thousand dollars on a new MBP, I was kind of looking forward to it, but no way. I can take the jelly and really have to focus to see it anyway, and I can take the blooming, though I'd prefer an OLED, but notch, no!

 

[Rafterman]

That's a good way to put it. For Apple stuff, it's the notch for me, I can't stand it, I don't ever want to see a notch on a device again. And yes, I know it's OCD, but what can you do. I don't chill well. (That's also OCD talking)

While that saves me a few thousand dollars on a new MBP, I was kind of looking forward to it, but no way. I can take the jelly and really have to focus to see it anyway, and I can take the blooming, though I'd prefer an OLED, but notch, no!

Actually, I kinda got used to the notch. Not saying it's good, just...used to it.

 

[bobcomer]

Actually, I kinda got used to the notch. Not saying it's good, just...used to it.

Most people do I think. I'm not like most people in a lot of ways unfortunately.

 

[Shanghaichica]

For me, I do a ton of reading across various websites and wanted to read more on the kindle app. Maybe I’m extra sensitive to it, but the jelly scroll is strong enough that I can see it even while scrolling gradually. Most of the time I do fast/flick scrolling where it’s even more visible.

If I kept reading for too long, it would cause me eyestrain and gave me a little motion sickness—the same kind I get while trying to read in a moving car.

I’ve been reading on mine in landscape on the iBooks app. I didn’t like portrait mode for reading and it has nothing to do with Jelly scroll. Because:


A) I don’t see it
B) I never even scrolled once because I did not like the layout in portrait mode from the get go and didn’t read a single word in portrait. Landscape is ok. I do prefer my kindle though.

 

[tpfang56]

I’ve been reading on mine in landscape on the iBooks app. I didn’t like portrait mode for reading and it has nothing to do with Jelly scroll. Because:


A) I don’t see it
B) I never even scrolled once because I did not like the layout in portrait mode from the get go and didn’t read a single word in portrait. Landscape is ok. I do prefer my kindle though.

Hm, I don’t particularly favor reading in landscape for novels and fiction. Portrait mode ipad mini is exactly like a small book.

Maybe for PDFs or anything where you need more horizontal space, I’d use landscape.

Be happy you can’t see it cause it is truly obnoxious in portrait mode ?.

 

[Sheepish-Lord]

Is it possible that some models have a screen that's not as bad? I find it hard to believe that so many people dont notice the screen quality issues. I have an 11" ipad with pro motion and a 12 pro max, while I can immediately tell the difference in refresh rate its not like the screen on my 12PM is unusable, it looks perfectly smooth to me with no headache inducing jelly scroll or smearing in any orientation. I can switch between the two devices without any issues, though I can tell the screen on the ipad pro is smooth-er

On the flipside my Mini 6 which is set to be returned looked downright horrendous, but a poster above mentioned a different unit they got wasn't as bad. Makes me wonder if its my unit in particular that was really bad and if its worth gambling on buying models repeatedly until I find one with a display sourced from a different location.

While the Mini 6 screen isn't the best 60hz out there, comparing it to a OLED iPhone isn't the same as the reponse time on iPhones is enough to make 60hz extremely smooth vs the LCD iPads. Honestly, iPhones were the last thing that needed ProMotion and while the 120hz iPhones are noticeable to those with a keen eye, the 60hz are still some of the best.

 

[TheKommunist]

While the Mini 6 screen isn't the best 60hz out there, comparing it to a OLED iPhone isn't the same as the reponse time on iPhones is enough to make 60hz extremely smooth vs the LCD iPads. Honestly, iPhones were the last thing that needed ProMotion and while the 120hz iPhones are noticeable to those with a keen eye, the 60hz are still some of the best.

Yeah OLED probably makes 60hz on the iphone totally fine. However, I still maintain that the display used in the Mini 6 is noticeably worse than many other 60hz LCD devices I've used, and Apple certainly could have done much better with it even without introducing promotion or mini-LED for it. I think nobody would have minded at all if there was some jelly in landscape, but the decision to allow it to this degree in portrait mode is seriously questionable. I'm just really sad I can't have a mini for the near future :/

 

[ScanTheNavian]

B) I never even scrolled once because I did not like the layout in portrait mode from the get go and didn’t read a single word in portrait. Landscape is ok. I do prefer my kindle though.

May I ask what it is that you prefer with the dedicated ereader in comparison to the Mini?

 

[LibbyLA]

May I ask what it is that you prefer with the dedicated ereader in comparison to the Mini?

Smaller, lighter, no distractions, easier on the eyes (front lit, not back lit).

One of these days, I may try the Kindle app on my Mini 6, but I like both of my Kindle Oasis. I have the first (smaller) and second gen (first larger one) Oasis. I actually like the tiny size of the first gen but try to use the second gen more because it has white text on black for night reading that I don’t think the first gen has.

 

[Rafterman]

Smaller, lighter, no distractions, easier on the eyes (front lit, not back lit).

One of these days, I may try the Kindle app on my Mini 6, but I like both of my Kindle Oasis. I have the first (smaller) and second gen (first larger one) Oasis. I actually like the tiny size of the first gen but try to use the second gen more because it has white text on black for night reading that I don’t think the first gen has.

I like the Kindle peoducts, but personally, I value one device does it all. I'll take a slightly diminished performance for the covenience of only needing one device.

 

[ScanTheNavian]

Smaller, lighter, no distractions, easier on the eyes (front lit, not back lit).

One of these days, I may try the Kindle app on my Mini 6, but I like both of my Kindle Oasis. I have the first (smaller) and second gen (first larger one) Oasis. I actually like the tiny size of the first gen but try to use the second gen more because it has white text on black for night reading that I don’t think the first gen has.

The bolded ones are the reasons I'm getting a Kobo Sage. Hopefully it will be an overall nice experience, even if not as good as the Oasis. When it comes to maintaining focus over a longer time I think an ereader will be much better for me. I've tried enough times on other devices to realize how my mind works.

 

[Sheepish-Lord]

Update: as someone who returned a day 1 Mini 6 due to jelly scroll, I ordered another one from a retailer close by to see if a second one would be better. Now I know it's ultimately a hardware issue and maybe 15.1 did something (doubtful) but I swear this new one has less jellying. I was super sensitive to my first Mini as it was literal waves but this one is marginally better to the point you could almost overlook it. Does jelly still happen, yes, but if I were to quantify it my first Mini was a 9-10 on the jelly scale and this one is a 7-10 so definitely improved.

I'm not trying to start a conspiracy but this new one is definitely easier on the eyes.

 

[Shanghaichica]

May I ask what it is that you prefer with the dedicated ereader in comparison to the Mini?

It’s the screen. I find tablets and other backlit/oled and LCD displays give em a headache if I stare at them for too long. The kindle is front lit and more comfortable on the eyes. Also there’s less distractions on a kindle because basically the only thing you can do on them is read. On a tablet there are ways of getting distracted.

 

[sparksd]

It’s the screen. I find tablets and other backlit/oled and LCD displays give em a headache if I stare at them for too long. The kindle is front lit and more comfortable on the eyes. Also there’s less distractions on a kindle because basically the only thing you can do on them is read. On a tablet there are ways of getting distracted.

Interesting the different experiences people have. I've been reading a Kindle book for several hours today on the 2021 12.9 and have thoroughly enjoyed it. Gave the Oasis a try and had to set it aside.

 

[LibbyLA]

I like the Kindle peoducts, but personally, I value one device does it all. I'll take a slightly diminished performance for the covenience of only needing one device.

When we go to our camp, I carry my iPad Pro 11 2021, my Mini 6, a Kindle Oasis, and sometimes my Surface Go 2. On a longer trip (e.g., a week at Christmas), I may add the iPad Pro 2018 (one for drawing in Procreate, one for watching tutorial videos). And a basketful of power packs since we have no electricity unless we run a generato, although I usually manage to keep most things charged through the camper’s cigarette lighter adapter.

 

[LibbyLA]

The bolded ones are the reasons I'm getting a Kobo Sage. Hopefully it will be an overall nice experience, even if not as good as the Oasis. When it comes to maintaining focus over a longer time I think an ereader will be much better for me. I've tried enough times on other devices to realize how my mind works.

There are a lot of squirrels in my world and it does not help my concentration when several of them are on an iPad.

 

[Shanghaichica]

When we go to our camp, I carry my iPad Pro 11 2021, my Mini 6, a Kindle Oasis, and sometimes my Surface Go 2. On a longer trip (e.g., a week at Christmas), I may add the iPad Pro 2018 (one for drawing in Procreate, one for watching tutorial videos). And a basketful of power packs since we have no electricity unless we run a generato, although I usually manage to keep most things charged through the camper’s cigarette lighter adapter.

Are you planning on getting the new paperwhite. I’m thinking about it but I wouldn’t want to give up my oasis so then I’d have two kindles.

 

[Rafterman]

I was so satisfied with my Mini 6, I sold my iPad Pro 11.