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Why are Mac's so boring?
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I *loved* that very electronics kit! I made the most annoying noises on the planet with that thing.
Oh man, back in the day I used to have Over-clocking parties all the time. Not sure how I'm still alive today. I'll never forget that feeling of being at school all day thinking to myself "ohhh man, I caaaan't wait to get home and overclock my processor." I'm getting excited just thinking about it now.
Too bad I just have a boring old Mac now, but age takes its toll. Better to leave overclocking to the youngsters.
Too bad I just have a boring old Mac now, but age takes its toll. Better to leave overclocking to the youngsters.
You really think professional users (you know, people who get work done) are interested in overclocking? They want a stable machine, that's why they get a mac pro. Time is money, they don't have time to dick around with their computer. They can't afford to waste time to debug an unstable overclocked machine!
Are you 14? Go buy an alienware! It has leds! I am sure it's more fun!
Jesus!
Spend some time at your local TAFE, and learn about working with metals and plastics. Then you can build your own completely nuts Hackintosh case, rig it with liquid cooling and a refrigeration unit, and then overclock it to insanity.
It would take a lot of time and money, but it would be fun, no?
It would take a lot of time and money, but it would be fun, no?
http://m.wikihow.com/Overclock-a-PC
Not real sure why one would do this think about if for a few clock cycles.
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-overclock-Intel-CPUs/
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/overclocking/overclocking-intel-processors.html
Just a poor Intel marketing sham.
Xeon, overclocked ok, why?
Not real sure why one would do this think about if for a few clock cycles.
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-overclock-Intel-CPUs/
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/overclocking/overclocking-intel-processors.html
Just a poor Intel marketing sham.
Xeon, overclocked ok, why?
Because Tutor has DP systems that score over 40K on GeekBench..
I had a humble 2700K that scored higher than any single processor MP and some of the DP systems.
In the modern world OC'ing causes no instability but it's like anything else the more you know and read the better off you are.
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Indeed, the stress of a non-functional build can be avoided by doing proper prior planning. But it's worth noting that you still spent a month working on building a computer, without having said computer to get work done with. Which, like in my original post, is fun for some people. So your prior planning method is very valid for the OP's complaint about not enough fun if he enjoys that sort of research - but it's still not a market Apple is aiming for. I didn't mean to imply that ALL DIY builds are prone to glitches.
You assume that he didn't have a computer to do work with at a productive level, thats probably not the best assumption.
I charge 60 euro an hour to build computers and install software, very few builds run over 120 euro.
When I built my HMWWV I bought the parts at lunch started when I got home from work and had it ready to go and my MP on Ebay by 7PM. Thats running OSX, and restored from my MP's backup.
I'm not Apples target market, but there many of us who do this.
I think it's quite reasonable to assume that somebody who says they want a "fun" computer wants it to actually, you know, compute, in addition to being a fun build/tweak experience. It's quite possible the OP would enjoy the process of doing a DIY PC build, overclocking the CPU, then putting the PC in a closet, never to be powered on again. It's quite possible the OP would enjoy the process of doing a DUY PC build, overclocking the CPU, then selling resulting machine for cost plus labor. But given the post as-is, I think it's very reasonable to assume the OP wants to actually use the machine as well.
That's great. I'm happy for you. I'm glad you recognize which market Apple is targeting, and that you're able to exploit the market segment they aren't focusing on. Perhaps the OP could follow your lead, if that's what he enjoys doing too.
(By the way, what's a HMWWV in this context? Did you mean HMMWV? In military circles, AFAIK the HMMWV is the High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle, aka the Humvee. Are you saying you installed OSX on a military vehicle as a replacement for a MacPro? Kinda the ultimate in mobile computing I guess.
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I think it's quite reasonable to assume that somebody who says they want a "fun" computer wants it to actually, you know, compute, in addition to being a fun build/tweak experience. It's quite possible the OP would enjoy the process of doing a DIY PC build, overclocking the CPU, then putting the PC in a closet, never to be powered on again. It's quite possible the OP would enjoy the process of doing a DUY PC build, overclocking the CPU, then selling resulting machine for cost plus labor. But given the post as-is, I think it's very reasonable to assume the OP wants to actually use the machine as well.
That's great. I'm happy for you. I'm glad you recognize which market Apple is targeting, and that you're able to exploit the market segment they aren't focusing on. Perhaps the OP could follow your lead, if that's what he enjoys doing too.
(By the way, what's a HMWWV in this context? Did you mean HMMWV? In military circles, AFAIK the HMMWV is the High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle, aka the Humvee. Are you saying you installed OSX on a military vehicle as a replacement for a MacPro? Kinda the ultimate in mobile computing I guess.
"but it's worth noting that you still spent a month working on building a computer, without having said computer to get work done with"
Here's your quote. I 'll bet he did have a computer to get work done with. People don't integrate new Mac's until they're sure they'll run all the software needed without bugs so spending a month planning and building a computer really isn't a big deal.
Being that the context of this board is computers what do you think HMMWV stands for? Did you happen to click on my profile to see who I work for or did you just ask the question with a bit of wiki?
People have different mindsets. This is nothing new.
Some people enjoy working in their garage, on the floor, underneath a classic car. They'll tinker, lovingly, on a car they personally restored piece by piece. The car IS the project.
Other people don't ever want to even see an oily rag. They hop in the car and drive off to wherever they are going. Service? Maintenance? That's what a mechanic is for. The car is just a tool to get the real work done.
Neither guy is wrong or right. They're just different.
I've built several PCs, part by part. I think I was even one of those guys who overclocked the Celeron from 300 MHz to 450 MHz (there was one particular batch that was notoriously stable). Did I have fun? Yes. Would I do it again? No.
Some people enjoy working in their garage, on the floor, underneath a classic car. They'll tinker, lovingly, on a car they personally restored piece by piece. The car IS the project.
Other people don't ever want to even see an oily rag. They hop in the car and drive off to wherever they are going. Service? Maintenance? That's what a mechanic is for. The car is just a tool to get the real work done.
Neither guy is wrong or right. They're just different.
I've built several PCs, part by part. I think I was even one of those guys who overclocked the Celeron from 300 MHz to 450 MHz (there was one particular batch that was notoriously stable). Did I have fun? Yes. Would I do it again? No.
I have a Jeep that requires much time and love
Every time I see someone drive by in a Wrangler, I think to myself "man, that looks like fun!"
followed by "... but that's just not practical for my needs".
Every time I see someone drive by in a Wrangler, I think to myself "man, that looks like fun!"
Wranglers are not practical but .
I just took my daughter and her two friends and bags to an amusement park Sunday Thats about as close to practical as you're going to get.
I think if I got rid of my Jeep my daughter would get rid of me, she loves it as much as I do.
Urgh, I had one of those when I was little! That's a trip down memory lane, thanks dude. My Dad was an electrician so he bought me one to help me 'follow in his footsteps'.
I remember half of the time with that thing I had no idea what I was doing. There was an instruction manual, sure, but there's only so much fun a hyperactive child can have with making an LED display count upwards. Nonetheless, I painstakingly completed the whole manual, and when I was finished, I realised I knew nothing more than I did before about electronics.
So I decided to improvise some circuits. "How hard could it be?", I asked myself, confidently. Suffice it to say, with my distinct lack of knowledge, it wasn't long until smoke started bellowing from one of the springs. I got scared, pulled the plug on everything, locked it in my cupboard and never used it again.
I'm glad I didn't grow up to be an electrician.
Hahaha! That pretty much mirrors my experience too. The instructions were all based on spring terminal numbers: connect 1-31-67-69-71. They didn't do a whole lot of explaining about why you were setting up the connections. (Although I do remember learning the circuit pattern for astable and bistable multivibrators -- not terribly useful for a 12-year-old...) And I too burned up a few of the LEDs because nobody said anything about current limiting resistors.
Oh well... definitely my most fun toy when I was a kid though!
You've definitely put a smile on my face when reading over that. It certainly was a simpler/better time, huh?
Well, as the old saying goes nostalgia's not what it used to be.