Why are we so limited??

[Shirasaki]

if you dont have wifi available that's your problem.

So? Why "don't have wifi" should be punished? And, there are cases when you need to update your game because developer does not allow you to use old version of game. Some other apps will do the same.

 

[Lappen71]

I have tos ask. Is it expensive to get internet connection in USA and is it limited?

 

[44267547]

I have tos ask. Is it expensive to get internet connection in USA and is it limited?

It Depends on what internet speeds you want or require that could be more costly. There are various tiers to choose from, but it's all based on your Internet Service Provider.

 

[Lappen71]

It Depends on what internet speeds you want or require that could be more costly. There are various tiers to choose from, but it's all based on your Internet Service Provider.

Give a example

 

[zone23]

I have tos ask. Is it expensive to get internet connection in USA and is it limited?

$64.95/Month I get 100mb down and 400GB/Month. I have to watch cause I can actually use all 400GB then I have to pay 20$ for another 50GB.

 

[Lappen71]

$64.95/Month I get 100mb down and 400GB/Month. I have to watch cause I can actually use all 400GB then I have to pay 20$ for another 50GB.

Wow thats just crazy
I have fiber connection 100/100Mbit with no download limit and for that i pay 39$
But I live in a (not sure if the translation is correct) tenant-owned apartment and they pay that bill so in practice its free

 

[Lloydbm41]

I have tos ask. Is it expensive to get internet connection in USA and is it limited?

Do to the vast size of the U.S., there are many places that are just to rural to get quality internet. And what they can get is very expensive. Cell service is their best bet.

 

[Lappen71]

Do to the vast size of the U.S., there are many places that are just to rural to get quality internet. And what they can get is very expensive. Cell service is their best bet.

I´m starting to understand that. In Sweden we have totally different infrastructure.
Exactly 20 years ago I got my first internet connection and it was ADSL

 

[44267547]

Give a example

@zone23 already did. There is your example. Ask nicely next time, after I already answered your first post with questions.

 

[Lloydbm41]

I´m starting to understand that. In Sweden we have totally different infrastructure.
Exactly 20 years ago I got my first internet connection and it was ADSL

I lived in Europe a couple of times and you realize just how 'close' everything really is. The infrastructure for sewer, roads, electric, etc... has been laid for generations. For the most part, Europe is densely packed and everyone has equal access to home internet and cellular service.
There are still US States that may have 1 to 2 people in a 100 square kilometre area. States like North and South Dakota, Wyoming, Idaho, Nebraska, and so forth. The cost to bring internet to these sparsely populated areas just isn't worth it for most telecoms.
So there are a couple million people in the US alone, that are basically screwed by Apples policy. Doesn't seem fair when all Apple has to do is add a feature in settings that allows people to download large apps. It could be off by default and request users consent every time. This would prevent Apple from responsibility.

 

[9058456]

Every time I look at my stock phone, I wanna puke. Every time I try and download something from the app store and it tells me it's over 100MB can't get it without wifi, I wanna puke. Why is Apple so far behind with the limitations of the features people want/need?

Need!? People need these features this is what people need? My God you all seriously need to get out of your own asses

 

[Lappen71]

@zone23 akready did. There is your example. Ask nicely next time, after I already answered your first post with questions.

Ask nicely? I will ask you nothing in the future because you are rude and you didn't answer ****.
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I lived in Europe a couple of times and you realize just how 'close' everything really is. The infrastructure for sewer, roads, electric, etc... has been laid for generations. For the most part, Europe is densely packed and everyone has equal access to home internet and cellular service.
There are still US States that may have 1 to 2 people in a 100 square kilometre area. States like North and South Dakota, Wyoming, Idaho, Nebraska, and so forth. The cost to bring internet to these sparsely populated areas just isn't worth it for most telecoms.
So there are a couple million people in the US alone, that are basically screwed by Apples policy. Doesn't seem fair when all Apple has to do is add a feature in settings that allows people to download large apps. It could be off by default and request users consent every time. This would prevent Apple from responsibility.

I´m in the impression that Apple is helping you poor bastard that don't have proper internet connection.
I dont understand the problem really. Its easy to setup a mobile connection with a Wi-Fi router.

You are wrong that everybody in Europe is densely packed and have equal access to internet and cellular connection.
I can't speak for all the countries I only know how its here in Sweden and one of the reason that we have god internet infrastructure. Is because 20 years ago the government subsidizes the prize when you bought a computer.
And then the telecom companies started to build ADSL internet through the telephone lines.

I´m realizing that I´m fortunate to live in a developing country

 

[Lloydbm41]

Ask nicely? I will ask you nothing in the future because you are rude and you didn't answer ****.
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I´m in the impression that Apple is helping you poor bastard that don't have proper internet connection.
I dont understand the problem really. Its easy to setup a mobile connection with a Wi-Fi router.

You are wrong that everybody in Europe is densely packed and have equal access to internet and cellular connection.
I can't speak for all the countries I only know how its here in Sweden and one of the reason that we have god internet infrastructure. Is because 20 years ago the government subsidizes the prize when you bought a computer.
And then the telecom companies started to build ADSL internet through the telephone lines.

I´m realizing that I´m fortunate to live in a developing country

I never said I had internet issues. I get nearly 500mbps download speeds on my wifi internet at home, with cable TV for $80 or roughly €65 per month.
I'm simply saying there are a lot of people in the US that live in such rural areas that wifi capability is either non-existent or cost prohibitive.
As for you theory on using a cell connection with a wifi router, that also doesn't work, as tethering connections is limited with all mobile networks. Again, cost prohibitive issue as well.

I also didn't say 'everyone' in Europe has equal access to wifi and cellular. I said 'nearly' everyone. And this is comparative to the US.

P.S. The US also utilized ADSL in telephone lines 20 years ago in States like California. Before fiber optic lines started to be utilized. But Sweden is tiny compared to the entire US, so ADSL wasn't added everywhere in our country.

 

[AppleFanatic10]

$64.95/Month I get 100mb down and 400GB/Month. I have to watch cause I can actually use all 400GB then I have to pay 20$ for another 50GB.

I'm just curious... how does someone use 400gb a month? I can barely use the 24gb I have.

 

[braddick]

At least the OP didn't state he was literally puking as that would be figuratively lighting the world on fire.

 

[Lappen71]

I never said I had internet issues. I get nearly 500mbps download speeds on my wifi internet at home, with cable TV for $80 or roughly €65 per month.
I'm simply saying there are a lot of people in the US that live in such rural areas that wifi capability is either non-existent or cost prohibitive.
As for you theory on using a cell connection with a wifi router, that also doesn't work, as tethering connections is limited with all mobile networks. Again, cost prohibitive issue as well.

I also didn't say 'everyone' in Europe has equal access to wifi and cellular. I said 'nearly' everyone. And this is comparative to the US.

P.S. The US also utilized ADSL in telephone lines 20 years ago in States like California. Before fiber optic lines started to be utilized. But Sweden is tiny compared to the entire US, so ADSL wasn't added everywhere in our country.

And I never said you have but you complained that other have.

I don't understand why you repeat about wi-fi capability because thats not the issue.
The issue is bad infrastructure for mobile and fiber connection to then setup wi-fi at home.
Telephone companies in USA seems to be greedy and charge very high prizes.
The facts it that you pay double compare what i do and I don't have any limit on how much I download.

Of course many people in Sweden also only today have ADSL connection because of remote location.
But the government is subsidizing to build fiber connection. Does the government in USA do that?
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I'm just curious... how does someone use 400gb a month? I can barely use the 24gb I have.

That´s pretty easy if 2-3 people use Netflix,Viaplay,HBO,YouTube.
And then downloading torrent that are blue-ray movies 4-15GB in size.

 

[Lloydbm41]

And I never said you have but you complained that other have.

I don't understand why you repeat about wi-fi capability because thats not the issue.
The issue is bad infrastructure for mobile and fiber connection to then setup wi-fi at home.
Telephone companies in USA seems to be greedy and charge very high prizes.
The facts it that you pay double compare what i do and I don't have any limit on how much I download.

Of course many people in Sweden also only today have ADSL connection because of remote location.
But the government is subsidizing to build fiber connection. Does the government in USA.

Actually, WiFi is the main issue for this entire thread. The whole point is that Apple prevents us from downloading apps and app updates that are over 100mb in size. If you don't have WiFi, you can't do anything. Understand?

As for Fibre Optic lines... Not sure if the government subsidizes corporations like Verizon, Google, AT&T, ComCast, Cox, etc... But these companies are building Fibre Optic networks throughout the US. The FCC is the government entity that ensures standards and compatibility are met.

 

[Lappen71]

Actually, WiFi is the main issue for this entire thread. The whole point is that Apple prevents us from downloading apps and app updates that are over 100mb in size. If you don't have WiFi, you can't do anything. Understand?

And i´m telling you to setup your own wi-fi network with mobile connection is the solution if you don't have any other internet connection at home.
Here in Sweden it´s possible to get two sim-card on one mobile connection.
But maybe thats a limitation you have in USA?
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As for Fibre Optic lines... Not sure if the government subsidizes corporations like Verizon, Google, AT&T, ComCast, Cox, etc... But these companies are building Fibre Optic networks throughout the US. The FCC is the government entity that ensures standards and compatibility are met.

Ok here the government subsidizes the cost för privat people and private company.
I even think that you can get contributions from EU

 

[CTHarrryH]

I don't see a real issue with downloading an App at McDonalds or Starbucks. It isn't like you're doing banking at that site. As someone asked how do you do IOS updates without WiFI - or do via iTunes and sync.

 

[ultra7k]

Surely the OP can go to Starbucks and use the free wi-fi there to get his 100+mb apps.

How did the OP do it before when the cap was something like 50mb?

 

[Abazigal]

I wonder if this restriction was requested by the networks, precisely to stop people from doing things like downloading multi-gigabyte files over data.

 

[zone23]

I'm just curious... how does someone use 400gb a month? I can barely use the 24gb I have.

My daughter (she is 13) uses a lot of FaceTime because her friends doesn't have a cell phones. I caught them face timing (her and her girl friend) and they weren't even using the camera they were just talking 8 12 hours of that (on the weekend). Then like just recently I downloaded google source code it was like 50GB. It happens plus xbox and playstation games that you buy online they are GBs. Another time is when Apple releases updates we all have 3 Macs, 3 iPhones, 3 iPads, 3 Apple tvs I manage don't do it not on purpose. Also if you stream movies its easy to get there at 100mbs. I don't even download illegal stuff like movies. My data is every 30 days so I have it in my calendar so i can watch and decide if I should download something because its going to use a large amount of my data. I know it sounds crazy but I can do it by the 25 (out of 30) day. Don't forget windows updates too.

edit: doesn't happen every month either just some times.

 

[Abazigal]

My daughter (she is 13) uses a lot of FaceTime because her friends doesn't have a cell phones. I caught them face timing (her and her girl friend) and they weren't even using the camera they were just talking 8 12 hours of that (on the weekend). Then like just recently I downloaded google source code it was like 50GB. It happens plus xbox and playstation games that you buy online they are GBs. Another time is when Apple releases updates we all have 3 Macs, 3 iPhones, 3 iPads, 3 Apple tvs I manage don't do it not on purpose. Also if you stream movies its easy to get there at 100mbs. I don't even download illegal stuff like movies. My data is every 30 days so I have it in my calendar so i can watch and decide if I should download something because its going to use a large amount of my data. I know it sounds crazy but I can do it by the 25 (out of 30) day. Don't forget windows updates too.

edit: doesn't happen every month either just some times.

Shouldn't the majority of this be done over wifi? If you treat your cellular data like optic fiber network, then yeah, no amount will be enough for you. Which I doubt is how the networks expect you to use your mobile data.

 

[iF34R]

Surely the OP can go to Starbucks and use the free wi-fi there to get his 100+mb apps.

How did the OP do it before when the cap was something like 50mb?

We don't have a starbucks. Other than that, how? Well, j/b, that's how.

 

[mrex]

I wonder if this restriction was requested by the networks, precisely to stop people from doing things like downloading multi-gigabyte files over data.

here they are encouraging people to get fast mobile connections..

and im actually considering to end up my cable connection when the current contract ends because using the mobile connection is fast and reliable today, and it is also cheaper. im thinking to buy an usb modem and put it to the router at home. and if i need it when travelling, i can simple connect it to the laptop or so if i cant share the mobile from my phone (/tablet).

currently im using my ipad (hotspot) if i need to download something from appstore to my phone and im not at home.