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Why are you still using Apple hardware?
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I use Apple hardware because it comes with Mac OS. You are right that there is a lot of very good hardware. I think Mac OS is far superior to Windows.
I can’t really say the Windows 10 experience has been better lately for me, my family’s tech support. I mean, I really love hearing complaints from my sister, who was using a laptop with a Skylake processor mind you, about how Windows update would literally slow everything down. Greatest experience ever.
Edit: What’s the point of asking everybody why they do something and telling them their reason is wrong?
The folks who complain about W10 updates slowing down their computers are conveniently missing the posts right here on MR about MacOS updates slowing down their computers.
It happens on both sides of the fence folks.
It happens on both sides of the fence folks.
I'm beginning to find the "eco-system" thing is no longer exclusive to Apple or as necessary to me. I recently found Dell offers an app to handoff data from an android phone to a PC. If you use Google for mail, etc., your calendars and address book are synced across devices and platforms.
I like Apple FaceTime and Airplay, but as far as handoff is concerned I have used it to open a browser on another device maybe twice.
With Photos you used to be able to share libraries directly from one device across all devices. Now you need to use iCloud to get that done. With terabytes of photos it's not happening for me.
It is only a matter of time before data can be shared across multiple platforms and/or software is developed to use non Apple sharing platforms with each other.
Agreed, if you use other services then apple, then you'll not be locked into (or drawn into) the apple ecosystem. I'm pretty content with what apple has to offer and how I use my desktop/laptop
Strange. I use Core2Duo computer with SSD and 4 GB of RAM 800 MHz, Ivy Bridge based one with an SSD and 8 GB of RAM(1600 MHz), and a Coffee Lake one(Core i3 8300T) with 8 GB of RAM(2400 MHz). And NONE of those computers are getting slowed down by any Windows updates and I have just experienced massive April Windows 10 update. Are you sure it was caused by Windows updates? Usually - the fault for any problem is... the user.
In my job I use Ryzen 7 1700, 32 GB 3200 MHz RAM. I cannot complain about performance.
I have created this thread, because when you will look at things as they are - the ecosystem of Apple products is no longer a problem for not using any hardware that is non-Apple.
The only Apple hardware I use is iPad and iPhone at this moment. But computers? Nah. There are better solutions. What is the incentive to use Apple hardware? OS? Windows 10 is as good as MacOS. Hardware? I can build way better computers than Sir Design Guru can make: not throttling, dead silent, high quality, for less than Apple will tax me.
iDevices? They perfectly work with Windows. Software? Adobe suite is cross platform, and there are no differences but details. What is the incentive to use Apple hardware, where there is actually - none.
And don't tell me that OS. Because you cannot say that Windows is worse, because it is not true. I am saying this after almost a year constant everyday use of this OS.
Except I can say the OS is worse because it is.
Also, the computer only slowed down on Patch Tuesday. But, sure, it was everyone else’s fault.
Then why my computers haven't slowed down?
Are you sure that computer was not the only one which slowed down?
She hasn’t had those issues on her MacBook Pro. And I don’t think my Brother in Law’s computer slowed down, but his is a quad core with a discrete graphics card as opposed to the dual core ultrabook CPU.
Edit: Apparrntly I’m mistaken, he just doesn’t complain to me about it. Apparently it does slow it down as well.
No issues with updates ****ing up the machine. No times when update day rolls around and Firefox starts to become unresponsive because all of the resources are being used by the system. No period of about a week where a quad core system is sluggish out of nowhere. All of this started with Windows 10. Even Windows 8 was more stable than 10.
I'm still using Apple hardware because it's still working fine.
I have a 2015 MacBook Pro which works fine, and a 2012 Mac Mini which is starting to get a little long on the tooth but is fine for me, for now.
Not sure what I'll do when replacement time comes, though, as Apple doesn't really have anything available right now that I'd buy.
I have a 2015 MacBook Pro which works fine, and a 2012 Mac Mini which is starting to get a little long on the tooth but is fine for me, for now.
Not sure what I'll do when replacement time comes, though, as Apple doesn't really have anything available right now that I'd buy.
Money isn't a concern for me. I'd rather pay extra and get the customer service, usability and virus free MacOS that plays nice with all my iOS devices.
There may be specific Mac OS only software that you want or need to run and Windows offers no Mac emulator.
I'm with you, even a 8 year old Dell we have didn't suffer any slowdowns after the big April update.
Ehhh, so its not the Firefox's fault, but OS's?
What?!
What do you mean by sluggish? Does they use HDD, still?
A) That was just one example. And if it runs like a marathoner 99% of the time then maybe take a look at what’s different for the 1%.
B) One yes and the other no. But the fact that this only happens during and for the week after Windows Update runs and no other times kind of is an indicator that maybe that’s an issue.
C) Sluggish as in seeing windows draw. And programs opening and reacting slower than normal.
D) 1803 is literally the worst update ever out out and is likely BSoD-ing people as we speak.
I've been predominantly using Apple hardware since ~2003 and these days it's only because of Mac OS. I cant think of a single compelling reason to buy their current products apart from the OS - in my opinion their last "good" hardware lineup was in 2012. Comparing MacOS with Windows I find the interface more intuitive and consistent, the platform more reliable and predictable. I have a Supermicro workstation running Windows 10 which is considerably more powerful than my Mac Pro 4,1 but I can barely stand using it. The fact that every time I turn it on it seems like there is yet another forced reboot for Windows update doesn't help the matter.
If the upcoming "modular" Mac Pro doesn't have internal PCI-E slots and upgradable internal storage then my next Mac will probably be a Hackintosh. I will likely have to do the same for my next portable.
Also have an iPhone 7 but I don't particularly care for iOS - only use it because it syncs well with the Mac. I was a perfectly content Symbian user for years before Elop's suicidal "burning platform" speech encouraged me to switch with an iPhone 5. Tried 3 different iPads over the years but could never find an actual practical use for them. With no proper file management or external storage support they just seem like toys.
If the upcoming "modular" Mac Pro doesn't have internal PCI-E slots and upgradable internal storage then my next Mac will probably be a Hackintosh. I will likely have to do the same for my next portable.
Also have an iPhone 7 but I don't particularly care for iOS - only use it because it syncs well with the Mac. I was a perfectly content Symbian user for years before Elop's suicidal "burning platform" speech encouraged me to switch with an iPhone 5. Tried 3 different iPads over the years but could never find an actual practical use for them. With no proper file management or external storage support they just seem like toys.
Hmmm, a 6 month old computer, a 2 year old computer, and a 8 year old computer updated. All 3 working exactly like they worked before. Methinks you have a problem of some sort with your computer.
No BSoD's, windows draw not obviously different than before. I will admit the heaviest usage is MS office, and some serious Firefox usage by my wife on numerous gaming sites that are notorious for not playing nice at times. No difference before or after.
You’re right, fam. Two separate computers used by two separate people have similar problems around Windows Update time and it’s all them. You have no problems so they don’t exist. My bad, fam, my whole opinion is changed.
And yet, there was a reason why we all came to Apple in the first place. Not shooting people in the foot, but its not exactly like in the original days Apple was more open on iOS.... They've always had no proper filesystem on iPad/iPhone..
Just wondering what basis people have by only mentioning this "now" ? when its always been an issue...
My point is, if it was an issue, then why come to Apple in the first place.... I can understand if they "changed" something, but they haven't changed a thing with opening up file systems
Therefor, to me, that is never a good argument, just one that sounds good.
Nothing really changed, it just became more accepted that Apple is wrong even when they’re not.
A little sensitive are we? You implied that all computers were having issues with W10. I posted just to say that there are folks out there that don't have the issues you seem to be having.
If I misinterpreted your meaning, then my apologies.