I agree with your thoughts. If somebody is truly disgruntled about Apple, then consider another platform that would be more suitable. I think complaining doesn't do anything and if somebody wants to prove a point, then don't support the iPhone/Apple.
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iPhone X Why buy X or 8 when it will slow down by 60% like 7?
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I agree with your thoughts. If somebody is truly disgruntled about Apple, then consider another platform that would be more suitable. I think complaining doesn't do anything and if somebody wants to prove a point, then don't support the iPhone/Apple.
I agree, but at the same time I don't think getting al defensive like some poeple did is the answer....
I mean to each his / her own, but we still have freedom of speach, and can share our experience, no need to take it "personal".
I agree some are getting overly defensive, and there's nothing wrong with voicing opinions, my point was if somebody is that upset with Apple and they continually state how much hate they have towards them, that's not healthy. Perhaps then move on to something else that would cause less frustration for a smart phone manufacturer they allegedly trust more over Apple.
By this logic you’ll never buy a phone. Cause it may slow down at some point. So why bother?
If its intentionally done by a company to aid another issue, then we should be told. Especially when there is such a simple and non expensive workaround.
Which Apple have now admitted.
Occasional and bloatware related slowdown is a thing, deliberate slow down is another. (I AM NOT SAYING EITHER IS GOOD).
As much as the outcome is similar, one can easily be solved with a wipe (not pleasant but user doable at 0$ cost) the other requires replacing an 80% battery (wich to me is still healthy ) in a non user repleacable and highly costly (it was before the rebate) procedure for the end user (definetly a LOT less pleasant and again...costly).
I can take that a slow down will happes sooner or later due to newer cpu and less optimization for older device, but I think there's a line that should not be crossed, and this time, Apple did cross it.
It won't be the end of the world as some make it look like, but hardly a non issue as some other do!
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Maybe, maybe not. We'll see. If there's a chance to get in front of a mic, this crowd will not miss it.
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Makes no sense that 1-year old iPhone 7’s are being throttled.
It would really help if Apple simply gave some technical information on exactly how when the throttling kicks in, but of course the vague statement from a few days ago that really told us nothing
Does the throttling begin at 90% battery capacity? 80%? 70%? Nobody knows anything this point, besides the company who hid this information from customers and only admitted they cripple device performance once they were caught red-handed by users.
Only reason I’m even considering keeping my 8+ is because it is on iOS 11.1.2, which doesn’t have the throttlingvirus“feature” for the 8 or X. Still might end up returning it due to Apples shadiness & lack of integrity on this issue, not sure yet...
I don't recall reading any posts with factual backup here that show any iPhone 7 models that were actually slowed down. There probably are some, due to extreme battery use, but my iPhone 7 is 15 months old and performs at the top of the GB4 benchmarks for an iPhone 7. Why the hysteria and hand-wringing about hypotheticals? Frankly, this phone will probably be gone by the time any throttling would have kicked in.
Yup not a blip on their radar. That’s why they have issued 2 public statements and are offering battery replacements at much lower price point for affected devices and have promised to be more transparent about this.
Yup not a blip on their radar. People here a truly blinded by their hardon for Apple.
Note that there is already a legal proceeding under way in the EU that could result in not only corporate criminal actions but personal jail time for Apple execs. That isn't going to happen, but this is not a joke and the opportunities for political and legal grandstanding are real and sizable.
And there a few people who have shown low 80s on battery health, passed diagnostics when Apple ran it and were throttled by 25-35%. Lots of threads on /r/Apple with proofs.
Does anything other than benchmarking actually max out the CPU though ? I doubt most of us would notice a 25-35% throttle in normal use, especially with the A11 Bionic in the latest phones. Doesn't make it right though and I hope that Apple continues with the reduced price battery swap in future years.
Based on some people's comments, the Earth is flat. What's your point?
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Max out? Possibly not. But spike the system enough to severely stress the battery enough to shut the phone down? Yes, we know that happens, and we know Apple agrees, because they modified iOS to deal with this and have now issued a statement discussing it. But I think your point is also valid (or at least what I take your point to be): a synthetic CPU benchmark is not representative of real life usage.
If I understand Apple's statement and some other discussions by people who actually know what's going on inside the phone, CPU throttling takes place only for a few cycles, just enough to ease the battery load and let the system get back on its feet at full speed.
Someone commented above along the general lines that people were confusing bloatware with bad apps with iOS updates that were really more than older systems could gracefully handle with battery/CPU throttling, and I think that's probably very true.
Why bother taking another shower or eating again, when you will just have to repeat the process over and over again? Your body is slowly dying every day as it is. What's the point of it all?
Well my 6 Plus hasn’t slowed down. My 7 Plus has gone to my eldest daughter and she isn’t complaining. My wife still utilises her 7 without complaints. And my youngest daughter is happy with her SE. My X is ok as well. Perhaps we are a very lucky family. If my phone becomes so super slow as some suggest theirs are, then I’ve got faith it will get sorted.
I see no reason what so ever to expect such speed decreases.
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A depressing but very true thought. That’s why I party and love everyday like it is my last
Juses....Serious Apple fan sprout out nothing but BS. You know there is a option for opt out Google collecting information. But You just do not want admit.
And Android phone doesn't skow down aftet a month. I feel my Android phone just as fast as i brought. Some of my Android phones are several years ago, include Nexus 5. None of them slow to unuseable level.
Only Apple can do this magic.
Maybe try reading the quoted post I responded to. Yes, it’s on Apple’s radar, but no, it will not be something attorney generals will put their energy into.
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Yes, I’ve read about that. The article I read gave points that it was going to be tough for the prosecuting side to prove anything. I don’t think it’s going anywhere.
You may want to leave but can't for one reason or another. Too much money invested in the ecosystem, all your music and movies won't carry over. Your accessories become useless. Having to learn a whole new OS. Not so cut and dry.
You make a good point and your post is fair. Some are frustrated enough with Apple where they want to leave based don't agree with the course of path of taking over the years and the throttling is an issue for some. But the security, ecosystem and depending how much One has invested in their productline, it's not an easy transition from one platform to another competitor a platform.
We will see. It's possible that Apple's battery replacement campaign will take the wind out of the stat AG's sails. In the EU, regardless of whether that particular lawsuit has merit, tech companies have been repeatedly pilloried for claims that were in many cases much weaker than this.
This is all really simple.
Apple Has never stated that a feature of an iphone is that it slows down as the battery degrades.
This seemed to be more about their not having to replace batteries which now they are slowly being forced to do.
Replacements should be free.
Apple Has never stated that a feature of an iphone is that it slows down as the battery degrades.
This seemed to be more about their not having to replace batteries which now they are slowly being forced to do.
Replacements should be free.
There is the traditional slowdown after a major upgrade as the phone updates indexes, etc. And the OS hasn't been fully optimized yet until the .1 or so update. My 7+ seemed to get better after awhile.
The claims from Apple I read indicate it just slows things down at peak loads if the battery isn't producing enough voltage. Most likely to happen with benchmark programs.
Apple should have provided some indication when battery is degrading other than just needing to be charged more frequently. They REALLY REALLY should have provided some indication throttling is being performed.
My iPhone 7 became unusable after iOS 11 update. Restored it and it started working fine. I sold it to a work mate, he hasn't complained once and has been very happy. Most iOS issues can be solved by a clean restore.
I had a 4s with a battery that degraded to nearly unusable levels. That phone never shut off during peak CPU demand. And it didn't deteriorate instantaneously. It progressed over time.
I'd rather have a phone that shuts off randomly. Because by the time that actually starts to happen I'm likely aware that the battery is very poor and I'd have replaced it already. In the meantime I would have had full performance, too.