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For you.

Not for many of us, especially those of us who are not in 1st world countries where WiFi is abundant to access the Cloud efficiently and reliably throughout the day.

Many of us need our smartphone to operate damn near close to like a mini laptop. This is why things like MicroSD, File System and various LTE and Data Saving technologies are so popular with us.

My Apple iPad becomes quite clumsy when in low signal HSDPA areas, same with iPhones, it actually gets quite pathetic how iOS devices are so heavily reliant on fast data networks and the cloud. In parts of my house our Apple devices are unusable while our Samsung's manage to get calls and load emails and web pages in low signal areas, even when in EDGE. My iPad becomes pretty unusable on EDGE, timeouts all the time or simply taking far too long to load things.

And what's to stop them from acting like a mini desktop without file system access the way iOS works? Serious question. I'm not talking about using the cloud.

Nope. I actually cant imagine getting any real work done without file system access

That's on you, really. Lots of people get real work done without file system access.
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I think it is funny some Apple fans will try to argue that iOS is better because there is an app for everything and they come out on iOS first but then claim imessage is the best because you don't have to download any apps.

I consider best to be a tool that doesn't lock me into one ecosystem. Something like WhatsApp doesn't lock me into one platform. If I want to communicate using my tablet or smartphone or desktop, I have email.

I find it funny when people argue anything is better for everyone, really.
 

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And what's to stop them from acting like a mini desktop without file system access the way iOS works? Serious question. I'm not talking about using the cloud.

An example would be emailing different types of file formats for example an .avi file, A .PPT file and an excel file, if the your iOS device does not support a file e.g. you don't have the app installed then it's a major PITA.

Another is accessing different files from different apps, it's such a frustrating thing in iOS.

I may want to send a PDF via WhatsApp, and will have to open the PDF app I used to open that file, as WhatsApp won't see the file if I go through it.

Simple things that make accessing files are just not there in iOS.

Other things are the fact that I cannot use an iPhone as a USB Mass Storage device, or access a PC that doesn't have iTunes installed.

iOS also has no USB-OTG or Bluetooth file transfer, to better transfer files between devices.

My Android tends to make my job easier. Most of my clients use Androids to so we don't have to go to our PCs, we can do a lot of communication and sharing if e.g. As assets while we are not in our offices.

Nothing better than being able to preview any crazy file type a clients company wants to use right in my S7 Edge and then handling the process of approval and going live from my phone while I am e.g. in a presentation or meeting where they are now discussing something I am not part of e.g. when I am done presenting the Digital side of a campaign and have to sit through ATL and BTL crap (the absolute worst!)
 
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An example would be emailing different types of file formats for example an .avi file, A .PPT file and an excel file, if the your iOS device does not support a file e.g. you don't have the app installed then it's a major PITA.

Another is accessing different files from different apps, it's such a frustrating thing in iOS.

I may want to send a PDF via WhatsApp, and will have to open the PDF app I used to open that file, as WhatsApp won't see the file if I go through it.

Simple things that make accessing files are just not there in iOS.

Other things are the fact that I cannot use an iPhone as a USB Mass Storage device, or access a PC that doesn't have iTunes installed.

iOS also has no USB-OTG or Bluetooth file transfer, to better transfer files between devices.

My Android tends to make my job easier. Most of my clients use Androids to so we don't have to go to our PCs, we can do a lot of communication and sharing if e.g. As assets while we are not in our offices.

Nothing better than being able to preview any crazy file type a clients company wants to use right in my S7 Edge and then handling the process of approval and going live from my phone while I am e.g. in a presentation or meeting where they are now discussing something I am not part of e.g. when I am done presenting the Digital side of a campaign and have to sit through ATL and BTL crap (the absolute worst!)

Okay.

I can't argue against that. Your best tool is Android and file access isn't a gimmick for your use cases. It's downright an ease of use thing for how you work.

Thanks for explaining to me.
 

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Yes, they can integrate with apps. No product has a guaranteed 5 year support. Just because Apple supports an iPad 2 and iPhone 4S with updates, that doesn't mean anything because most companies shouldn't support outdated products for that long. Hangouts, What's App are two apps that work with sending messages and videochat. Hangouts is installed on many devices as a default. There isn't anything that natively does the handoffs like Mac -> iPhone or iPad ->, but that's not a high demand on Android users' lists. There are plans of going to Andromeda, which could emulate that. Ubuntu for Android was close to emulating a 3 in 1 experience. However, that stuff is considered SUBJECTIVE.

Margins are the only thing Apple focuses on. They simply don't put as much effort as they did like the Jobs' era. I didn't cherry pick a list of hardware features. Read the list again: "VR, offer an accessible file system, provide 256QAM/ 4x4 MIMO radio LTE service, offer a competent AI service, create an Iris/Retina scanning security feature, utilize AMOLED tech, offer a bigger battery capacity, use a slimmer profile, and provide more multi-tasking software features."

VR is offered through Daydream, a file system is native to Android, 256QAM/4x4 MIMO are advanced LTE hardware features, Google Assistant isn't on the Galaxy, an Iris/Retina scanner is coming to Motorola, AMOLED Tech is on many devices like the OP3/S7/Axon 7, slimmer profile means that you don't have a bulky 7+ using the same body design for the last three iPhone iterations, multi-tasking in Nougat is multi-window which is available across Nexus devices, the Pixel, etc.
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Crappy camera? It may not be the best in the world, but a crappy camera would be blurry or couldn't auto-focus. The Honor 5X's camera is crap because it doesn't offer auto-focus. How do you know how Motorola's Iris/Retina scanning works? iPhone has the best LCD color accuracy. Color accuracy doesn't mean as much as energy efficiency or hardware features. I rather have a 2k/4k screen with HDR support and energy efficiency than something that is more accurate with colors and less energy efficient. You have to realize that iOS is much more simplistic and less resource intensive, which is why the battery life could be better. A 32gb S7E with SD slot provides more value than an iPhone 7+ with 128gb storage or 256gb storage. Right now, you can get the S7E brand new for like $500-$600. The 7+ starts at $869 at the 128gb storage range. $769 for 32gb. As for VR, not many people use PCs for VR. VR is more popular on consoles with the PS4 headset, Gear VR, etc. A 5K screen is available from LG. 8k screens exist as well. They're better to look at content, but that doesn't mean I can compare them to a phone for content consumption. Two totally different aspects.

Yes, it is rated a very bad camera on that phone. Not sure on Motorolas but if works like Samsungs, it doesn't work through glasses. That is your opinion vs the Amoled. DisplayMate says different. What does it matter if it's energy efficient when the Androids can't last near as long as the iPhone. lol. My S7 Edge was a lot more than $500-600. More like $800ish. Again you are changing the numbers to fit to make you look right. The S7 Edge, Note 7 are more expensive than the iPhone equally equipped.
 

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Yes, it is rated a very bad camera on that phone. Not sure on Motorolas but if works like Samsungs, it doesn't work through glasses. That is your opinion vs the Amoled. DisplayMate says different. What does it matter if it's energy efficient when the Androids can't last near as long as the iPhone. lol. My S7 Edge was a lot more than $500-600. More like $800ish. Again you are changing the numbers to fit to make you look right. The S7 Edge, Note 7 are more expensive than the iPhone equally equipped.
Wait which Display did Display Rate the Best overall last year?
And which cameras had the best scores in Dxomark last year?
 

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I think best display was Note 7 and best camera was Pixel.

Camera is definitely NOT the pixel. It is getting bad reviews all over the place now due to Lens Flare and other issues. And the Note 7 doesn't exist any more. iPhone 7 plus had the best Camera period.

Neither the Pixel or Note 7 had dual cameras with optical zoom. And the Pixel doesn't have OIS. Sorry to say, it doesn't have the best camera period.

I own the S7 Edge and iPhone 7 plus, and I prefer the 7 plus camera by a long shot.

iPhone best Bokeh

http://bgr.com/2017/01/24/iphone-7-plus-vs-google-pixel-bokeh-comparison/
 
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Camera is definitely NOT the pixel. It is getting bad reviews all over the place now due to Lens Flare and other issues. And the Note 7 doesn't exist any more. iPhone 7 plus had the best Camera period.

Neither the Pixel or Note 7 had dual cameras with optical zoom. And the Pixel doesn't have OIS. Sorry to say, it doesn't have the best camera period.

I own the S7 Edge and iPhone 7 plus, and I prefer the 7 plus camera by a long shot.

iPhone best Bokeh

http://bgr.com/2017/01/24/iphone-7-plus-vs-google-pixel-bokeh-comparison/

Calm down there. I was saying it won DxOMark. That's it.
 
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Camera is definitely NOT the pixel. It is getting bad reviews all over the place now due to Lens Flare and other issues. And the Note 7 doesn't exist any more. iPhone 7 plus had the best Camera period.

Neither the Pixel or Note 7 had dual cameras with optical zoom. And the Pixel doesn't have OIS. Sorry to say, it doesn't have the best camera period.

I own the S7 Edge and iPhone 7 plus, and I prefer the 7 plus camera by a long shot.

iPhone best Bokeh

http://bgr.com/2017/01/24/iphone-7-plus-vs-google-pixel-bokeh-comparison/
So to YOU the iPhone 7 Plus Camera is better, thanks for clearing that up, as it's certainly not better for most of us. Same goes for the Display, Displaymate said best LCD not best overall display, while Note 7 and S7 Edge were best performing Smartphone Display, not just best OLED.

Thanks!

Cheers! :)
 
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Yes, it is rated a very bad camera on that phone. Not sure on Motorolas but if works like Samsungs, it doesn't work through glasses. That is your opinion vs the Amoled. DisplayMate says different. What does it matter if it's energy efficient when the Androids can't last near as long as the iPhone. lol. My S7 Edge was a lot more than $500-600. More like $800ish. Again you are changing the numbers to fit to make you look right. The S7 Edge, Note 7 are more expensive than the iPhone equally equipped.

Displaymate rated the Note 7 and S7 Edge displays as the best they have ever tested.
And if you read Anandtech's display analysis , he was impressed that the color accuracy was so close to that of the wide color compatible iPhone and beating the iPhone 6s
Samsung can't use wide color as Android itself lacks any sort of color management

I disagree. If you are talking about the Plus yes the iPhone has the best battery life. It lasts at least an hour longer than my S6 Edge. But the normal size iPhone has one of of the worst battery life for a flagship. I charge mine thrice a day with moderate to heavy usage.

Both the iPhone 7 plus and S7 Edge cost $769 but I find the Samsung cheaper because it has expandable storage
 
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In actual fact how much is a iPhone 7 Plus 256GB vs. a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge +256GB MicroSDXC?

Take note with the Samsung you still get another 32GB on top of that, and that 256GB is transferable to my next phone when I upgrade, so no need to buy extra storage.

As it stands I got a 32GB S7 Edge and simply threw in my 128GB MicroSDXC, so I didn't have to pay more for more storage.
 
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In actual fact how much is a iPhone 7 Plus 256GB vs. a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge +256GB MicroSDXC?

Take note with the Samsung you still get another 32GB on top of that, and that 256GB is transferable to my next phone when I upgrade, so no need to buy extra storage.

As it stands I got a 32GB S7 Edge and simply threw in my 128GB MicroSDXC, so I didn't have to pay more for more storage.

In addition the S7 Edge is using OLED which is more expensive to produce and yet its the same price as the iPhone . I am sure the premium curved OLED iPhone to be released this year will cost upwards of $800 for base 32gb
 

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Well no they are not. Does the aforementioned phones integrate with my MAC and ipad? Do they last 5 years until support expires? Can they video chat with my family members without additional software installation? Or route phone calls, messages or video chats to any available device without an additional "phone" number? (or even beat an iphone in a standard benchmark)

So until a Galaxy can do the above simple things, your list does not apply to me. Now if you said "subjective" there really would be nothing to say. But you cherry a list of hardware features and I cherry picked a list of software features. Considering the galaxy can't meet my requirements without workarounds it's behind and overpriced, subjectively speaking.

I'm not sure why you are concerned about any companies margins; but it's not for me to alter what's important as far as a purchase decision. As one persons gimmicky, like iris scanner, is another persons requirements, like touch bar.

Your integration goes only so far as an iPad and Macs where the latter doesnt benefit much as majority of Apple users run Windows. Even those who have Macs run Windows in bootcamp. Safari does not allow syncing web history or recent tabs to Windows or Android. Using chrome I can continue from where I left off on Windows or even iPad. Not possible with Apple's browser.

Siri does not sync all my SMS and notifications to Windows and Android . Handoff isnt compatible with Android or Windows.Facetime missed calls dont show up on Android or Windows. So the same workarounds I need to do on Android have to be done on iOS . And a majority of Apple users are doing it because Macs have like 10% market share . Majority are using iPads and iPhones with Windows and the only way to integrate all 3 is to resort to workarounds.I use Chrome,One Drive, Google Photos,Cortana and Skype and integration between all my iOS,Windows,Android and Mac happens flawlessly. You have to resort to workarounds no matter its iOS or Android or even if you have a Mac because your work on a Mac wouldnt sync to Windows without using workarounds


Now for this support misconception. What did iPhone 5 get with iOS 10 and iOS 9? It got the new iOS 10 designs, the new iMessage apps,Apple music new designs,security fixes. Now lets look at Android. Pixel launcher is available for all devices. All of Google's apps were updated to Material Designs through the play store.Security fixes are constantly delivered through the Play Services API which is just the first line of defense before the verify apps feature which even scans apps installed from outside the play store.Allo and Duo which are the Android equivalents of iMessage get updated on all phones regularly. Heck all Android devices even got the 3DT menu which is better than nothing because my iPhone 6 got nothing on that front. I would have taken the long press over nothing.

Also what benchmarks? Its got the fastest processor,so what? Android has the best displays currently
 
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Your integration goes only so far as an iPad and Macs where the latter doesnt benefit much as majority of Apple users run Windows. Even those who have Macs run Windows in bootcamp. Safari does not allow syncing web history or recent tabs to Windows or Android. Using chrome I can continue from where I left off on Windows or even iPad. Not possible with Apple's browser.

Siri does not sync all my SMS and notifications to Windows and Android . Handoff isnt compatible with Android or Windows.Facetime missed calls dont show up on Android or Windows. So the same workarounds I need to do on Android have to be done on iOS . And a majority of Apple users are doing it because Macs have like 10% market share . Majority are using iPads and iPhones with Windows and the only way to integrate all 3 is to resort to workarounds.I use Chrome,One Drive, Google Photos,Cortana and Skype and integration between all my iOS,Windows,Android and Mac happens flawlessly. You have to resort to workarounds no matter its iOS or Android or even if you have a Mac because your work on a Mac wouldnt sync to Windows without using workarounds


Now for this support misconception. What did iPhone 5 get with iOS 10 and iOS 9? It got the new iOS 10 designs, the new iMessage apps,Apple music new designs,security fixes. Now lets look at Android. Pixel launcher is available for all devices. All of Google's apps were updated to Material Designs through the play store.Security fixes are constantly delivered through the Play Services API which is just the first line of defense before the verify apps feature which even scans apps installed from outside the play store.Allo and Duo which are the Android equivalents of iMessage get updated on all phones regularly. Heck all Android devices even got the 3DT menu which is better than nothing because my iPhone 6 got nothing on that front. I would have taken the long press over nothing.

Also what benchmarks? Its got the fastest processor,so what? Android has the best displays currently
So in essence, points still stands; longevity, performance, support, ecosystem. Android has the best displays, but the iphone 7 has the most accurate display.

Your iphone 7 though has 3dt.
 

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So in essence, points still stands; longevity, performance, support, ecosystem. Android has the best displays, but the iphone 7 has the most accurate display.
Well then dont deny those 4 points apply to Android too

And as posted by Anandtech,if Android had wide color support, the Samsung display was just as accurate

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It's worth mentioning that Samsung doesn't actually advertise P3 gamut support, so the fact that their wide gamut mode is close is impressive and suggests that they had it in mind but didn't attempt to provide incredibly high levels of accuracy in that mode.Samsung is in the unfortunate situation of having to deal with Android not having any form of color management, which means that the wide color modes that their AMOLED displays have available are not truly useful.
@bold is very important to note

Your iphone 7 though has 3dt.
My iPhone 6 got nothing.My Nexus 5 has the 3DT menu and is a year older than my iPhone 6. How's that for support?
 

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Well then dont deny those 4 points apply to Android too

And as posted by Anandtech,if Android had wide color support, the Samsung display was just as accurate



@bold is very important to note


My iPhone 6 got nothing.My Nexus 5 has the 3DT menu and is a year older than my iPhone 6. How's that for support?
So now where exactly is the ecosystem integration in android? Can I receive a call on any device, can I start something on one device and finish it off in another? Do I have to install 3rd party software or choose between a plethora? Do I have features that are here today gone toMorrow in flagships? Is my display the most accurate?

Do I have 5 years of updates and supports. iOS 10 is wonderful in my 5s and 6 and 6s.
 

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Can I receive a call on any device,
Google voice. But personally I dont like either. When I am outside I dont like everuone in the room to know who I am talking to. Complete lack of privacy. Dont even know the usefulness of this feature

can I start something on one device and finish it off in another?
Yes.Chrome for web browsers.Google Photos ,Google docs,evernote etc

Do I have to install 3rd party software or choose between a plethora? Do I have features that are here today gone toMorrow in flagships? Is my display the most accurate?
Can I sync my iPhone web history/bookmarks with Windows or Android without third party software like on Android?
Can I sync my iPhone notifications to Windows like on Android?
Can I sync my notes to iPhone notes to Android or Windows like on Android?
Can I send files to a Windows PC wirelessly like on Android without using WiFi?
Can I sync Document files to Windows like on Android without third party software?
Can I download my productivity apps data which is an unrecognized file format for Android or iOS like on Android and later transfer to Windows?


Do I have 5 years of updates and supports.
Depends on what you mean by updates. Recently most of iOS updates have been app updates so yes.If you are talking about battery,speed improvements etc than no. But I like it that way. This wonderful support totally trashed my iPhone 6 and iPad Mini. My Android devices from 2013 run wonderfully with all latest apps. Any features Google doesnt provide, I simply sideload from xfa

iOS 10 is wonderful in my 5s and 6 and 6s.
iOS 10 is almost flawless on my iPhone 7 Plus. Below average on iPhone 6 and iOS 9 is complete trash on iPad Mini. All expletives in the world wouldnt be enough to describe my experience of the iPad Mini on iOS 9
 
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Google voice. But personally I dont like either. When I am outside I dont like everuone in the room to know who I am talking to. Complete lack of privacy. Dont even know the usefulness of this feature
Don't need google voice and it's not for you to say how useful I find a feature. :)


Yes.Chrome for web browsers.Google Photos ,Google docs,evernote etc
Dont need google software can be done with most software.


Can I sync my iPhone web history/bookmarks with Windows or Android without third party software like on Android?
Yes, use Firefox.
Can I sync my iPhone notifications to Windows like on Android?
No but I can sync them to all of my iOS devices.
Can I sync my notes to iPhone notes to Android or Windows like on Android?
Been doing that for years theough exchange.
Can I send files to a Windows PC wirelessly like on Android without using WiFi?
Yes download an app, been doing that for years.
Can I sync Document files to Windows like on Android without third party software?
See above.
Can I download my productivity apps data which is an unrecognized file format for Android or iOS like on Android and later transfer to Windows?
See above.

Depends on what you mean by updates. Recently most of iOS updates have been app updates so yes.If you are talking about battery,speed improvements etc than no. But I like it that way. This wonderful support totally trashed my iPhone 6 and iPad Mini. My Android devices from 2013 run wonderfully with all latest apps. Any features Google doesnt provide, I simply sideload from xfa


iOS 10 is almost flawless on my iPhone 7 Plus. Below average on iPhone 6 and iOS 9 is complete trash on iPad Mini. All expletives in the world wouldnt be enough to describe my experience of the iPad Mini on iOS 9
An update is an update from Apple. And your iPhone 6 has had issues from day one. My iPhone 6 on 10.2.1 is flawless.
 

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iPhone best Bokah

http://bgr.com/2017/01/24/iphone-7-plus-vs-google-pixel-bokeh-comparison/
So to YOU the iPhone 7 Plus Camera is better, thanks for clearing that up, as it's certainly not better for most of us. Same goes for the Display, Displaymate said best LCD not best overall display, while Note 7 and S7 Edge were best performing Smartphone Display, not just best OLED.

Thanks!

Cheers! :)

I own both. The iPhone display and S7 Edge are both great. But the iPhone is more accurate.
 

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Don't need google voice and it's not for you to say how useful I find a feature. :)
It was my opinion just as yours is one

Dont need google software can be done with most software.
What do you mean?If you dont like Google,go for Microsoft's apps. You need third party apps even on iOS as unless you download a third party app,your iPhone or iPad will only sync with each other not with a real productive computer



Yes, use Firefox.
Why should I download Firefox when Chrome comes preinstalled on Android?Out of the box, my Nexus syncs with Windows.I dont need third party software

No but I can sync them to all of my iOS devices.
On Android,not only can I sync them with all Androids but also my Windows PC

Been doing that for years theough exchange.
What exchange? Notes app isnt present on Windows. You need Google keep or Evernote

Yes download an app, been doing that for years.
I did.Didnt work. It needs WiFi to work. Android devices dont need WiFi

See above.
Why should I download an app when Docs comes preinstalled on my Android and I can simply use the Web app on Windows

See above.
Ah thats a new one. I would love to hear how you can download file formats iOS cant open. Hint- You cant


An update is an update from Apple.
And Androids are also getting updates through the Play services API and the Play Store

And your iPhone 6 has had issues from day one. My iPhone 6 on 10.2.1 is flawless.
My iPhone 6 was flawless on IOS 8.4.1
 

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Displaymate rated the Note 7 and S7 Edge displays as the best they have ever tested.
And if you read Anandtech's display analysis , he was impressed that the color accuracy was so close to that of the wide color compatible iPhone and beating the iPhone 6s
Samsung can't use wide color as Android itself lacks any sort of color management

I disagree. If you are talking about the Plus yes the iPhone has the best battery life. It lasts at least an hour longer than my S6 Edge. But the normal size iPhone has one of of the worst battery life for a flagship. I charge mine thrice a day with moderate to heavy usage.

Both the iPhone 7 plus and S7 Edge cost $769 but I find the Samsung cheaper because it has expandable storage

iPhone 7 and 7 plus outlast anything Android. Look up the tests. Mine 7 plus lasts 4 days, and my S7 Edge 1.5 days.
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In actual fact how much is a iPhone 7 Plus 256GB vs. a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge +256GB MicroSDXC?

Take note with the Samsung you still get another 32GB on top of that, and that 256GB is transferable to my next phone when I upgrade, so no need to buy extra storage.

As it stands I got a 32GB S7 Edge and simply threw in my 128GB MicroSDXC, so I didn't have to pay more for more storage.

That 32GB is useless when Samsung won't let you install apps to an SD Card.
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Well then dont deny those 4 points apply to Android too

And as posted by Anandtech,if Android had wide color support, the Samsung display was just as accurate

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@bold is very important to note


My iPhone 6 got nothing.My Nexus 5 has the 3DT menu and is a year older than my iPhone 6. How's that for support?

Can't use the Note 7 as you can't get them any longer. So the S7 Edge is further down that list and proves which display is better.
 
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iPhone 7 and 7 plus outlast anything Android. Look up the tests. Mine 7 plus lasts 4 days, and my S7 Edge 1.5 days.
Thats YOUR experience.Not mine nor Anandtechs. Anandtech shows the S7 Edge outlasting the 7 Plus and my 7 Plus lasts 1.5 days with moderate usage while my S6 Edge(not comparable but still) goes down in 1 or so .Heavy usage results in 1 day for 7 Plus and half a day on Samsung.My iPhone 6 battery on iOS 10 is worse than my Nexus 5 . I even got the battery checked out in the Apple Store and it turned out to be in almost perfect health.

But Samsung's phones also support fast charging while iPhones dont so it evens out for me

Can't use the Note 7 as you can't get them any longer. So the S7 Edge is further down that list and proves which display is better.

Doesnt really matter as Samsung made that screen and the S8 will be out soon and get that position back
 
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Thats YOUR experience.Not mine nor Anandtechs. Anandtech shows the S7 Edge outlasting the 7 Plus and my 7 Plus lasts 1.5 days with moderate usage while my S6 Edge(not comparable but still) goes down in 1 or so .Heavy usage results in 1 day for 7 Plus and half a day on Samsung.My iPhone 6 battery on iOS 10 is worse than my Nexus 5 . I even got the battery checked out in the Apple Store and it turned out to be in almost perfect health.

But Samsung's phones also support fast charging while iPhones dont so it evens out for me

No, that is the common experience with normal use. If you run a video with display on the whole time, yes the S7 shows its power savings with its display technology. But the iPhone has the best (forget what its called) idle than any phone where it may lose only 1% over night vs the S7 Edge where it drops a lot when not using it. It is a fact the iPhone kills any android in normal use due to that not just continuous video playback.
 
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