Why do people get a mac, and then run windows on it?

[nanofrog]

For those who buy a Mac then run ONLY windows, I will politely say that you are f*cking retards, and leave it at that.

In the case of a base Mac Pro, finding a PC equivalent (same HW specs) that was the less expensive or even the same, was impossible. The PC was always more. Way more in fact, ~$1300USD.
I even checked recently, and might be able to build an equivalent machine for the same money, but definitely not when it released.

So if someone is interested in the bottom line, the Mac Pro would actually make sense. Seems to defy logic, but hey...$1300 saved is better than in someone else's coffers.

 

[Jeremy W]

Because they like to pay a bunch of money for a good computer and then wreck it by putting windows on it

I think Apple is the one wrecking a perfectly good computer by putting a toy of an OS on it by default. At least now with Intel processors, people who actually need to get real work done can switch to Windows.

 

[nanofrog]

I think Apple is the one wrecking a perfectly good computer by putting a toy of an OS on it by default. At least now with Intel processors, people who actually need to get real work done can switch to Windows.

I hope you own a good flame retardant suit.

 

[The Flashing Fi]

In the case of a base Mac Pro, finding a PC equivalent (same HW specs), was impossible.

That's why you build your own.

 

[natebookpro]

online poker.

 

[63dot]

Yeah so how come people run windows on a mac? What improves it in their eyes?

For my personal uses, everything Mac and Mac OS works for me.

For my job, I need a program that, unfortunately only comes with XP and Vista but it's only research related and for research related input. It won't work on OS X yet, but thank God it has nothing to do with graphics or multimedia.

 

[nanofrog]

That's why you build your own.

Edited post.

Meant to say for the same or less money.
Only now has the components dropped enough to make the cost equivalent or so. A bit late, given the amount of time has passed.

 

[KítscheñÇinqµe]

I just ordered the new MacBook Pro. I make my living in Solidworks and have gone through 6 PC laptops in 5 years - what a waste! I am buying the new MacBook Pro to use as a PC
{snip}
is someone in the SF Bay Area near San Jose that wants to help me with any XP install problems that look like they are bound to pop up! Everyday I am without access to Solidworks I am out real$$$
-Ken

i live rather far from sj, and have never used sw, but why don't you run it on a (relatively) cheap dual core desktop (xp)? (or quad, still rather cheap)
did a little googling and it looks as if often opengl, graphics cards and rendering is the troublesome part. example:
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-51051.html

maybe you went thru this already?
http://www.solidworks.com/sw/support/SystemRequirements.html
http://www.solidworks.com/sw/support/videocardtesting.html

 

[BornAgainMac]

Windows is Faster, Mac is faster...

It is faster. I mean with the budget I have. I will always have a Mac but in the past I would have to purchase both. So I couldn't get as powerful of a Mac or PC that I could afford. Now I can just get one really powerful machine and go nuts with memory, hard drive space, video, monitor, CPU speed. Windows never ran faster.

 

[thinkdifferent2]

Yeah so how come people run windows on a mac? What improves it in their eyes?

They can do PC gaming on it.

 

[63dot]

They can do PC gaming on it.

That is the case now, but I hope the game makers would release both the Mac and PC versions of their games on the same day.

What fun is it when the game makers release the game three to six months later in the Mac format. Why are we so low on the priority list of game makers?

 

[thejadedmonkey]

In some cases, Windows is the superior operating system.

 

[63dot]

In some cases, Windows is the superior operating system.

I would say in most cases OS X is better, but Windows wins in some categories. But overall, it's best to have both if you can afford it. But if on a desert island and stuck with one computer, I would take a Mac Pro, thank you.

 

[nanvinnie]

solidworks, mathematica, matlab... and of course games.

i wish these programs were avail for osx.

 

[Eidorian]

solidworks, mathematica, matlab... and of course games.

i wish these programs were avail for osx.

I'm not fond of piping it through X11 nowadays but Matlab and Mathematica have been on the Mac for ages.

 

[fourthtunz]

In some cases, Windows is the superior operating system.

Sigh....until it gets bogged down with malware and viruses.

 

[Jeremy W]

Sigh....until it gets bogged down with malware and viruses.

Grow up.

 

[Eidorian]

Sigh....until it gets bogged down with malware and viruses.

I got a virus once. Someone gave me a free hard drive with a boot sector virus. Keep in mind it was 2003 and a 60 GB for free was a great deal. A format later and it was good for Windows.

 

[The Flashing Fi]

Edited post.

Meant to say for the same or less money.
Only now has the components dropped enough to make the cost equivalent or so. A bit late, given the amount of time has passed.

I calculated the costs of a Mac Pro vs building one yourself with equivalent specs many months ago, and I could still build one cheaper. You just have to know what to look for.

 

[DaveF]

Sigh....until it gets bogged down with malware and viruses.

This doesn't happen if you're attentive and a bit savvy.

In 15 years of Windows I've had one, non-destructive virus. It's not hard to protect yourself on a Windows machine.

 

[elgrecomac]

2 reasons

Visio (better than anything comparable on a Mac and is a defacto industry standard)

MS Project (for the same reasons as for Visio)

 

[KítscheñÇinqµe]

This doesn't happen if you're attentive and a bit savvy.

In 15 years of Windows I've had one, non-destructive virus. It's not hard to protect yourself on a Windows machine.

(knock on glass) I've never** had any virus, malware, etc, except norton antivirus when it wouldn't completely uninstall.

I've used win-DOS pcs (and a few macs) since late 80's. my own since about 1997.

I wouldn't recommend inexperienced people start with windows nowadays (since 1999). that would be like throwing blind (and juicy) Christians into a lion pit.

** more accurately, a few years ago the AV scanner found a "suspicious" attachment in obvious garbage spam that nobody would ever open. also, AV regularly warns about password sniffers and command-type stuff.

 

[Infrared]

I think Apple is the one wrecking a perfectly good computer by putting a toy of an OS on it by default. At least now with Intel processors, people who actually need to get real work done can switch to Windows.

I wouldn't call it a toy of an OS. It's pretty advanced in many ways.

However, Apple do have a habit of limiting what users can do without
resorting to UNIX geekery. Simplicity is a great ideal, but in striving for
that Apple sometimes remove options many users really need. The goal
should be to simplify the interface without removing options. Hard
as that is, I'd like to see Apple work at it more.

 

[pikapikoo37]

cause my school requires softwares that are onli available on windows, and of course most importantly, GAMES~!!

 

[Stridder44]

Sigh....until it gets bogged down with malware and viruses.

You have to be a complete idiot or total internet newbie to get an actual virus these days.