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Cerebrus' Maw

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Mar 9, 2008
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Brisbane, Australia
I can, hand over heart, say that I prefer XP over Vista. Ok, Vista is new still has bugs etc that the Service Packs will try to fix, but I remember when XP first came out, and it was still more reliable.
I've used Vista at work, and also for a brief peroiod of time when I got it as a loan from a friend. And each time it drove me to dispair.
Not from intial install, where everything looks nice and shiny, and the Aero effect can look well, but it's when you want to use it as an Operating System that problems start happening.

As has been mentioned 345657678 times here, the UAC really is...there is no emoticon that conveys the sense of frustration this causes. The idea is good, but the execution is terrible.
It still cant do a proper remove program either. While this lies at the door of app developers for putting files into abstract places, it still wouldn't have dont Microsoft any harm to help find those files.
The registry needs to go. A piece of technology that has been around for what? The last 15 years? It's unreliable, has security flaws (see the latest IE problem where an emergency patch was released) and is so big now that its intial advatage (central depoistory)is moot.
It does have stability issues, especially as you begin to install more apps and run them concurently. I have PS3 and Illustrator, both which run fone on my lower specced Mac, but crucify my Dell.

I feel for Vista. I see what they tried to do, but it just flopped. It was hoped that with the ever increasing trend of people getting faster and better hardware, that they could inject all the hunger of Vista to a platform and not get hit on performace issues. But all that HW was primed for XP. So peoples hardware crumbled under the added bloat. Using DirectX10 as a candy stick was a really low go also.

Windows is a victim of its own success. It has tried to cater to everyones needs due to its popularity, and it has fallen between the stools. People who wanted an Os to use seamlessly with XP were frustrated by the hardware cost, and higer users were handicapped by the waiting for developers to catch up with the new awkward release.

Bill himself has veily said that Vista was an unmitigated disaster. Windows programmers/employees are now being sent emails and notes to "minimise and reduce". I think it was on Digest where it was reported that XP is still outselling Vista for commercial use.

Overall, I think Vista summs up what has happened to the Windows platform over all these years. It ideas are good, its heart is there, but it cant do everything when it is handicapped by all the junk that it has to pull around for the last two decades. It was simply bloated to an over size balloon that sits there and explodes every so often...

I have hopes for Windows 7. Heres for an XML based distributed system, and a new, clean playing field. Sure, older dinosaurs will snap over that their system is no longer supported, but these are the exact same people that will bemoan that the "New OS" doesnt perform well at all, and that it wasen't like OS-1.

It's time that everyone on the most popular OS in the world were brought to the exact same start line and made to line up in a good order, rather then running by randomly and bitching that the guy in front has a head start. Sure, maybe MS will lose market percentage, but I, for one, would gladly use a MS product if I thought it was what I was looking for. At the moment, OS X is what that product is. If, in 3 years or whenever it comes out, Windows 7 is that product, I'll be more then willing to get it.






Not that Microsoft is ever going to do that, though. Which is a shame...
 

cg165

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Jun 24, 2008
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SpecOps2087 said:
I have 2 main grips with vista


A) It seems whenever I boot into vista there is ALWAYS some kind of update to be performed. I can't remember the last time I used vista that stupid windows update didn't pop up to tell me I need to restart my computer AGAIN. :rolleyes:

B) For all intensive purposes, its slow as crap compared to XP. It takes a long time to fully boot to where the operating system is usable and everything in general takes much longer to load compared to previous versions.


FWIW, I'm using vista 64 ultimate on my macbook pro unibody with 4GB of RAM, my computer is not out of date by any means which is why I put the blame on vista for these problems.

That's strange...I've got a unibody mbp with vista ultimate 64 bit and it absolutely flies! I haven't turned any of the vista features off, everything is set to look the best and I have 0 slow down. There are updates sometimes, but why not install them later if it bothers you or don't have it automatically download them. Updates aren't a bad thing as it usually means something was improved in some way. I've had to restart for every osx update also but what's the big deal?

There was a trackpad update for vista 64 bit also that didn't show up automatically. Go to apple.com/support
This came out on 12/18/08
 

Hellhammer

Moderator emeritus
Dec 10, 2008
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Finland
1. It eats your computers power. It's too heavy for cheap laptops (Vista's recommended specs too big, 2.4 GHz dualcore processor, 2gb ram, 256mb video card)

2. all programms are not for vista yet, very big problem
 

Turmoil

macrumors regular
Jul 2, 2008
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I like Vista a lot more than I like year old threads :)

Seriously, I like Vista just fine. It took a little setting up to get it to do what I want and not waste resources. But, turn off some needless crap, never, ever use IE and it's not a bad OS. OSX has a more elegant feel to it and is usually easier to use - but I don't know why anyone would hate Vista, it's just a computer program :)

May you buy the tools you need and not buy the ones you don't. Merry Christmas.
 

ayeying

macrumors 601
Dec 5, 2007
4,547
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Yay Area, CA
1. It eats your computers power. It's too heavy for cheap laptops (Vista's recommended specs too big, 2.4 GHz dualcore processor, 2gb ram, 256mb video card)

2. all programms are not for vista yet, very big problem

Most laptops being sold now are capable of running Vista without any problems.

All my programs work in Vista, I have yet to see any program that has issues with vista since Vista's been out for over a year now, most companies have updated to make it work with Vista.
 

DoFoT9

macrumors P6
Jun 11, 2007
17,586
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London, United Kingdom
Most laptops being sold now are capable of running Vista without any problems.

All my programs work in Vista, I have yet to see any program that has issues with vista since Vista's been out for over a year now, most companies have updated to make it work with Vista.

EEEPCs???

cheap laptops can run vista when originally bought, give it 2-3months of n00bs filling it with sh*t and it will become a bogged down peice of poo.

there are a few programs i use that dont work with vista, mainly games.
 
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