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lowendlinux

macrumors 603
Sep 24, 2014
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Germany
When was the last time you've heard universal praise for a Microsoft OS? Been everybody's whipping boy.

It depends on which part of the internet I hang out in. In real life nobody I know cares what powers their computer. If it's any consolation W10 is the whipping boy of most of Linux worlds social media.
 

iSheep5S

macrumors 6502a
Jun 4, 2013
581
288
Scotland
No issues with windows 10 here. Surface 3 and HP.

I think a bad windows release contributes to Mac sales. A good windows release opens options for value machines.

Hey Microsoft, your doing a good job. Don't **** it up!
 
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MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
25,370
8,952
a better place
With windows it seems to be a case that when they get it right - it's usually after they have got it majorly wrong or made serious missteps. So it makes the good OS even more noteworthy, whereas OSX has been incremental changes for the last 10 years.

for example

Windows XP > Windows ME ?? sucked
Windows 2000 > Windows Vista ?? sucked
Windows 7 > Windows 8 ?? sucked
Windows 10
 

Cromulent

macrumors 604
Oct 2, 2006
6,817
1,102
The Land of Hope and Glory
With windows it seems to be a case that when they get it right - it's usually after they have got it majorly wrong or made serious missteps. So it makes the good OS even more noteworthy, whereas OSX has been incremental changes for the last 10 years.

for example

Windows XP > Windows ME ?? sucked
Windows 2000 > Windows Vista ?? sucked
Windows 7 > Windows 8 ?? sucked
Windows 10

Your timeline is wrong. It went:

Windows ME > Windows 2000 > Windows XP > Windows Vista > Windows 7 > Windows 8 > Windows 10
 
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mrex

macrumors 68040
Jul 16, 2014
3,458
1,527
europe
im not going to write a long story, so...

Ultrabook (asus zenbook u500, 2012, i7, 8gb, ssd). win10 is ultrafast, i didnt do a clean install just upgraded, no problems what so ever.. however i didnt have problems in win8 either.

i would take win10 on any times again, but.... there is a but... i dont like those new features that "spy" everything you do. at first when i turned it on, i turned off everything related to gather info... and there were many... and i use a local account, not ms account.

windows i have liked it so far...
win3.11 < win95 < win2000 < win7, 8.1 < win10

win98/se/me/vista were catastropes
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Original poster
Oct 27, 2009
8,878
10,987
Vista was not that bad ... it was just too resource hungry for it's time and released with very poor driver support, which took too long for MS to fix.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
35,158
25,268
Gotta be in it to win it
im not going to write a long story, so...

Ultrabook (asus zenbook u500, 2012, i7, 8gb, ssd). win10 is ultrafast, i didnt do a clean install just upgraded, no problems what so ever.. however i didnt have problems in win8 either.

i would take win10 on any times again, but.... there is a but... i dont like those new features that "spy" everything you do. at first when i turned it on, i turned off everything related to gather info... and there were many... and i use a local account, not ms account.

windows i have liked it so far...
win3.11 < win95 < win2000 < win7, 8.1 < win10

win98/se/me/vista were catastropes
Been using "Windows" since the days of my IBM PC Xt. IBM os/2 was a better incarnation than Windows, but alas the market didn't turn out in their favor. Windows xp nailed it. Windows 7 under Windows xp. Do not like Windows 8. 8.1 is better and the jury is out in Windows 10.
 
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JustMichal

macrumors member
Sep 20, 2015
35
9
Poland
Windows 10 is so great that I've been running my first ever macbook since August ;P


I've used Release candidate for 3 months and some of the things there made me scratch my head. Brightness control for notebooks had 25% steps for example.
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
11,488
5,413
I genuinely don't understand why people didn't like windows 8. It was so bloody quick!

Win 8.1 is FAR superior to win 10 in tablet mode, it's not even close. Desktop mode is the same thing, I really never understood the crying and whining when all you needed to do was download classic shell for free. Win 10 is nice for desktop, but it's not like I'm particularly impressed with anything on Win 10 on the desktop versus win 8.1, it's more a refinement and should really be win 8.2. Tablet use, I just don't understand why they borked so much stuff, stuff they did NOT need to mess up.

Anyhow it's decent enough for desktop use, and it's free which I think is great since it's very much a beta product. Smart move too, just like the crack dealer who gives the first hit for free. I have high hopes MS is working on tablet functionality, even they can't be that dumb (oh wait..cough RT cough).
 
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Lloydbm41

Suspended
Oct 17, 2013
4,019
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Central California
I'm running Win10 on my Dell XPS 8700. Haven't had any issues mentioned by the OP.

As for the daily updates, I set my machine to do it every night at 3 am. I'm never bugged by, or receive popups for, any updates. It just works.
 

whodatrr

macrumors 6502a
Jan 12, 2004
672
494
Loving Win 10, but I'm on an SP3. It's rock-solid and very productive, though it's an adjustment from decades of being on OSX almost exclusively.

El Capatain, on the other hand, was driving me crazy with beachballs on Office and Safari, jut the other day. I probably lost a day of productivity, due to those headaches. But it now seems to have calmed down, and I was the one stupid enough to update my OS and Office at the same time... so, that was my bad.

Both are good OSs. Win 7 was stable and efficient, but its UI was lame. Win 8 tried too hard to be modern, to the point of being unuseable. Win 10 is just right. It's the perfect OS for hybrid devices. Continuum is a dream! OSX is still my favorite desktop OS, but these hybrids are starting to grow on me.

But that's just my opinion. YMMV.
 

mrex

macrumors 68040
Jul 16, 2014
3,458
1,527
europe
Been using "Windows" since the days of my IBM PC Xt. IBM os/2 was a better incarnation than Windows, but alas the market didn't turn out in their favor. Windows xp nailed it. Windows 7 under Windows xp. Do not like Windows 8. 8.1 is better and the jury is out in Windows 10.

i totally forgot xp =} win 8,1 is good. everybody hated metro icons, but why on earth they didnt boot to a desktop mode!?
 

nickchallis92

macrumors 6502a
Mar 4, 2012
906
469
London
Last year I fulfilled a short term contract at the NHS which like all public sector, socialist institutions runs decade out-of-date hardware with windows XP. You'd be surprised at how much worse it is vs how you remember it.

The snap feature isn't there, the stacking of programs on the taskbar is clumsy, IE6!!!!!
 

nlr

macrumors 6502
May 27, 2010
457
1
London
I'm running Win10 on my Dell XPS 8700. Haven't had any issues mentioned by the OP.

As for the daily updates, I set my machine to do it every night at 3 am. I'm never bugged by, or receive popups for, any updates. It just works.

Am I correct in saying your pc has to be on at 3am?
 

lowendlinux

macrumors 603
Sep 24, 2014
5,460
6,788
Germany
It doesn't bother you or anyone that updates are installed without any input from the user? If MS can install OS changing SW without the user knowing what else whom else can install stuff without the user knowing? I really don't understand how this is OK.
 
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Altis

macrumors 68040
Sep 10, 2013
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It doesn't bother you or anyone that updates are installed without any input from the user? If MS can install OS changing SW without the user knowing what else whom else can install stuff without the user knowing? I really don't understand how this is OK.

The automatic updates are the main annoyance I have with Windows 10. They should allow you to choose when and what to download and install.

That said, Apple's permanent update systems infuriates me tenfold.
 

Rigby

macrumors 603
Aug 5, 2008
6,257
10,215
San Jose, CA
The automatic updates are the main annoyance I have with Windows 10. They should allow you to choose when and what to download and install.
If you have the Pro version, you can set a group policy that will at least allow you to choose the "when":

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/make-...ore-downloading-or-installing-windows-updates

What bothers me more is that it takes quite some effort to block individual updates. It's often also difficult to find out what exactly the updates do, since MS doesn't provide detailed information anymore (at least it's not easily found).
 

Frisco

macrumors 68020
Sep 24, 2002
2,475
69
Utopia
Win 7 was stable and efficient, but its UI was lame. Win 8 tried too hard to be modern, to the point of being unusable. .
What's lame about the UI in Windows 7?
Windows 7 is a beautiful well crafted. easy to navigate OS. Windows 10 is flat, monotone and settings are in different places. The start menu is a start menu for "App" first. Programs are just listed alphabetically--a lot of scrolling.

Microsoft's decision to remove Aero was primarily so their Surface tablets could run efficiently. They removed too many things to make the Surface fast with a desktop OS.

Windows 10 still feel designed around "Apps." And we are all paying the price because they were late to the mobile party and now we have to drink from their keg on the desktop.
 
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