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maflynn

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I think the word "free" is the real reason for the huge number of upgrades in a short time.
Nothing wrong with Free, even so, MS had provided a heavily discounted windows 8 upgrade (30 bucks) and that didn't do much to see the adoption numbers increase. Still free is free and it did what MS was hoping for :)

When was the last time you've heard universal praise for a Microsoft OS? Been everybody's whipping boy.
Windows 7 received high acclaim, even XP did. Only Vista and Windows 8 are versions that were highly derided.
 

Renzatic

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Windows 7 received high acclaim, even XP did. Only Vista and Windows 8 are versions that were highly derided.

XP released to something of a mix reception when it first came out. While it was far more stable than the 9x line, it was also slower at some tasks, and more resource intensive.

It's funny thinking about how people wailed and gnashed their teeth over how it required 512MB of RAM to hit its "sweet spot", and that its install footprint was a full 1GB of HDD space. Kinda quaint now.
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
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XP released to something of a mix reception when it first came out. While it was far more stable than the 9x line, it was also slower at some tasks, and more resource intensive.
Indeed, it initialy received some mixed reviews, but people quickly warmed too it. Unlike Vista which turned into a good stable product but never could shake off the poor rollout.
 

Renzatic

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Indeed, it initialy received some mixed reviews, but people quickly warmed too it. Unlike Vista which turned into a good stable product but never could shake off the poor rollout.

I think Vista had the disadvantage of much higher expectations being lumped onto it, and the Internet Tech Scene Judgement Force being in full swing by the time it came out. It took XP nearly 3 years to become a solid OS with SP2, but people loved it nonetheless.

Vista? It had a rocky start, 8 years worth of expectations riding on it, and high system requirements when it came out. But SP1, which came out a year later, made the OS just as stable as what everyone would eventually come to appreciate in Windows 7. Still, with people running around the internet screaming VISTA SUCKS, it never had a chance to redeem itself. Even I fell for it somewhat, since I all but skipped Vista back then, despite knowing it ended up being better than what most people claimed.
 
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Frisco

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Sep 24, 2002
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"Cancel or Allow"
Did they ever fix that pseudo security message box that popped up every time you tried to do something in Vista?
 

skottichan

macrumors 65816
Oct 23, 2007
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Honestly, not having problems on mine, I have Win10 on a 2013 15" rMBP and a 2011 27" iMac, haven't had a single problem.

That aside, I think it's getting a lot of praise because it's a pretty solid OS compared to the previous versions of Windows.
 

kasakka

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Oct 25, 2008
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Windows 10 on the desktop isn't much of an upgrade over 7 and in a few small cases actually a downgrade. For example the sound mixer is far worse.

I feel like Windows 10 should've been released at the start of 2016. It feels incomplete with too much legacy stuff still in it. Upcoming updates should fix some of these issues. I do use the OS on my home computer without any real issues.

I like what MS is trying to do and their demonstrations of phones being able to be turned into a desktop computer by connecting a display and whatnot are seriously impressive.
 

M5RahuL

macrumors 68040
Aug 1, 2009
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Win NT 4.0, Win 2000 Pro, 7 Pro, and 10 Pro are amazing Windows OS releases imo. Worst was Win 98 ( for me)
 

Qbnkelt

macrumors 65816
Oct 15, 2015
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Windows 8/8.1 were horrible for me. So I do praise Windows 10.

However, I'm going Mac next. Haven't decided which one yet but after 8/8.1, I'm afraid of what might happen win Windows 11.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Oct 27, 2009
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Windows 8/8.1 were horrible for me. So I do praise Windows 10.

However, I'm going Mac next. Haven't decided which one yet but after 8/8.1, I'm afraid of what might happen win Windows 11.

There won't be a Win 11 for a long time or never again. MS is pretty much doing what Apple is .... staying at 10.
 

Altis

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Sep 10, 2013
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There won't be a Win 11 for a long time or never again. MS is pretty much doing what Apple is .... staying at 10.

I'd be willing to bet that Apple will do the same with iOS -- stay at iOS 10 (or X) for a while. It really still needs to be sorted if you ask me, and the yearly releases are a bit much.
 

CE3

macrumors 68000
Nov 26, 2014
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If Microsoft would reverse course on their new forced updates and privacy policies, I'd be singing Windows 10's praises more. I've had no real issues with 10 since installing it on my laptop the day after it was released (I'm keeping 7 on my desktop, though). It's the update Windows 8 should have been, and it's been a very efficient OS so far.

The problem is, a year or two from now it could be an entirely different OS, or an update could break something critical in your workflow, and you just have to deal with it.

I'm surprised they're going in the direction they are so aggressively with privacy and forced updates, given all the commendable charitable work Bill Gates does via his foundation (naive of me, perhaps). If they don't make some changes to their new policies, I think they could face some big legal battles down the road.
 

AFEPPL

macrumors 68030
Sep 30, 2014
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W10 is just so fluid and snappy on my 3 year old HP desktop and laptop I'm well impressed.
its ahead of OS X for sure and no crashes or major bugs - take note apple!!!!!!!!!!

As to the interface, takes no longer to learn than iOS or the watch OS but is leaps better.
 

alex2792

macrumors 65816
Jun 13, 2009
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I have W10 running on the SP3 and have no complaints, but I really didn't have an issue with Windows 8/8.1 either so I guess I'm easy to please. So far it's been pretty stable and I really like the darker UI better than El Capitan on my MBA.
 

Michael Goff

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If Microsoft would reverse course on their new forced updates and privacy policies, I'd be singing Windows 10's praises more. I've had no real issues with 10 since installing it on my laptop the day after it was released (I'm keeping 7 on my desktop, though). It's the update Windows 8 should have been, and it's been a very efficient OS so far.

The problem is, a year or two from now it could be an entirely different OS, or an update could break something critical in your workflow, and you just have to deal with it.

I'm surprised they're going in the direction they are so aggressively with privacy and forced updates, given all the commendable charitable work Bill Gates does via his foundation (naive of me, perhaps). If they don't make some changes to their new policies, I think they could face some big legal battles down the road.

You're surprised they're forcing updates? One of their biggest problems has always been the fact that they have to support everyone on multiple levels of "did they patch their system completely?". They actually want to be able to focus on one Windows 10 to patch, where everyone is running the exact same OS. Why wouldn't they want that?
 
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maxsix

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Jun 28, 2015
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My Windows 10 experience has been really satisfying. Having Windows 7 very well optimized for my work and personal requirements, I purposely continued to enjoy it while watching version 8 come and go. Involved in the beta of 10 I knew it would be good and indeed once ready for public release it is excellent. It's very nice to have a good showing from Microsoft.

It gets even better with the advent of the Surface lineup. Living near a large university, suddenly waves of students are now using the Surface Pro with MS One Note. It's a very popular combination that's working very well for note taking and most everything else. The shift away from seeing nearly everyone in any of the Starbucks surrounding the school with MBA/MBP models to the diminutive Surface Pro proves just how successful MS is in getting students to return to Windows.
 

CE3

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Nov 26, 2014
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You're surprised they're forcing updates? One of their biggest problems has always been the fact that they have to support everyone on multiple levels of "did they patch their system completely?". They actually want to be able to focus on one Windows 10 to patch, where everyone is running the exact same OS. Why wouldn't they want that?

Well I think Windows 7 has been a great OS and it gives us the options to disable updates.

As far as the way the 10 has been running and working for me, I'm happy so far. My criticisms are not just with the forced updates, but with their new privacy policies, too, which are very concerning.
 
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Michael Goff

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Well I think Windows 7 has been a great OS and it gives us the options to disable updates.

As far as the way the 10 has been running and working for me, I'm happy so far. My criticisms are not just with the forced updates, but with their new privacy policies, too, which are very concerning.

Yes, Windows 7 was great. I didn't say otherwise. I just said that they want to get to a point where there is literally one Windows and letting people not take updates ruins that.

As for the privacy things, I think they're being overstated.
 
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Michael Goff

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I hope you're right.

There are things you can turn off and things you can't in W10. From what I can gather, the types of things that can't be turned off are the types of things they normally only have in beta products. It's a little weird, obviously, but nothing I'm not used to since I run beta products all the time.
 

ackmondual

macrumors 68020
Dec 23, 2014
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U.S.A., Earth
No major issues on a Lenovo ThinkPad thus far. AMD A4-6210 quad core, 1.8 GHz w/4 GB RAM.

I use Word, Excel, and Visio in lighter doses, so nothing really that would tax the resources.

I tried running a Python script using IDLE, and it seems like it does run slowly. That processor is rated 2554-something, so I wasn't expecting it to zoom along. My desktop has an i7. I'll see if it runs just as fast there as well.
 
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CE3

macrumors 68000
Nov 26, 2014
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I'm surprised they're going in the direction they are so aggressively with privacy and forced updates, given all the commendable charitable work Bill Gates does via his foundation (naive of me, perhaps). If they don't make some changes to their new policies, I think they could face some big legal battles down the road.

[off topic] Since posting this I did a little research on The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and found that some of their work and investments aren't nearly as commendable as I thought they were. [/off topic]

Anyway, back to Windows 10!
 
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