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Why even Android anymore?
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My latest interest is the Honor View 10, I can get it shipped today via Amazon for $499. Way better alternative to the Mate 10 Pro IMHO.
Damn you Android.
Damn you Android.
Sorry if I was unclear, I was wondering what you found you liked about it.
Looking for another perspective as this design is growing.
For me, I love the ability to swipe the FP sensor, and bring down my notification shade, or swipe up to hide it. This comes in handy as I can unlock my phone, and view my notifications, without repositioning my entire hand. Which is what I would have to do if the FP sensor was on the front, and I doubt the front FP readers feature the notification swipe gesture.Sorry if I was unclear, I was wondering what you found you liked about it.
Looking for another perspective as this design is growing.
Sorry if I was unclear, I was wondering what you found you liked about it.
Looking for another perspective as this design is growing.
I'm not @lowendlinux but I find it perfectly-placed on the Nexus 6p and the Pixel 2 XL. Pull my phone out of my pocket and my finger just lands on that spot to unlock the phone. Sure, it's not on the front where it can be used to unlock with the phone sitting on a desk or a table, but with Android I can see full notification content on the lockscreen so there's no need to unlock unless I want to interact with an app. It's also well-placed for pulling down the notification shade with the device unlocked, just swipe the finger down on the sensor and down comes the shade, swipe up and away it goes...
@Rhonindk This is a MUCH better version of what I was trying to say lol
I'm scratching my head. I don't even see why you think they are similar. The difference is bigger on a Samsung device. I find most of your points to not have any value.
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So your answer to not buying a phone with a locked boot loader is buying another phone with a locked bootloader? You probably had the wrong reason to go Android to begin with.
When all bootloaders are locked and I can't flash my own ROM I'll buy an iPhone because I'll have to use whatevers there to begin with
Daily driver is S9, iPhone X (soon to be sold / traded in for RED iPhone 8) demoted to back up. Here are my reasons why Android is far more useful to me:
1. Android Auto. Google maps and Waze baked into car interface.
2. LTE modem in S9 supports gigabit LTE whereas Apple's $1000 phone does not. Important for carrier aggregation and when network is congested.
3. LDAC bluetooth audio codec.
4. Notifications that are useful and always on if I want them to be.
5. Terrarium TV.
6. Ad-free (free) modded YouTube app with carrier resolution cap override. Up yours Verizon.
7. Samsung Pay.
8. Google Assistant.
9. No notch (for now).
my favorite unlisteed feature is Secure Folder.
Sorry if I was unclear, I was wondering what you found you liked about it.
Looking for another perspective as this design is growing.
While everything below is true, I don't like it on the front it's not a natural place for my thumb.
Yup, Oreo runs as smooth as iOS 9/10/11 did on my iPhone 6s. It's all about which OS suits your better nowadays.
To @Regime2008, @hallux, and @lowendlinux - Thx!!
This is what I was looking for. I personally prefer it accessible (work items are prevented from showing lockscreen content) while on the desk. Will have to take a second look.
Appreciate your feedback.
This is what I was looking for. I personally prefer it accessible (work items are prevented from showing lockscreen content) while on the desk. Will have to take a second look.
Appreciate your feedback.
To @Regime2008, @hallux, and @lowendlinux - Thx!!
This is what I was looking for. I personally prefer it accessible (work items are prevented from showing lockscreen content) while on the desk. Will have to take a second look.
Appreciate your feedback.
I have an smart watch so any time my phone is in proximity of my watch I can unlock it without the FP sensor, the same applies to my car and it's radio, and my house with the WiFi. Smart unlock is pretty cool
Android serves a purpose of bringing a unique ecosystem of devices by different manufacturers in various forms (high end, low end, gaming etc) that all run a version of Android. On the other hand Apple provides a ecosystem of devices [from the same manufacturer] that all follow a predefined design language (no microSD slot, no headphone jack, waterproof, touchid, and running iOS.)
Another cool thing about android (that can be a pain in the neck) is the device variants of a specific model. Take my current phone the LG V10 for example. It has 17 different variants ranging from the unlocked model (H960) the AT&T variant (H900) Verizon (VS990) etc.
Typically, the carrier models are the ones that get stuck with the locked bootloaders and, usually contain more bloatware. However, that international variant (which is harder to obtain over here in the US) is the one that receives the unlocked bootloader and, 9/10 times contains less bloatware.
Next up I cannot stress how customization android is on a particular device. With android, (even without root access) there are endless possibilities for personalizing your device like widgets, interactive wallpapers (I've seen one of a dragon that when pressed shoots fire out of its mouth) launchers, lock-screens, and my personal favorite, choosing default apps.
Now, when it comes to design language (both external, functionality and UI design), its a 2 way street. For example, Android had both access to 3rd party keyboards, and widgets way before Apple did. On the other hand, Apple in iOS 7 implemented the flat modern UI that is widespread across pretty much all platforms today and a more refined facial recognition system with the iPhone X. Overall, when it comes to the evolution of both iOS and Android, both enhance each others ideas in a full out arms race to inspire each other.
Originally, I tried out Android back in 2015 to see what I thought of it and, today, i like it for the uniqueness of each device, the functionality, and finally my favorite being able to customize my device to my desire!
Another cool thing about android (that can be a pain in the neck) is the device variants of a specific model. Take my current phone the LG V10 for example. It has 17 different variants ranging from the unlocked model (H960) the AT&T variant (H900) Verizon (VS990) etc.
Typically, the carrier models are the ones that get stuck with the locked bootloaders and, usually contain more bloatware. However, that international variant (which is harder to obtain over here in the US) is the one that receives the unlocked bootloader and, 9/10 times contains less bloatware.
Next up I cannot stress how customization android is on a particular device. With android, (even without root access) there are endless possibilities for personalizing your device like widgets, interactive wallpapers (I've seen one of a dragon that when pressed shoots fire out of its mouth) launchers, lock-screens, and my personal favorite, choosing default apps.
Now, when it comes to design language (both external, functionality and UI design), its a 2 way street. For example, Android had both access to 3rd party keyboards, and widgets way before Apple did. On the other hand, Apple in iOS 7 implemented the flat modern UI that is widespread across pretty much all platforms today and a more refined facial recognition system with the iPhone X. Overall, when it comes to the evolution of both iOS and Android, both enhance each others ideas in a full out arms race to inspire each other.
Originally, I tried out Android back in 2015 to see what I thought of it and, today, i like it for the uniqueness of each device, the functionality, and finally my favorite being able to customize my device to my desire!
Limitless customisation great but not necessarily a good thing.
The trust is that the average consumer don't know what they want and choice gives you anxiety. It's like walking into a new restaurant serving unfamiliar food and seeing a list of 100 options. Hence why people like to ask a waiter/waitress for recommendations.
Thankfully Google have put lots of effort into making Android great to use out of the box rather than telling customers "Here's an open source, do whatever you want with it".
What I do appreciate, is the subtle variations between Android phones from different manufactures. Currently I have a Google phone, previous I had a Samsung one and next time I might even buy a OnePlus. While iPhones have brilliant hardware, iOS looks no different on the X then it did on the 5S and that doesn't spark enough desire in me.
My mother's Note 4 gave out a week ago, and she's been using a budget phone since, which her car can't even detect the phone's bluetooth.
I just ordered her an iPhone 8 Plus 64gb Red Edition. Gonna pick it up later today.
I was going to get her the Note 8 instead, since she likes the S-pen. But don't think she would like the finger sensor placement. And her disorganization on Android urks me.
This will be her first iPhone ever, and it will keep her icons, homescreens, and etc organized for once. And that means less calls to me asking to fix something.
As I explained previously, I myself can't deal with a iPhone on a daily basis. But it's great for others. Now only if I can convince her to use a password manager instead of using random pages in a book.
I just ordered her an iPhone 8 Plus 64gb Red Edition. Gonna pick it up later today.
I was going to get her the Note 8 instead, since she likes the S-pen. But don't think she would like the finger sensor placement. And her disorganization on Android urks me.
This will be her first iPhone ever, and it will keep her icons, homescreens, and etc organized for once. And that means less calls to me asking to fix something.
As I explained previously, I myself can't deal with a iPhone on a daily basis. But it's great for others. Now only if I can convince her to use a password manager instead of using random pages in a book.
My mother's Note 4 gave out a week ago, and she's been using a budget phone since, which her car can't even detect the phone's bluetooth.
I just ordered her an iPhone 8 Plus 64gb Red Edition. Gonna pick it up later today.
I was going to get her the Note 8 instead, since she likes the S-pen. But don't think she would like the finger sensor placement. And her disorganization on Android urks me.
This will be her first iPhone ever, and it will keep her icons, homescreens, and etc organized for once. And that means less calls to me asking to fix something.
As I explained previously, I myself can't deal with a iPhone on a daily basis. But it's great for others. Now only if I can convince her to use a password manager instead of using random pages in a book.
Feel your pain, especially with password management—for both my mother and my wife.
For some, the lack of a serious 3rd contender in the smartphone space has us picking the lesser of two evils. iOS or Android unless I have missed other serious contenders. I have an iPhone because of my disdain of Google. Yes, I understand that iCloud uses Google cloud, but I do my level best to limit my Google footprint. The company is some serious hot garbage IMO. If Samsung built a phone without any ties to Google and without the nasty bloatware (Fartbook and the like), I’d likely give that a go. At least Apple publicly tries to limit the encroachment on our privacy - Google goes out of their way to pilfer what they can. I’d love to have the openess of Android though. I have a lot of appreciation for open source. Apple’s closed off walled garden has a very suffocating feeling at times.
If you're willing to make the compromises and do the work you can have a completely open source Android phone.
You don't need an iphone for that, my Samsung device does it exactly the same (except I'm not limited to only 4 columns)This will be her first iPhone ever, and it will keep her icons, homescreens, and etc organized for once. And that means less calls to me asking to fix something.
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This will be her first iPhone ever, and it will keep her icons, homescreens, and etc organized for once. And that means less calls to me asking to fix something.
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Aging mom .... iPhone 3GS to Galaxy Nexus to LG 3 to iPhone SE to ....
I had less calls with the Nexus than any other till is started to physically fail.
The SE she kept taking to wiggle mode
... at least until the SE took a swirly .... My mother's Note 4 gave out a week ago, and she's been using a budget phone since, which her car can't even detect the phone's bluetooth.
I just ordered her an iPhone 8 Plus 64gb Red Edition. Gonna pick it up later today.
I was going to get her the Note 8 instead, since she likes the S-pen. But don't think she would like the finger sensor placement. And her disorganization on Android urks me.
This will be her first iPhone ever, and it will keep her icons, homescreens, and etc organized for once. And that means less calls to me asking to fix something.
As I explained previously, I myself can't deal with a iPhone on a daily basis. But it's great for others. Now only if I can convince her to use a password manager instead of using random pages in a book.
Did you try the easy mode on the Note? iPhone launcher seems more complicated compared to easy mode.
Plus those with not too good eyesight, a bigger screen phone is better.
My answer is.....because iOS isn't Android! I don't see any similarities going on. My S9 looks and acts nothing like an iPhone. Then there is the big cost difference.
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My mother is not that out of touch with technology. She's not jitterbug phone material. LOL.
I will admit, setting up an iPhone as new is more of a pain than setting up Samsung as new. She loves the finger sensor, being that she's coming from a Note 4, and loves the double tap to reach.