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Why has Apple made iOS5 so difficult to grasp?
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We are just confused as to how you find iOS 5 difficult to grasp. I find it to be completely intuitive. Must be an age thing.
no its a .. um idk.. everyone is different.. and as U can see some ppl here get it and others dont.. sigh..
Apparently, I'm not the only victim of "age". Really no reason for personal attacks, is there?
ok ok lighten up please ..
) lets be careful .. i have been trying and paying attention for the past week at least..
It is not a question of how to use it, it is more an issue with all the bugs that folks have discovered, which has made it harder to use. Although I have no doubt that there were millions of successful upgrades, we are just not hearing those stories.
well for me its partly brains and partly bugs but yea i got friends upgrade no problems. me.. every problem.
As I'm sure most of you know, you ONLY hear from those having troubles. I personaly upgraded 4 iPhones...3 iPhone 4 and 1-3GS. No problem with any of them (and I'm only pointing this out because I would guess it worked well for the vast majority of users or you would be seeing headlines everywhere, not just on a rumors or techie forum). The only problem I've experienced is on my 4...the battery life was initially much worse...things seem to be better today.
For the most part it's working as I expected...there are always some issues...and there are always some issues that crop up because of unique configurations or situations that cause hiccups.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I tend to spend a little time on the Apple site before an update is released...just browsing to find out what features are coming up...by the time I have it...I know 95% of the 'new' features.
and i did the same.. i'm an apple nerd.. its all me and my friends have been talking about for weeks seriously.. its like air plane crashes.. how many planes come and go every day fine.. of course you dont hear about them.. you hear about the crashes.. and i know 3 friends.. didnt have any probs.. went smooth as a baby's .. lol.. me and one of my friend's bf.. issues..
That's just the point, you shouldn't have to 'pay attention', no attention was needed in OS4.
I'm purchasing an iPhone 4s as I need the 64GB storage, but I otherwise would not be upgrading because of this new OS. IOS4 is easier to use than IOS 5 in many respects (and I have owned every iPhone since the 2G).
I can reinstall ios4 on the iPhone 4, but I wont be able to put IOS4 on the 4s.
The only real improvement in IOS5 is being able to take a photo using the volume keys (genuinely useful) - everything else seems gimmicky at best and a nuisance at worst.
Notifications centre & iCloud for example are confusing by their vague descriptions of what they do on the phone.
They have even changed the way SMS alerts display in IOS5 too - it's not nearly as private or discreet as it was in IOS4.
To get near the level of privacy in IOS5 that I had in IOS4, I have to individually disable apps from the notification centre or change their alert status. Not intuitive at all and more like a windows approach than a Mac, with popups enabled by default.
So I agree with the many others who have posted. IOS5 is...welll...okay, but I'd go back to IOS4 in a heartbeat if I had the choice.
What?!!
There's not a single thing confusing about iOS 5, iCloud, iMessage or Newsstand. It can't be any easier than what it currently is. Please, tell me, what don't you understand about any of the aforementioned features? It's so user-friendly, so intuitive that even kids with Down syndrome could grasp it. I'm dead serious.
There's not a single thing confusing about iOS 5, iCloud, iMessage or Newsstand. It can't be any easier than what it currently is. Please, tell me, what don't you understand about any of the aforementioned features? It's so user-friendly, so intuitive that even kids with Down syndrome could grasp it. I'm dead serious.
please we are just talking in circles and while i appreciate we are trying to understand each other.. its just the same things being said.. by both sides
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That's just the point, you shouldn't have to 'pay attention', no attention was needed in OS4.
I'm purchasing an iPhone 4s as I need the 64GB storage, but I otherwise would not be upgrading because of this new OS. IOS4 is easier to use than IOS 5 in many respects (and I have owned every iPhone since the 2G).
I can reinstall ios4 on the iPhone 4, but I wont be able to put IOS4 on the 4s.
The only real improvement in IOS5 is being able to take a photo using the volume keys (genuinely useful) - everything else seems gimmicky at best and a nuisance at worst.
Notifications centre & iCloud for example are confusing by their vague descriptions of what they do on the phone.
They have even changed the way SMS alerts display in IOS5 too - it's not nearly as private or discreet as it was in IOS4.
To get near the level of privacy in IOS5 that I had in IOS4, I have to individually disable apps from the notification centre or change their alert status. Not intuitive at all and more like a windows approach than a Mac, with popups enabled by default.
So I agree with the many others who have posted. IOS5 is...welll...okay, but I'd go back to IOS4 in a heartbeat if I had the choice.
jazzy i'm with you here..
i have a 4 (with ios5) and a 4s.. i dunno if i want to return the 4s or not, if i do i'd keep using the 4 with ios5 obviously.. i keep going back and forth.. of course doesnt help that returning it is becoming an ordeal. went to the apple store.. cant return cuz i bought from apple.com . was told i needed to call MY APPLE for return.. ha try getting thru..
This is a pretty bold statement - as someone who is pretty technical, and finally getting it after a few days, I definitely cannot agree to this.
1. iMessage - Yes, we all know the green vs. blue button and it's something you'd learn if you read the forums. However, the number of times I've had to explain to my friends on what to look for to see if it's iMessage vs. SMS has been a lot. Keep in mind, many people in the wild upgrade without obsessing over the announcements or going to Apple.com to read the "what's new" sections.
2. iCloud - Coming from MobileMe where we had iDisk, keychain syncing and photo galleries, iWeb, etc., iCloud was not what I expected at all. I thought it would be more like iDisk, but I am totally off here. In the end, I do like the service and the convenience of Photostream but unfortunately since I like Snow Leopard over Lion, I won't be taking full advantage of it via iPhoto. On a separate note, it is weird that iPhoto Photostream on OSX requires 10.7.2 whereas Contacts, Calendar, and other stuff does not require 10.7.2 to function.
3. My friends were excited to upgrade to iOS 5, but they didn't even realize you could swipe down to see the Notification Center.
4. Taking the time to organize the new alert settings for each individual app is not really intuitive at all. I only get it cause I just did the same exercise locking down my Facebook profile in preparation for the new Timeline view. At least with Facebook, when they change a layout on the web and in their app, they use large bubbles to notify you where to go to change settings and what to press to do what. Apple could certainly do a better job of including tutorials within the apps and iOS 5.
While I'm personally not having a problem with it and love the changes, I also have been on this forum browsing this past week learning of issues, figuring out how to access certain things and trying to figure out what is what. Yes, kids can figure it out, but it's not as easy for non-enthusiasts or the general public who just follow along the software makers assuming they know what's best for them. If it really were so simple that everyone can figure out, there wouldn't be 10,000 people browsing the iPhone and iOS 5 forums trying to figure out their issues.
I can see why users that are completely new to this are confused or unhappy. For me, I'm just happy I get to keep using iDisk until next summer. I wish the extra storage room you can buy would come in the form of iDisk. Losing it really is a step backwards for the end user experience and I've started moving to Drop Box now because of it.. Losing what was a huge feature to me and my family is nothing to get excited about. Same thing with the gallery for photos. I have photo stream turned off on all our devices still because I just can't see using it. I much prefer creating and uploading specific sets of photos that just stayed there for as long as I like them to. I'm not the type to go out all the time and take a ton of great pictures and then get bored with them because I've taken more...
Yeah, I have to agree with the OP on this one. Multiple apple IDs, iCloud backup versus wifi sync, iMessage sync between devices...
This roll out was a bit of a mess.
This roll out was a bit of a mess.
Multiple Apple Id's and labeling all Id's (MbMe or iCloud) as Apple Id's has a lot of peeps cross-eyed. But followers on the forum knew this going in. There are definitely some new paradigms for people to digest. This is the trend and Jobs was ahead of the curve. Roll with the bumps and see the bigger picture.
I have to agree that this new rollout is fairly confusing; I think it's most in part because iCloud requires integration from applications. We don't get a little dropbox to use, therefore we are dependent on apps to guide us to this cool new feature.
But with iTunes match coming out at the end of the month, to me it seems like to first GREAT thing of many to come with this new cloud service. I look at it as the foundation for good things to come in the future. There isn't a whole lot of use at the moment for people who used the mobile me service to it's fullest but I definitely like the direction it can go.
Here is how I see the services:
Photostream is a great new feature, I love how I can import photos into aperture and instantly have them on my other macs. I also like taking point and shoot (as crappy as the camera is) from my iphone and it's now on my ipad and macs. The 30 day limit has people confused but it's NOT a storage service, so you can't think of it as a "traditional cloud backup".
Itunes match, this is HUGE. In today's day and age you have so many people that only have a digital version of their library. Losing this library could really suck for a lot of households. Itunes match allows me to pick and choose what I want on all my macs without having to merge/sync libraries. If I owned it then Apple's cloud is now responsible for giving it to me. HD dead? No problem, re download all my music again. I look at it as a $25 fee to legitimize all the songs I obtained since 1995.
Icloud email, this one doesn't seem special to me since I had the mobile me service. Everything I did have I still have and I see no major advantage other than the icloud service is a little cleaner in regards to contacts and calendar "sync". Oh yeah, email is free too.
iCloud documents, I rarely use any type of mac word processor docs so I don't know if it includes to MS stuff too.
I would love to see a dropbox type feature in the future, then I could look at icloud as a real backup resource. Maybe someday it will integrate with time machine.
But with iTunes match coming out at the end of the month, to me it seems like to first GREAT thing of many to come with this new cloud service. I look at it as the foundation for good things to come in the future. There isn't a whole lot of use at the moment for people who used the mobile me service to it's fullest but I definitely like the direction it can go.
Here is how I see the services:
Photostream is a great new feature, I love how I can import photos into aperture and instantly have them on my other macs. I also like taking point and shoot (as crappy as the camera is) from my iphone and it's now on my ipad and macs. The 30 day limit has people confused but it's NOT a storage service, so you can't think of it as a "traditional cloud backup".
Itunes match, this is HUGE. In today's day and age you have so many people that only have a digital version of their library. Losing this library could really suck for a lot of households. Itunes match allows me to pick and choose what I want on all my macs without having to merge/sync libraries. If I owned it then Apple's cloud is now responsible for giving it to me. HD dead? No problem, re download all my music again. I look at it as a $25 fee to legitimize all the songs I obtained since 1995.
Icloud email, this one doesn't seem special to me since I had the mobile me service. Everything I did have I still have and I see no major advantage other than the icloud service is a little cleaner in regards to contacts and calendar "sync". Oh yeah, email is free too.
iCloud documents, I rarely use any type of mac word processor docs so I don't know if it includes to MS stuff too.
I would love to see a dropbox type feature in the future, then I could look at icloud as a real backup resource. Maybe someday it will integrate with time machine.
First of all, buggy as hell? Not a chance. iOS 5 has restored my iPhone 4 to 4.0 quality performance after the debacle that was 4.2 to 4.3.5.
iCloud DOES make our lives easier, because no matter what you do on one of your devices, you know you don't need to do a thing to get that content on the rest of them. I think you're over thinking and over analysing things a bit too much.
I take photos on my iPhone while out and about, I come home and they're waiting for me in iPhoto. No need to connect the iPhone to the computer, no need to sync, no need to transfer. They're just there waiting.
I buy an app on my iPad in the living room, it's made available to my wife upstairs using her iPhone, again no syncing or connecting to the computer required.
If I'm upstairs on the Mac and want to add a contact to my iPhone, I just log into http://www.iCloud.com, go to the Contacts app, enter the details, and the contact is automatically pushed to my phone downstairs, waiting for me.
iMessage, the phone itself detects if the contact you've selected is running iOS 5 and changes the colour from green to blue to signify iMessage. No set up required.
It's incredibly intuitive because there's nothing new to learn.
The iPhone used to be idiot (or Grandma) proof. You could just use it. Not so much with iCloud. It is not intuitive and took a few days to figure out. I still couldn't find a way to sync my old iPhone 4 notes to my iPhone 4S. I had to make new notes, which synced.
I think Apple got ahead of themselves here. They are excellent when they slowly introduce new features, but not so much when they introduce a lot at one time. Maybe they were in panic-mode in an effort to catch up with Android? But, I really can't see the average customer using iCloud. Geez, my wife still doesn't know how to plug her iPhone into the computer to sync it. She's perfectly happy with Safari, email, Messages, and Facebook on her phone.
I think Apple got ahead of themselves here. They are excellent when they slowly introduce new features, but not so much when they introduce a lot at one time. Maybe they were in panic-mode in an effort to catch up with Android? But, I really can't see the average customer using iCloud. Geez, my wife still doesn't know how to plug her iPhone into the computer to sync it. She's perfectly happy with Safari, email, Messages, and Facebook on her phone.
