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DeanL

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Also note that my Pi 4 2GB that cost $43 on Amazon has two HDMI ports and is currently driving my 2 1440p displays without problems. Seriously. If Apple really screwed up multiple display support in clamshell mode I’m going to be extremely annoyed. And they should be extremely embarrassed.
And that's precisely what infuriates me. My cheap Lenovo laptop can do internal screen, one on HDMI and one on DisplayPort so I'm like what?
 
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wacomme

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Same ports as the base 13" it replaced, so that shouldn't be a shock.

You'll have to wait till next year if you want to run two monitors plus the built-in screen, but you may be able to run two externals in clamshell.
Is running two external monitors in clamshell known?
 

jazz1

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I cancelled my order for the exact same reasons. I ordered a Mac Mini instead.

Now, if the real life benchmarks are not good, I'll cancel that order or return it without opening the box. Instead I'll have to wait for the redesigned machines in 2021. Peferrably I want a Macbook Pro for the portability.

The Virtualization is another concern. The developer CPU did not support virtualization, but Apple suggested that the shipping CPUs would do, but that's still unclear.
I’ve got two Dell monitors. One has (among other ports) USB-C, the other HDMI, plus Display Port. I’ll have to break out the MacMini when it arrives. If for any reason these monitors don’t work, in tandem, with the M1 MacMini then back it will go. I won’t put up with any “finger pointing” from Dell or Apple. I know, new tech. is always a gamble.
 

ww1971

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Hello everyone! Just thought I would share the reasons why I cancelled my Apple Silicon MacBook Pro order.

I ordered it as soon as the store opened after the keynote, but as I read the documents, I discovered many little things that annoyed me to the point of making me wait for the next iteration:
  • The MacBook Pro M1 only supports 1 external screen using Thunderbolt. That's a huge turn off, especially during pandemic because I was just thinking of getting another UltraFine 4K.
  • There are only two Thunderbolt/USB 4 ports, versus the four on my current Mac. I'm concerned they might have bandwidth issue as well (since Apple only included 2 instead of the four on my current MacBook Pro.
  • Windows ARM virtualization is still unclear. I'm not ready yet to make the jump not knowing if/when it will arrive.
Did anyone end up cancelling their order?

id be happy to run a M1 system when the opportunity arises. I learn something new everyday
 

dmccloud

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MS doesn’t license windows 10 on arm, though. Only for their own products.

Not true. Microsoft licenses WoA to system builders, which is why both Samsung and Lenovo have released WiFi/LTE capable laptops running Snapdragon processors, including the Lenovo Mixx 630, Lenovo Yoga 5G, the HP laptop teased earlier this week, and the Galaxy Book S. This is also the biggest issue regarding the possibility of bringing WoA to the Mac, since Apple doesn't fit under Microsoft's definition of "system builder" as they do not build PCs specifically to run Windows.


 

TheFluffyDuck

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Even when that processor is faster than the Intel Macbook Pro's?

Though I'm not convinced that they should call it 'Pro' when it only supports 16GB and a single external screen. Many people need two or more large screens and a lot of memory for their work.
Faster processor is good, but if it is held back in graphics then its a bottleneck. I am impressed with the CPU, but I am waiting to see about the graphics. But I am not holding my breath.
 

DeanL

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I'd like to note that since the return period was extended to January, I ended up buying a M1 MacBook Pro to test run until January, at which point I will make my decision.
There's also chatter of Microsoft making the ARM version of Windows available so that might help my decision!
 
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