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Stuntman06

macrumors 6502a
Sep 19, 2011
961
5
Metro Vancouver, B.C, Canada
widgets are useless as well, why do i need to look at my facebook status or twitter status on a half shrunk screen while there is already an app on system which does the job properly full screen and i can open it in a few seconds.

Not all widgets are useful, just like not all apps are useful. There are good ones and bad ones. The ones you described are somewhat questionable. I'll give you some examples of what I feel are useful widgets for me.

Sometimes, the amount of info you need is small enough to only need a small portion of your screen. For instance, I have a widget that displays sports scores. It is useful to me because I mark which teams are my favourites and the widget only takes part of the screen to show the score. I can quickly glance at this information without needed to open the app. A weather widget is also useful to me as the little bit of info like current conditions is all I need to see at a glance that only takes a small portion of my screen.

The most useful widgets to me are those that enable me to control certain system settings from my home screen. For instance, to turn auto-rotate on and off, I would normally have to go into the settings and scroll through the list of settings to turn auto-rotate on or off. I have a widget that with a single tap from my home screen, I can toggle it on or off. I have another widget that changes my sound profile from my home screen. With a single tap, I can turn off all notification sounds, while leaving my ringer in low volume and my alarm sound on. I use this when I go to sleep, so I am not disturbed when I get an email, but the alarm will still wake me. When I wake up, I tap the widget again to increase the various sounds to a normal level. When I go out I tap the widget to turn the volumes up higher as I will be in a noisier environment. To do this manually would take many taps of the screen in the settings.

These aspect of Android phones do take some time to configure. I find that being able to configure my phone this way, makes certain functions more convenient for me in the long run.
 

UKBeast

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Jan 21, 2010
626
53
Turkey
Not all widgets are useful, just like not all apps are useful. There are good ones and bad ones. The ones you described are somewhat questionable. I'll give you some examples of what I feel are useful widgets for me.

Sometimes, the amount of info you need is small enough to only need a small portion of your screen. For instance, I have a widget that displays sports scores. It is useful to me because I mark which teams are my favourites and the widget only takes part of the screen to show the score. I can quickly glance at this information without needed to open the app. A weather widget is also useful to me as the little bit of info like current conditions is all I need to see at a glance that only takes a small portion of my screen.

The most useful widgets to me are those that enable me to control certain system settings from my home screen. For instance, to turn auto-rotate on and off, I would normally have to go into the settings and scroll through the list of settings to turn auto-rotate on or off. I have a widget that with a single tap from my home screen, I can toggle it on or off. I have another widget that changes my sound profile from my home screen. With a single tap, I can turn off all notification sounds, while leaving my ringer in low volume and my alarm sound on. I use this when I go to sleep, so I am not disturbed when I get an email, but the alarm will still wake me. When I wake up, I tap the widget again to increase the various sounds to a normal level. When I go out I tap the widget to turn the volumes up higher as I will be in a noisier environment. To do this manually would take many taps of the screen in the settings.

These aspect of Android phones do take some time to configure. I find that being able to configure my phone this way, makes certain functions more convenient for me in the long run.


I am pretty sure you can find an app that gives you the scores and it will only waste a few more seconds to you. Because you open an app on ios in less than 3 taps. Besides, usually minimal information is not enough when you see the 2 row info on screen you generally want to open the full open get more info which ends up at the same point.

For the rotation thing, there is a button on my ipad. Its better with button.

I love widgets on Mac Os X it saves me time and helps me to see all in one screen but not on my mobile.
 

LeandrodaFL

macrumors 6502a
Apr 6, 2011
973
1
android is great for phones...its ok right? iOs is too much for me, I just need a phone that makes calls and ocasionally use an app

for tablets Android sucks, as iOs is way superior
 

daveathall

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2010
2,379
1,410
North Yorkshire
I am pretty sure you can find an app that gives you the scores and it will only waste a few more seconds to you. Because you open an app on ios in less than 3 taps. Besides, usually minimal information is not enough when you see the 2 row info on screen you generally want to open the full open get more info which ends up at the same point.

For the rotation thing, there is a button on my ipad. Its better with button.

I love widgets on Mac Os X it saves me time and helps me to see all in one screen but not on my mobile.

I have to come to the conclusion that for you, there is nothing whatsoever good in Android, and nothing whatsoever bad in iOS, not once in any of your posts have you deviated from that stance. I find that incredible.
 

UKBeast

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Jan 21, 2010
626
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Turkey
I have to come to the conclusion that for you, there is nothing whatsoever good in Android, and nothing whatsoever bad in iOS, not once in any of your posts have you deviated from that stance. I find that incredible.

Yes, definitely.

But ios could be better, could be more developed.
 

daveathall

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2010
2,379
1,410
North Yorkshire
Yes, definitely.

But ios could be better, could be more developed.

In that case the discussion, as far as I am concerned is closed, your admitted bias negates anything that you have contributed, it also must be a possibility that the only reason you started the thread was for an argument. You know the word.

I'm finished with this thread.
 

UKBeast

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Jan 21, 2010
626
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Turkey
In that case the discussion, as far as I am concerned is closed, your admitted bias negates anything that you have contributed, it also must be a possibility that the only reason you started the thread was for an argument. You know the word.

I'm finished with this thread.

Bias ? no way..

The thread was about why i do not like android and get opinion from people about why they do or why do not like.

And some people told their stories..
 

SurferMan

macrumors 65816
May 14, 2010
1,267
51
South FL
Bias ? no way..
uhhhh did you read anything you posted or said? You were about as anti-android as possible, most of what you posted made no sense, but it is your opinion. You don't have to customize or anything, both OSs are basically the same stock, right down to the function of icons. You swipe home screens in iOS - you swipe homescreens in Android (difference being you can delete Android homescreens for a more simple minimalist look which if anything should be an Apple thing considering their all about being simple and minimal lol), you make a call you press the phone icon on both, contacts same, browser same, folders same, pulldown notifications pretty similar though Android still has the edge and function in the notification window. Want to play a game, click whatever game icon you want on both. Core functionality is essentially the same one both, the only big difference stock is if you so choose to do so Android gives you the option of customizing further whether launcher, or different icons, or hiding certain apps in the drawer to keep a simple look (again something Apple should be the one doing but their not, iOS you have apps and folders everywhere). But you don't have to do so, the option is just there if you want to, you can use the phone exactly how it came.

So how exactly is iOS so much better in that sense? I can see how someone could prefer iTunes and the whole eco system if their tied in, personally to me it doesn't matter even though I have a bunch of Apple products.

It is your opinion and everyone is entitled to one, even a very biased one. I have both OS, have used iphones since 07'. And pretty much disagree with much of what you've said. I prefer Android now even though I was anti-Android before, sure I have a custom Rom that's blazing fast and smooth, no issues, even slightly better battery life then my 4 (i.e. much better than our 4S)... but even if I had left it stock I would still be happy.

Your obviously also very against customizing even iOS, but hey it's your prerogative. What you find to be a waste of time, myself and others don't. The customized things I've done to iOS make it more efficient for use whether personal or business, apps and things Apple should have done in the 1st place or implemented by now since their mantra is "simple".
 

nickchallis92

macrumors 6502a
Mar 4, 2012
906
469
London
I am pretty sure you can find an app that gives you the scores and it will only waste a few more seconds to you. Because you open an app on ios in less than 3 taps. Besides, usually minimal information is not enough when you see the 2 row info on screen you generally want to open the full open get more info which ends up at the same point.

For the rotation thing, there is a button on my ipad. Its better with button.

I love widgets on Mac Os X it saves me time and helps me to see all in one screen but not on my mobile.

Nah I can see his point. Let's say Charlton are playing away and I can't make the game, then having a live score on my homescreen would be great. If it scrolled through local rivals' scores too then that would be useful.

P.S i've tried out iOS and can't see the fuss. It's the most frustrating OS ever on the basis it doesn't do anything well. It relies on apps to make it remotely useful, and even then Apple refuses to let them integrate properly
 

UKBeast

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Jan 21, 2010
626
53
Turkey
uhhhh did you read anything you posted or said? You were about as anti-android as possible, most of what you posted made no sense, but it is your opinion. You don't have to customize or anything, both OSs are basically the same stock, right down to the function of icons. You swipe home screens in iOS - you swipe homescreens in Android (difference being you can delete Android homescreens for a more simple minimalist look which if anything should be an Apple thing considering their all about being simple and minimal lol), you make a call you press the phone icon on both, contacts same, browser same, folders same, pulldown notifications pretty similar though Android still has the edge and function in the notification window. Want to play a game, click whatever game icon you want on both. Core functionality is essentially the same one both, the only big difference stock is if you so choose to do so Android gives you the option of customizing further whether launcher, or different icons, or hiding certain apps in the drawer to keep a simple look (again something Apple should be the one doing but their not, iOS you have apps and folders everywhere). But you don't have to do so, the option is just there if you want to, you can use the phone exactly how it came.

So how exactly is iOS so much better in that sense? I can see how someone could prefer iTunes and the whole eco system if their tied in, personally to me it doesn't matter even though I have a bunch of Apple products.

It is your opinion and everyone is entitled to one, even a very biased one. I have both OS, have used iphones since 07'. And pretty much disagree with much of what you've said. I prefer Android now even though I was anti-Android before, sure I have a custom Rom that's blazing fast and smooth, no issues, even slightly better battery life then my 4 (i.e. much better than our 4S)... but even if I had left it stock I would still be happy.

Your obviously also very against customizing even iOS, but hey it's your prerogative. What you find to be a waste of time, myself and others don't. The customized things I've done to iOS make it more efficient for use whether personal or business, apps and things Apple should have done in the 1st place or implemented by now since their mantra is "simple".

I think you did not understand my point, what i am saying is the main advantage and reason why people get android is its customizability features and i told why i do not find it useful. Ios is better on stock than an android on stock. It is still more easy and practical.

If i wanted to customize it deeply i would get an android. Otherwise, for stock usage it is not good.
 

Dontazemebro

macrumors 68020
Jul 23, 2010
2,173
0
I dunno, somewhere in West Texas
How is it "not good"?

The same core functions that you find in iOS are in android, but you get even more.

Just from reading your posts, u sound like a troll. That combined with your poor sentence structure. ZOMG!! TEH ANDROIDS SUUCKS.

PS. - maybe English is not your native language, if so, I apologize in advance. Just being blatantly honest because that's how you come across.
 

UKBeast

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Jan 21, 2010
626
53
Turkey
How is it "not good"?

The same core functions that you find in iOS are in android, but you get even more.

Just from reading your posts, u sound like a troll. That combined with your poor sentence structure. ZOMG!! TEH ANDROIDS SUUCKS.

PS. - maybe English is not your native language, if so, I apologize in advance. Just being blatantly honest because that's how you come across.

English is not my native language, I learnt it in school.

The core functions are more complicated on android. It does work on a way that is complicated than ios. I like the minimalist design and ui of it, certainly android extras are useless for me and those given extras are sacrifice the minimalist way of perception.

ios is giving the maximum with minimum.
 

sarcosis

macrumors 6502a
Apr 25, 2006
591
8
These United States
English is not my native language, I learnt it in school.

The core functions are more complicated on android. It does work on a way that is complicated than ios. I like the minimalist design and ui of it, certainly android extras are useless for me and those given extras are sacrifice the minimalist way of perception.

ios is giving the maximum with minimum.

So how are they more complicated on Android? That's what I don't understand. To turn my Bluetooth on on Android, I can stick a widget on my home screen, press it and be done with it. With iOS5, I've got to dig through settings menu. And if you don't count that a core function, i don't know what you would less you start to dig through to the code level. BTW, what is the most recent Android Phone you used?
 
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Dontazemebro

macrumors 68020
Jul 23, 2010
2,173
0
I dunno, somewhere in West Texas
English is not my native language, I learnt it in school.

The core functions are more complicated on android. It does work on a way that is complicated than ios. I like the minimalist design and ui of it, certainly android extras are useless for me and those given extras are sacrifice the minimalist way of perception.

ios is giving the maximum with minimum.

Okay, sorry about that. I initially thought you were doing it intentionally to be obnoxious.

As for the core functions being more complicated. I disagree. Now out the box might be a little tenuous, but android as an OS is designed to fit your needs. Maybe you should spend a little more time getting to know how it really works before you knock it.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
I do not find widgets necessary, it basically shows what you already can see on apps installed. You can open the weather app in a few clicks, widgets does not make sense to have it on the home screen.

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I had it for a week, did not like it :)

In a few clicks I can call someone and ask what the weather forecast is going to be on a dumb phone. Technically in less clicks then I can open the weather app on my iPhone.

Why anyone would think an icon that always says the 73 and sunny is the best way is beyond me. How does fake weather make MORE sense then actual weather?

Here is the most amazing part of widgets, you don't need to use them! Why would anyone not want something you don't have to use? I bought a bottle of scotch the other day and I got a nice Rocky Patel cigar with it, I don't typically smoke cigars but I certainly wasn't upset I got something I don't use.

I use the email widgets too. Just a small block to see the inbox. Right now I have an email from discover card that's not worth checking. Meanwhile my iPhone has an annoying red dot telling me basically it needs further input from me be it opening the email app or pulling down the half assed notification window.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
I am pretty sure you can find an app that gives you the scores and it will only waste a few more seconds to you. Because you open an app on ios in less than 3 taps. Besides, usually minimal information is not enough when you see the 2 row info on screen you generally want to open the full open get more info which ends up at the same point.

For the rotation thing, there is a button on my ipad. Its better with button.

I love widgets on Mac Os X it saves me time and helps me to see all in one screen but not on my mobile.

:rolleyes: Why dont you just say you love widgets....as long as they are Apples widgets. You are not convincing at all and make little sense,.... and why would your friend let you have his new phone for a week? I doubt you had it for a week and only used that.

OK, so you dont like Android. Who cares! Your thread was lame and gave me the feeling i was reading Dr Suess.
 

Stuntman06

macrumors 6502a
Sep 19, 2011
961
5
Metro Vancouver, B.C, Canada
I am pretty sure you can find an app that gives you the scores and it will only waste a few more seconds to you. Because you open an app on ios in less than 3 taps. Besides, usually minimal information is not enough when you see the 2 row info on screen you generally want to open the full open get more info which ends up at the same point.

Minimal information is enough in some instances. It depends on the application and the information. There are a lot of really bad or useless widgets out there. I think too many developers just decide to build widgets just for the sake of having a widget. I use very few widgets, but those I find are very useful to me.

For the rotation thing, there is a button on my ipad. Its better with button.

I have never needed to toggle the auto-rotate on my tablet. When I use my tablet, I am never lying down and looking at it sideways. I need the auto-rotate toggle on my phone. When I wake up in the morning, I usually read stuff while still lying on my side in bed. I turn off the auto-rotate, read for a while and then get up. The rest of the day, I want auto-rotate on because I use the landscape keyboard when typing or I may want to look at a video full screen in landscape mode. For many other things, I would do in portrait mode.

An auto-rotate toggle on a phone would be a nice feature. That way, I don't need to go to the home screen all the time to turn it off. Also, on occasion, I have used someone's iPhone and I turn it on its side to use the keyboard. It's annoying when they have auto-rotate off and I am stuck with using the portrait keyboard as I don't like the hassle of going into the setting to change it and change it back when I'm done.

I love widgets on Mac Os X it saves me time and helps me to see all in one screen but not on my mobile.

It's funny. I'm the total opposite. I find that widgets on a PC is totally useless to me, but very useful on mobile devices.
 
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