I like these fluff threads. Yes, we can draw a complete campaign and business model from a video. I suppose it makes sense since many these days can barely write a thought in a complete sentence as the text on their cell phones. - Sigh
He was quite far from a nobody. Certainly many people might not know about all kinds of things or people, it certainly doesn't make those things or people inconsequential or easy to manipulate somehow.I never knew who Tim Cook was and for a reason... he was nobody. Many times in organizations you will see a "nobody" on top, easy to manipulate.
It seems to be a plausible observation....Many times in organizations you will see a "nobody" on top, easy to manipulate.
Well a flip flop would be saying something like I hate iPhone 6/6s, then tomorrow saying I love it, then next week saying I hate it again. I'm consistent on individual products and services. It's not all or nothing for me, each item gets an individual look in and individual assessment. Maybe I should cheer more, but others here are cheering. I also think my efforts are better focused on narrowing in on the issues as I view them to be.I saw that post, but given the tone, content and veracity of how you criticize apple, its hard to think you're not flip flopping and contradicting yourself quite a bit.
He may have an understanding of Apple and he may not. My point is that you communicated that you came to this realization based on a 4 minute video in which he sat there without uttering a word. To be honest, coming to any realization of someone's grasp of any topic of just sitting there is preposterous.
This is why instructors grade students on how well they interact in class (either verbally or in written form) and they cannot come to a determination that a student understand the material without feedback from that student. Like wise we have Cook who just sits there, but you propose based on that video you realize he gets all of apple's magical qualities.
Plus in prior posts you try to justify your position by saying issues that you have with Apple are not Cook's fault or decisions. But they are, as he's in charge of Apple, don't you think he's the one to give final approval of making a phone thinner, or selling a MBP with a haswell chipset in 2016? You cannot praise him for all the good Apple has done, and not consider him responsible for the mis-steps Apple has also done.
I agree to a point, his performance has been steady, but many people expect more from apple, not just more of the same.
Wall street would definitely react negatively, but if they had someone in mind to bring Apple to the next level, it could actually be better. Take Microsoft - Ballmer didn't do a horrible job as CEO, though he was a buffoon in many people's eyes (and he made some significant missteps such as buying Nokia), yet under Nadella MS has improved and flousihed significantly. While Apple is a different company and facing different issues, I use MS to illustrate that changing of a CEO is not always a bad thing.
...ITim is completely fit for the position. He is much a different CEO than Jobs, but just as capable...
Well if you type that, you must follow it up with who does =Tim Cook ≠ Steve Jobs.
Nope. Your post #54 (action) ⇨ my post #55 (reaction).Well if you type that, you must follow it up with who does =
And my reply is a followup reaction. Okay, case closed if that's your preference but you've left the question unanswered at #55.Nope. Your post #54 (action) ⇨ my post #55 (reaction).
Case closed.
It seems to be a plausible observation.
I might be wrong, but somehow I have a (strong) feeling that Ive can influence Cook the way he wants.
Agreed, I've never seen anyone say Cook and Jobs were on equal footing in what (and how) they ran apple.Tim Cook ≠ Steve Jobs.
So far no one. Just because Cook is no Steve Jobs, means there is someone else out there who is. There may be other gifted visionaries who can lead apple in a better way then cook, but they would never be another Steve Jobs.Well if you type that, you must follow it up with who does =
Agreed, I've never seen anyone say Cook and Jobs were on equal footing in what (and how) they ran apple.
So far no one. Just because Cook is no Steve Jobs, means there is someone else out there who is. There may be other gifted visionaries who can lead apple in a better way then cook, but they would never be another Steve Jobs.
Compare the social/charitable/political aspect of Cook's Apple vs. Job's Apple. There's quite a difference between the two, just on that one point. Also consider how Cook treats people and interacts with them, vs. Jobs where there were many reports of him bringing people to tears.
To bring it to a finer point, Jobs was a visionary, who got people to excel and do things they themselves didn't think was possible, but was not always the nicest, where as Cook focuses more on the dollars and cents of things and making sure apple can be as profitable as possible.
I also think my efforts are better focused on narrowing in on the issues as I view them to be.
I think it is a little naive to suggest that not one Apple employee reads the forums to gauge sentiment or derive feedback. Considering controlled leaks to sites like these are important to manufacturers like Apple, there would be at the very least a small team dedicated to online research of forums like these.Do you seriously think that your efforts in calling Apple out on bad products/services on this forum on being read, interpreted and analyzed by Apple employees? If that's the case, I'm afraid I've got some bad news...
All companies have social media departments to analyze the internet streams. And I do think some of what is said here can be really constructive ideas that IMO apple does implement as it sees consistent feedback across sources. But I would think it would tend to ignore the "bashing" of the arm-chair CEO types, who know how to run the company better than the management team.I think it is a little naive to suggest that not one Apple employee reads the forums to gauge sentiment or derive feedback. Considering controlled leaks to sites like these are important to manufacturers like Apple, there would be at the very least a small team dedicated to online research of forums like these.
I think it is a little naive to suggest that not one Apple employee reads the forums to gauge sentiment or derive feedback. Considering controlled leaks to sites like these are important to manufacturers like Apple, there would be at the very least a small team dedicated to online research of forums like these.
Sorry, maybe I read your reply incorrectly. That said, I really don't think my time is wasted posting here. I'm pretty certain about that. With respect, maybe your time might be better spent not telling me what I should post or when I should be posting. I can walk and chew gum.I never suggested employees don't ready the posts/comments section... heck Macrumors even posts stats showing new versions of iOS access the site before they are released to developers for testing. But if you think Apple cares about your specific feedback (which, based off of responses, few - if anyone - agrees with your views) then you are wasting your time. Especially when you mentioned you "I have two businesses, both with an R&D department. I participate in both." - wouldn't your time be better spent serving those ventures?
Sorry, maybe I read your reply incorrectly. That said, I really don't think my time is wasted posting here. I'm pretty certain about that. With respect, maybe your time might be better spent not telling me what I should post or when I should be posting. I can walk and chew gum.
Cheerio and good day.Again, never said your posts are a waste of time, I said your feedback. Two mutually exclusive things. There have been things you could do through jailbreaking your iPhone since the 3GS came out that Apple only recently released as a built in iOS feature. If they were truly listening to Macrumors members and reading threads on this site, those changes would have/should have happened sooner. These aren't earth shattering things - such as having a built in flashlight app or responding to texts from the lock screen.
I was simply providing a suggestion.
Cheers
There may very well be a social media team, but I highly doubt Apple has employees who's job is to read and interact with members at MacRumors. From what I know, Apple actually wants you to avoid these places when you start working for them.I think it is a little naive to suggest that not one Apple employee reads the forums to gauge sentiment or derive feedback. Considering controlled leaks to sites like these are important to manufacturers like Apple, there would be at the very least a small team dedicated to online research of forums like these.
There may very well be a social media team, but I highly doubt Apple has employees who's job is to read and interact with members at MacRumors. From what I know, Apple actually wants you to avoid these places when you start working for them.
Posting Apple's short comings, with the idea that they'll hear you and alter their directions is fairly naive. If you feel strongly about something, then tell them directly. http://www.apple.com/feedback/
I'm not inconsistent. When I see a product or service I think is terrible from a highly resourced company such as Apple, I make it known, just like I applaud them when something great is made available. I can both like and dislike aspects of Apple. I dislike iPhone 6/6s because it is a product that has many compromises built into the design from the exterior into the interior. But I support Tim Cook because under his leadership aspects of Apple have been great even though other aspects have been poor. I base my discussions on the merits of the items being discussed, I'm not an Apple fan boy but I'm not an Apple hater either. My comments are more nuanced than that.
Please see my justification earlier to help reconcile the comments https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/why-i-have-confidence-in-tim-cook.1987998/page-2#post-23244454
Tim has a great understanding of why Apple is special, he has been there since 1998.
My greatest issue, in light of no real reason for Tim to go, if Tim were to be replaced, I think we would see Apple become destabilised -- that would be worse than any little complaint I or others might have.