Why I will never go Android again

[daveathall]

Number one, the phone is GIGANTIC which to some is obviously one of the selling factors and was for me before I bought it.

I must admit that at first I thought the S3 was gigantic also, however, after a couple of hours I sort of thought that it was about the right size. I took some photos of the difference in size, the iPhone 5 is on top of the S3, TBH, there isn't much in it, certainly a lot less than most claim.

 

[onthecouchagain]

The thinness of the S3 also makes it surprisingly easy to reach across the screen. At times I even thought it was slightly easier than my Galaxy Nexus, which is fat comparatively.

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

iOS has always felt fully baked.

Really? Before Siri, it didn't have voice commands. I couldn't write a text message with it. One of the reasons I went with Android in the first place. Then there was the notifications. Now they have copied Android and made them nice. But if Android had never been around, you'd probably still be dealing with pop up notifications only.

Android just doesn't feel nearly as done.

In the earlier versions I would agree, but the OS feels pretty mature now. I like that they go in and revise the look and feel once in awhile. To me, an iPhone's home screen has always looked child-like. Like a "my first phone" from Fisher Price. I wish they would make it more sophisticated and not so cartoony. I think they could do better here.

You can disagree, it's just something I've always felt. I can't stand the app scene, and Google just pushes so many half-assed services and products. They start projects and then scrap them.

Oh..you mean things like Like Mobile Me and Ping?

 

[Markyboy81]

Oh..you mean things like Like Mobile Me and Ping?

And maps...

 

[zbarvian]

Android got multitouch back in like 2008. Thats a dumb point. It was designed for it since the beginning. Apple just bullied them into not enabling it at first.

Android didn't get official multitouch until 2.1. Android was originally designed for a blackberry form factor with no touch screen.

 

[thejadedmonkey]

Android didn't get official multitouch until 2.1. Android was originally designed for a blackberry form factor with no touch screen.

Yeah, but any programmer worth half their salary can switch up a UI without much effort. Look at Sony/Samsung/HTC/Motorola with their own UI's. The real genius of Android is its underpinnings.

Heck, look at Windows Phone. It looks completely different from Windows Mobile, but the OS kernel is the same between Windows Phone 7 and Windows Mobile 6.

If I recall correctly, the Linux kernel is a monolithic kernel while iOS uses a hybrid kernel. If you really want to talk about differences, that's a huge one as it supports everything else that the OS does.

 

[tbayrgs]

Remember when Android didn't even have multitouch or a touch keyboard? Don't even get started on that route, bud.

And consistent? Go look through the Play Store. iOS undoubtedly has better designers/developers, IMO.

You need to learn to when you look foolish that it's probably best to stop talking.

Thats my point. It isnt fully baked and your fine with it while calling another not fully baked. One might even say your statement is hypocritical.

Here is the camera problem
with accompaning article

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We all know how you like to pile on iOS so this post doesn't surprise me but it's complete nonsense and you know it. This is a well documented problem with all sorts of cameras, not unique to the iPhone. Funny how you didn't post a link to this article which actually provides a small amount of useful info but then, that wouldn't have served your purpose would it.

But go ahead and keep on hating if it makes you feel better.

 

[Vegastouch]

Remember when Android didn't even have multitouch or a touch keyboard? Don't even get started on that route, bud.

And consistent? Go look through the Play Store. iOS undoubtedly has better designers/developers, IMO.

You know, im starting to think you are clouded by just being a fan of Apple than being open minded because the Apple app store imo isnt any better than the Android play store. It just isnt. Thats just a BS statement as many of the same developers also have their apps in the play store.
Apple has those 400,000 apps that have never been downloaded though. Its always nice to have those in there.

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You need to learn to when you look foolish that it's probably best to stop talking.



We all know how you like to pile on iOS so this post doesn't surprise me but it's complete nonsense and you know it. This is a well documented problem with all sorts of cameras, not unique to the iPhone. Funny how you didn't post a link to this article which actually provides a small amount of useful info but then, that wouldn't have served your purpose would it.

But go ahead and keep on hating if it makes you feel better.

Pile on? Bro i have said many good things about iOS and the iPhone. I have Apple products. Im not a hater but i will point out BS when i see it and him saying iPhone is fully baked and is better than the half baked... blah, blah blah as if the iPhone has no problems when it has huge issues with Maps and that camera problem...in which those are two very big features of the phone....ill call a hypocrite a hypocrite.

As for that article you posted, ..obviously i never saw it so how could i post it?

Guys like zbarvian who cant acknowledge those things are just ....well, there is a word for guys like him. Starts with a F and ends in Y. No system is perfect so man up and admit it.

 

[Oletros]

Android didn't get official multitouch until 2.1. Android was originally designed for a blackberry form factor with no touch screen.

Please, this debunked history another time?

Android was developed hardware agnostic and it had non touch (and they weere WM like, not Blackberry like) and only touch prototypes

 

[tbayrgs]

You know, im starting to think you are clouded by just being a fan of Apple than being open minded because the Apple app store imo isnt any better than the Android play store. It just isnt. Thats just a BS statement as many of the same developers also have their apps in the play store.
Apple has those 400,000 apps that have never been downloaded though. Its always nice to have those in there.

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Pile on? Bro i have said many good things about iOS and the iPhone. I have Apple products. Im not a hater but i will point out BS when i see it and him saying iPhone is fully baked and is better than the half baked... blah, blah blah as if the iPhone has no problems when it has huge issues with Maps and that camera problem...in which those are two very big features of the phone....ill call a hypocrite a hypocrite.

As for that article you posted, ..obviously i never saw it so how could i post it?

Guys like zbarvian who cant acknowledge those things are just ....well, there is a word for guys like him. Starts with a F and ends in Y. No system is perfect so man up and admit it.

Didn't see it? Fine, if you say so (even though it's on the Macrumors front page ).

And I completely agree about zbarvian--blind fanboys of all varieties, Apple, Android, whatever, drive me nuts. Just don't stoop to his level and stick with relevant facts and info.

 

[Vegastouch]

Didn't see it? Fine, if you say so (even though it's on the Macrumors front page ).

And I completely agree about zbarvian--blind fanboys of all varieties, Apple, Android, whatever, drive me nuts. Just don't stoop to his level and stick with relevant facts and info.

I dont go to Macrumors front page and you shouldnt assume i do. The article i posted i got from the Pulse app. I use that and Flipboard.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

I always hear people moaning about Apple dropping support for older devices. Spare a thought for those on Android.
The HTC One V has a 1ghz Single core CPU. My Desire is a 1ghz Snapdragon.

The HTC Desire has slightly MORE RAM than the One V. Yet the One V runs Android 4.03

Why am I still on 2.2?.

I am just going to point out the HTC Desire can not run ICS due to the lack of an internal SD card. In theory it could be done but it runs a huge risk of bricking your phone upgrading to it.

Also HTC Desire as the same amount of ram as the HTC One V (512)

Now I would say you have a very valid case for it not being updated to Gingerbread and I agree HTC argument for why they did not do it is weak at best but as I said before the Desire can not run ICS at all.

Also you are getting caught into the Mhz myth. The HTC One V CPU is faster . The Snapdragon chip in the desire was middle of the road when the phone came out.

 

[madden]

iOS has always felt fully baked.

Really? Like when iOS was first released and it didn't support 3G, it didn't support multitasking, it didn't support 3rd party apps, you couldn't copy or paste text, you couldn't attach arbitrary files to emails, it didn't support MMS, it didn't support Exchange push email, it didn't have a customizable home screen, it didn't support tethering, it hid the filesystem from users, it didn't support editing Office documents, it didn't support voice dialing.

There were dumb phones that could do many of these things back then. The simple fact is that with each update, iOS is STILL playing catch up and adding features Android phones have had for years. iOS isnt even fully baked now.

 

[1member1]

I couldn't agree more. I had couple of friends moving to android.
since day 1 they became a PC technician. they were so obsesive with ROMS and all the customization and they spent all day long on switching them.

Like 5 month after they still do it.

There are couple of nice things in android i wish I had in iOS 6 but I wouldnt even try it until android won't be half baked product.

There are more reasons for me for this was one of the biggest.

 

[Dave.UK]

I couldn't agree more. I had couple of friends moving to android.
since day 1 they became a PC technician. they were so obsesive with ROMS and all the customization and they spent all day long on switching them.

Like 5 month after they still do it.

There are couple of nice things in android i wish I had in iOS 6 but I wouldnt even try it until android won't be half baked product.

There are more reasons for me for this was one of the biggest.

You wont try Android because two of your friends enjoy customising their phones? Thats got to be one of the wosrt excuses ive ever heard!

You do realise that you DONT have to root/install roms with Android? Just like you dont have to jailbreak ios!

I love all this talk of "half baked" - Please enlighten me as to what you believe is half baked about Android?

 

[SlCKB0Y]

The HTC Desire has slightly MORE RAM than the One V. Yet the One V runs Android 4.03

Why am I still on 2.2?

The HTC desire hasn't got the latest versions of Android running on it because of the small ROM size, not RAM.

If you really cared about updating that much you would have just done it yourself. A guy at my work is running a Jelly Bean rom with zero issues... it works fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=628

Personally, I'll only buy Nexus devices.

 

[Oletros]

There are couple of nice things in android i wish I had in iOS 6 but I wouldnt even try it until android won't be half baked product.

What is half backed?

 

[daveathall]

I couldn't agree more. I had couple of friends moving to android.
since day 1 they became a PC technician. they were so obsesive with ROMS and all the customization and they spent all day long on switching them.

Like 5 month after they still do it.

There are couple of nice things in android i wish I had in iOS 6 but I wouldnt even try it until android won't be half baked product.

There are more reasons for me for this was one of the biggest.

This is one of the things that IMHO are misrepresented. From the box one needs to do nothing but normal set up of e mails etc, the same as an iPhone. If one wants to use it without any tinkering thats fine, it works that way, but it also gives the option (if one wants) to have a tinker, Im not talking about flashing or ROM either. One can change the launcher, the icons, apply widgets, change the e mail or messaging app or whatever, but it doesn't need to be done, one has that choice. I am not technically gifted or very computer literate, but really enjoy the way I can customise my phone, but that doesn't mean that I am constantly at it.

 

[paulsalter]

I don't understand why people keep saying the option to put a custom rom on android is a bad thing

It's like me saying that I dont like iOS because jailbreaking sounds too complicated

Android works out the box, custom rom/rooting if you want to do it
iOS works out the box, jailbreak if you want

 

[daveathall]

I don't understand why people keep saying the option to put a custom rom on android is a bad thing

It's like me saying that I dont like iOS because jailbreaking sounds too complicated

Android works out the box, custom rom/rooting if you want to do it
iOS works out the box, jailbreak if you want

I agree, although I have not done so on mine, the option (as is Jalbreaking on an iPhone) is there. I possibly never made that clear on my post just above yours.

 

[Woodcrest64]

I do love my Samsung S2 LTE and I'm comfortable installing roms. I have Jelly Bean already on it and I can see my self using this for another 2 years. You are correct though in that the fragmentation does cause problems with getting the latest updates. iOS updates are incredibly easy to do and quite frequent compared to Android. You also get them as soon as Apple releases them.

I'm not sure if I will go back to the iPhone after I'm tired with my S2 LTE or not. My only complaint with my S2 LTE is I have to use double twist to sync my music and if I want to buy a song here in Canada via iTunes I have to have my phone connected to my Macbook. I thought I would use widgets a lot when I got my Galaxy S2 but the only one I use is the weather APP and power control widget. I don't like a lot of clutter on my screen and I prefer just to go into the APP rather than using a widget.

What I do really like about the Android platform is I can get access to the file system, download files via the web browser like a normal computer and have more user control over the operating system. The killer feature though for me is the navigation system along with google maps. Hopefully in the next year or two Apple Maps will be much better than what is today.

My wife on the other hand loves her 3Gs and I will end up getting her an iPhone 5 early next year. She doesn't want to leave the Apple ecosystem because if its simplicity and she has so much stuff already in it.

Nice thing with having competition is us consumers have a choice

 

[Vetvito]

^ you still use wires to connect your phone?

Use mifile , or any of the other gazillion apps to wireless transfer your files using wifi.

 

[lunaoso]

Really? Before Siri, it didn't have voice commands. I couldn't write a text message with it. One of the reasons I went with Android in the first place. Then there was the notifications. Now they have copied Android and made them nice. But if Android had never been around, you'd probably still be dealing with pop up notifications only.

Actually, iOS did have voice commands before Siri, just not as good as Siri obviously. You could use it for music and calling people though.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

I don't understand why people keep saying the option to put a custom rom on android is a bad thing

It's like me saying that I dont like iOS because jailbreaking sounds too complicated

Android works out the box, custom rom/rooting if you want to do it
iOS works out the box, jailbreak if you want

yeah that is my though. Hell I find it funny that they seem to think you HAVE to put a custom rom on your phone. Sorry but nope. MOst people do not. I have zero interest in putting a custom rom on my Galaxy Nexus. Hell I have not even bothered rooting it yet. Now I do need to get around to rooting it but I just do not have the motivation to do it and there really not much I use that requires root. THe biggest thing I am missing is the ad blocking software I ran.

 

[DJTaurus]

One Android User's iPhone App Envy
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2410275,00.asp