Fair point, tis still a nearly two year old thread though, a more recent thread would have validated your discussion point further. I have no need to do a search as I have not had that problem.
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Why I will never go Android again
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Fair point, tis still a nearly two year old thread though, a more recent thread would have validated your discussion point further. I have no need to do a search as I have not had that problem.
Ain't that the truth...
Say it ain't so... you know Apple wouldn't do such.
Bottom line... and I own several iPhones now, you basically BUY an Android powered phone and it becomes yours. If you buy an iPhone, you're really just kinda borrowing it from your older sibling cause you can't change anything about it and have the sibling (Apple) approve of it. And now with iOS 6, the sibling has remote control of it and can do it like they want to.
I'm thinking of going to the S3 too. I pay all that money for a phone, I want to be the one in control and it actually be my phone. I was told one time "Apple doesn't update their OS like Windows does", uh... BS. And far as the OS on the iDevices go... iOS6, do I need to say more? You get bugs and problems with either one, iOS or Android. And far as resale, yea the iPhone will always have a higher resale value especially if you can find some idiot that doesn't know any better... you can really rip them a new one.
I agree entirely. This novelty is so understated. There is so much to customize and tweak and do with Android that once you're through all of it, it truly feels like it's your phone, unique to you not just aesthetically, but unique to how you use the phone too. Your specific calendars, widgets, toggles, lock screens, etc.
Freedom is a wonderful feeling.
Well I'm not exactly knocking Apple, like I said I own a few iPhones now, a Mac, iPod and a few other Apple goodies. I love how my iPhone just syncs right with iTunes (still hate iTunes but it's growing on me), plays so well with my Mac, my PowerBook (yea I'm little behind the times with my laptop). But...
It is kinda like that, you basically rent the iPhone cause you can't do anything to it unless you JB it and personally I hate Winterboard cause 2/3 of the themes don't ever fully work, paid or free. And I understand Apple's view on it, to keep it simple and keep it "working" it needs to remain as it was intended, designed and built. I get that... But it wouldn't kill them to let you theme the phone with Apple approved themes... or change some icons around or some colors...
Take the 4Chan app for example... you won't put that on your phone unless it's JB cause for some reason Apple won't allow it on the app store. Apple is the ruling super power of the iPhone and unless you jump ship with your iDevice in a plastic bag held by your teeth... they have the "end" control of YOUR experience.
It is kinda like that, you basically rent the iPhone cause you can't do anything to it unless you JB it and personally I hate Winterboard cause 2/3 of the themes don't ever fully work, paid or free. And I understand Apple's view on it, to keep it simple and keep it "working" it needs to remain as it was intended, designed and built. I get that... But it wouldn't kill them to let you theme the phone with Apple approved themes... or change some icons around or some colors...
Take the 4Chan app for example... you won't put that on your phone unless it's JB cause for some reason Apple won't allow it on the app store. Apple is the ruling super power of the iPhone and unless you jump ship with your iDevice in a plastic bag held by your teeth... they have the "end" control of YOUR experience.
Remembered another issue in my very buggy unfixed HTC thunderbolt.
The proximity sensor was never properly calibrated. This is a software issue that HTC nor Verizon ever cared to address. Essentially, it enables the screen too soon so that your face touches the screen and hangs up or calls someone else. Makes the phone hard to use as a phone. I tended to keep the phone away from me so it hasn't bothered me much, until I saw my mother try and use it and it was constantly hanging up.
Typical of android. Come out with a bunch of features and don't try to make it work well.
Voice recognition was very good for voice input, but for giving commands it was again buggy, hard to use and generally useless. I have found Siri an amazing and refreshing killer feature on the iPhone. I love asking Siri to navigate me to places. Getting much better at hands free.
The proximity sensor was never properly calibrated. This is a software issue that HTC nor Verizon ever cared to address. Essentially, it enables the screen too soon so that your face touches the screen and hangs up or calls someone else. Makes the phone hard to use as a phone. I tended to keep the phone away from me so it hasn't bothered me much, until I saw my mother try and use it and it was constantly hanging up.
Typical of android. Come out with a bunch of features and don't try to make it work well.
Voice recognition was very good for voice input, but for giving commands it was again buggy, hard to use and generally useless. I have found Siri an amazing and refreshing killer feature on the iPhone. I love asking Siri to navigate me to places. Getting much better at hands free.
That's what I had originally thought as well when I bought my android phones. But it turned out the opposite.
Instead of getting more control over my phone I had less. The carrier and maker both abandoned the phones soon after launch. There was no useful update. Stuck with tons of bloat ware.
ROMs to fix the issues were not available or were hard to decipher among the large number if similar ones. It was a nightmare to sort through with no easy fix and no one caring, certainly not HTC nor google nor Verizon.
ROMs require rooting. You get many similar benefits from jail breaking. But for most users, it's not worth the trouble in either case.
It was false freedom. About as much freedom as I have to fix my DVD players software.
Google had a big press event over a year ago promising updates to phones for 2 years. Yet that hasn't happened. Instead more announcements that phones will not be updated. Motorola (google itself) just renaged on a phones update. HTC promised ICS for the thunderbolt would be available in August. That was apparently untrue since it still is not available and likely will never be after almost a year since ICS release.
Why would anyone believe that the current android phones will get fixes and updates after replacement models are available. History says they likely will not be updated.
The next nexus will be amazing. The galaxy nexus already runs so good even a year later. Heck even the nexus s performs great on jellybean. Can't wait for the new one to come out with the new cortex a15 chips.
I want the next Nexus also but I refuse to buy LG products and that is looking like the next manufacturer of the Nexus, boo!
To me it just sounds like you didn't know how to use the android phones correctly. Ive been there before. I used a Droid X stock for awhile and that sucked. I just purchased a Nexus last week, easily learned how to and installed a custom rom and kernel. No bloatware, no relying on anyone to release updates or software. Everything about my phone is now on my terms.
I never really understand this. Did the phone do everything you wanted it to do at purchase? If so, whats the problem? Yes updates are nice, but you make it sound like the phone was truly awful when you bought it and only an update would fix it that never arrived.
Ive got the GS3 and I know at some point this month it will get jelly bean, however if that never happened and it stayed with ICS, I wouldnt complain as the phone runs and works exactly how I wanted it too when I bought it.
This. Plus, the Note 2 has a ton of features you will never see on a Nexus. Should be the other way around if you are the top dog. Note 2 has it beat already unless the new Nexus has some new mind blowing features no one has seen yet. Doubtful.
I think the reason I won't go to Android in the near future is because I am very concerned with design, and Android is not. Polish and UX wise, iOS and Android just aren't in the same league.
Whenever I use an Android phone, I just can't help but to feel how undercooked it is. It feels like they've just tried to tack so much on without ensuring that everything works ideally.
And nobody can match Apple's phone-making chops. The iPhone 5 is a marvel.
Whenever I use an Android phone, I just can't help but to feel how undercooked it is. It feels like they've just tried to tack so much on without ensuring that everything works ideally.
And nobody can match Apple's phone-making chops. The iPhone 5 is a marvel.
Really? besides the maps and the scuff problems that have been reported you have started these threads;
And answered this;
You still call the iPhone quote "marvel"?
You still think this about Android?
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S Voice. Slow, doesn't work when the screen is locked (rendering it useless for drivers) and the voice recognition isn't great. Seems like it was a "me too" feature rather than something Samsung actually thought hard about.
I am sure I have read about issues with Siri also, so this is not unique to Android devices
How does Androids voice recognition work, not Samsung's added bloat
Siri is in a completely different league to S Voice.
Google Voice Search is really, really good. There are advantages to GVS over Siri and vice versa. To name a few: -
- Siri supports geolocation reminders.
- Siri can launch apps (this will be coming to GVS in the future apparently).
- Siri understands relationships ("John Smith is my dad" followed by "Call my dad" -> calls "John Smith")
- GVS is faster.
- GVS reads out results to you if they are part of Google's "knowledge graph." If not, then it will just do a search for the results like Siri does.
- GVS shows images from image searches directly in the app.
There might be other advantages to each one. I'm just mentioning the ones I can think of that I've noticed in day-to-day use of each.
Good point.
I thought the phones did a lot when I bought them. Many android phones include a ton of features.
You just assume that the features will work. When a bug shows up, as a developer I naturally assume it will eventually be fixed. Instead, they don't fix it. The last update broke lte. There's no responsibility, no interest in fixing the update. I can't believe Verizon's response is to buy a new phone because its out of warranty. So much for their supposed testing. Without LTE the phone is practically useless. Even 3G is having issues.
It was so bad I had to go back and use my old Incredible. Oh yea. But I forgot. It's limited to 300mb of apps for some insane reason. How was I supposed to know about that time bomb limitation when I bought that phone?
Many of the other features that sounded neat originally just end up not that useful.
This is a big contrast to my new iPhone 5. I'm liking it more over time. Surprised that its better than I thought. Maybe it's expectations. Maybe I'm too jaded coming from my android phones from the last 3 years. Siri is much better than I thought. I'm really liking the new maps with turn by turn navigation. The Siri integration with maps is awesome. Doesn't work all the time, but when it does its a killer app.
Camera is another one. I'm sure they're better now, but the hd video on the thunderbolt was absolute junk. Stuttery. Very choppy handling change in brightness. Ended up so bad I never used it.
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Thanks or the other info, dont like voice recognition so dont use it (but should really try out Google Now)
for the above, i have no doubt this is correct, Siri is a built in feature like Google Now is on Android
S Voice is like a 3rd party add on made my Samsung
My apologies, thought I was still posting in an S3 thread
The thread title is: Why I will never go Android again
And you were talking about Android UX and OS.