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Why I will never go Android again
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You can do much more on a rooted Android than you can on a jailbroken iPhone.
That is sad. The vast majority of users don't want that sort of "fun". I bet you run Linux on your PC as well...
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Google does the same thing with the Nexus 16GB vs. 8GB.
"Google charges $50 for $7.50 worth of storage in the Nexus 7"
http://www.zdnet.com/google-charges-50-for-7-50-worth-of-storage-in-the-nexus-7-7000000790/
The iPhone 4 uses the A4 processor while the iphone 4s uses the A5 processor. I can assure you that a different processor can make a difference between something being possible to something not being possible due to hardware limitations.
I know you don't understand that but I do because I'm a developer.
I know you don't understand that but I do because I'm a developer.
Obviously. The vast majority of smartphone users utilize maybe 1% of their functionality. Those who actually have a reasonable understanding of computing always prefer Android to iOS.
Ha. I don't, but what's wrong with Linux?
yes by installing custom roms but iphone doesn't need roms since it's fast out of the box. You can use dreamboard and winterboard and cumstomize all you want on the iphone. Also there's not that many rooting apps. Being jailbroken opens you up to crap tons of apps and tweaks.
You can do a lot more than ROM's as well and they are fast out of the box. Ive had an iPhone and having it jailbroken is the only way to go IMO if you own an iPhone but JB'ing dont hold a candle to what you can do to a rooted Android.
JB'ing an iPhone really just catches you up to doing things Android has been doing for years...unrooted.
[off topic] I just want to to know why do we always see junk threads like this in the alternative section? It seems like it's perfectly fine for someone to post "why android sucks" topics but you'll never see a iphone sucks thread in the iphone forum. And if the thread was originally created in the wrong forum why move junk threads like this to alternative forum when 9 times out of 10 you know it's just going to invite trolls to pile on.
This place is becoming an eyesore as we never see any informative android/other os threads anymore. All we see are stupid comparisons like GS3 vs iPhone 5/why I hate this etc. Like as if the GS3 is the frigging poster child of android. Just felt like ranting but the least the mods could do is move redundant threads like this to the dustbin forum just like they would do to threads that are border line trolling ios/iphone.
Carry on.
This place is becoming an eyesore as we never see any informative android/other os threads anymore. All we see are stupid comparisons like GS3 vs iPhone 5/why I hate this etc. Like as if the GS3 is the frigging poster child of android. Just felt like ranting but the least the mods could do is move redundant threads like this to the dustbin forum just like they would do to threads that are border line trolling ios/iphone.
Carry on.
Lot's of valid points made. For me it's the opposite. I've had every single iPhone and always from launch day, including the 5, but being so locked down has turned me off. I sold my 4S in May and got the One X and have been using it since. I'm now running CyanogenMod 10 (Jellybean) on it and have gotten so used to the convenience features on it that I can't deal with iOS anymore. I'm upset that iOS development has basically stagnated the last 2 versions. I don't care about Siri, the only thing I got use from it was dictating text messages.
Both OSes have their flaws and there is no one size fits all for anybody, and the lack of updates to some devices because of manufacturers ineptitude is definitely a huge problem. For someone like me who likes to tinker by rooting and flashing custom ROMs this is not a problem however (but again it's not for everyone). I bought a 5 on launch day and sold it 48 hours later because using it compared to Jellybean made me feel like I went back in time 4 years due to inconveniences in iOS. The new expanded notification system in Jellybean is nothing short of fantastic.
I can do almost anything I want just from my lockscreen. Being able to change my system settings from the notification bar, having custom lock screen shortcuts to different apps, having nearly unlimited shortcuts on the dock (and 5 or more at time including the app drawer), customizable widgets on my homescreen, free tethering, notification LED, and more are features that I have grown so used to they are second nature and I can no longer live without.
Now don't get me wrong, I still love the iPhone, the ecosystem, and my 3rd gen iPad (jailbroken on iOS 5 still) but the locked down nature of iOS is really keeping it from becoming what it has the potential to be. I simply can't wrap my mind around why they haven't opened up notification center to developers, so much wasted potential that it's almost insulting. When the iPhone 5 finally gets jailbroken I will give it another shot because I love the hardware (even though the screen is a step down from the HOX) and I'll at least be able to add some of the features I've become used to on this phone.
I want to be able to use MY phone how I see fit and unfortunately the iPhone, as of right now, does not let me.
Both OSes have their flaws and there is no one size fits all for anybody, and the lack of updates to some devices because of manufacturers ineptitude is definitely a huge problem. For someone like me who likes to tinker by rooting and flashing custom ROMs this is not a problem however (but again it's not for everyone). I bought a 5 on launch day and sold it 48 hours later because using it compared to Jellybean made me feel like I went back in time 4 years due to inconveniences in iOS. The new expanded notification system in Jellybean is nothing short of fantastic.
I can do almost anything I want just from my lockscreen. Being able to change my system settings from the notification bar, having custom lock screen shortcuts to different apps, having nearly unlimited shortcuts on the dock (and 5 or more at time including the app drawer), customizable widgets on my homescreen, free tethering, notification LED, and more are features that I have grown so used to they are second nature and I can no longer live without.
Now don't get me wrong, I still love the iPhone, the ecosystem, and my 3rd gen iPad (jailbroken on iOS 5 still) but the locked down nature of iOS is really keeping it from becoming what it has the potential to be. I simply can't wrap my mind around why they haven't opened up notification center to developers, so much wasted potential that it's almost insulting. When the iPhone 5 finally gets jailbroken I will give it another shot because I love the hardware (even though the screen is a step down from the HOX) and I'll at least be able to add some of the features I've become used to on this phone.
I want to be able to use MY phone how I see fit and unfortunately the iPhone, as of right now, does not let me.
I'd like to think I have a reasonable understanding of computing. I build my own, work daily with computers and manage Linux, Windows and OSX servers at work.
I do agree that more computer enthusiasts probably choose Android based phones but I can assure you there are as many clueless users on Android as there are on iOS. I see them daily.
So much truth. Especially the bolded parts.
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Bias moderation at its best.
Engage in hyperbole much?
I've been computing since the days of punch cards, have experience in programming in several languages and OS's, and use computers every day in my lab. I still prefer iOS for the moment because to me it seems more elegant (at an engineering level) than Android. I also don't like that Google does not view me as their customer, and that will apply no matter how fancy Android gets. I am not saying Android is bad, it's just not for me. Nor would I belittle another's choice of mobile OS, unlike some apparently....
[off topic] I just want to to know why do we always see junk threads like this in the alternative section? It seems like it's perfectly fine for someone to post "why android sucks" topics but you'll never see a iphone sucks thread in the iphone forum. And if the thread was originally created in the wrong forum why move junk threads like this to alternative forum when 9 times out of 10 you know it's just going to invite trolls to pile on.
This place is becoming an eyesore as we never see any informative android/other os threads anymore. All we see are stupid comparisons like GS3 vs iPhone 5/why I hate this etc. Like as if the GS3 is the frigging poster child of android. Just felt like ranting but the least the mods could do is move redundant threads like this to the dustbin forum just like they would do to threads that are border line trolling ios/iphone.
Carry on.
I feel the pain in this quote - it was exactly what many of us were feeling about Android posts in the iPhone forum. FWIW I do think there is some pro-iPhone trolling here. However, surprisingly on the few times I drop by, I find interesting tidbits here. Thus I think this sub-forum has been a really good idea and it has actually raised the level discussion somewhat.
Having said that, perhaps we need a 'Alternatives to Android and Samsung/Motorola/etc' forum.
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8G is less than 16G.
The Nexus 7 starts with 8G and $50 gets you another 8G. The iPhone and iPad start at 16G and $100 gets you another 16G. Insane prices for flash in either case, but at least they're consistent.
Always is a strong word. I've built my own rigs, I've set up my own networks and home entertainment systems, I've owned an Android phone... And I assure you, I do not prefer it to iOS. Just because I CAN tinker and tweak and customize doesn't mean I WANT to. I need my devices to work and I don't have the time (or permission from my employer, who pays for my service) to root and customize.
I love this argument that only the incompetent and computer-illiterate choose iOS, and Android is the true choice for "smart people". Do you realize how ignorant that sounds? It reminds me of the fools who spout the "only poor people buy Androids" argument for iOS devices.
You can do at least 4 of the things he mentioned with an iPhone 4, either through the app store or jailbreaking and they work just fine. I have tried it. Continue the Apple worship.
One of the things that bothered me about Android is that its made by geeks and very unpolished. They are trying to work on polishing it now but it still has a long way to go. Perfect example: Texting.
How is texting a mess on Android you ask? There have been several phones that when you send text messages to other users, the recipients receive them out of order because time sync is off for some reason or another. Now this could be limited to a specific manufacturer, but it's still bush league.
Android is basically the Wal-Mart of phone OSes. You get what you pay for indeed.
How is texting a mess on Android you ask? There have been several phones that when you send text messages to other users, the recipients receive them out of order because time sync is off for some reason or another. Now this could be limited to a specific manufacturer, but it's still bush league.
Android is basically the Wal-Mart of phone OSes. You get what you pay for indeed.
For all of you saying, "Why don't you just get a Nexus phone" I have to chime in.
Number 1: The point of this post is of fragmentation amongst the multitude of android devices, so saying this is not actually responding to the OP's concerns.
Number 2: I once tried the Galaxy Nexus for 13 days (Verizon's return period) and returned the phone. Why? Because mainly I had no signal almost anywhere. I called VZW support they sent me another phone. Tried that one, no signal. Where I live VZW has VERY strong signal and my family and friends all had a strong signal whereas I literally had none. I called VZW support back and after being "escalated" to several levels of tech support the guy literally told me, "yeah that phone has terrible reception, I'd advise you to return it." I only wanted a Galaxy Nexus because I knew it would get updates first, but obviously cannot keep a phone that cannot make calls.
Of course I can only speak to what happened to me personally as fact, but a quick Google search of "Galaxy Nexus" "Reception Issues" informs me that I am not alone. Since then I went back to iPhone, tried a GSSIII but eventually returned to iPhone again and haven't looked back.
Number 1: The point of this post is of fragmentation amongst the multitude of android devices, so saying this is not actually responding to the OP's concerns.
Number 2: I once tried the Galaxy Nexus for 13 days (Verizon's return period) and returned the phone. Why? Because mainly I had no signal almost anywhere. I called VZW support they sent me another phone. Tried that one, no signal. Where I live VZW has VERY strong signal and my family and friends all had a strong signal whereas I literally had none. I called VZW support back and after being "escalated" to several levels of tech support the guy literally told me, "yeah that phone has terrible reception, I'd advise you to return it." I only wanted a Galaxy Nexus because I knew it would get updates first, but obviously cannot keep a phone that cannot make calls.
Of course I can only speak to what happened to me personally as fact, but a quick Google search of "Galaxy Nexus" "Reception Issues" informs me that I am not alone. Since then I went back to iPhone, tried a GSSIII but eventually returned to iPhone again and haven't looked back.
In the 2.5 years i have used an Android, i have only had two of them. The Galaxy S Vibrant and now the GS3. I dont know what you mean by "recipients recieve them out of order". You mean when you send a group text? Because other than that(and ive had no issues with that either) all the texts i have sent have went right to my intended target and ive never had a complaint from anybody not getting something.
I use Handcent and you can configure sent confirmation and a lot of other things with it.
If you send a long message that is broken up in parts, you will receive them out of order many times. Like part 3 first, then 2 minutes later part 1, and 5 minutes later part 2. Or if you send a couple texts real fast like answering multiple questions, the recipient will get them late and out of order.
Here is an Android forum with people complaining about it as well:
http://androidforums.com/epic-4g-support-troubleshooting/266956-text-messages-out-order.html
I see it often because my wife has Android. Can't wait to move her to iPhone.
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I have never experienced this, but even so, you link a 20 month old thread from Jan 2011 with only 3 replies?
Oh, if you use Handcent , you can disable the broken up texts and it will send it as a whole. Thats why i didnt get it, i dont use the native text app.
Yea, I did a quick search and just grab a random link to add validity to my post. You can do a search as well and you will see there are others. VegasTouch is correct that third party apps resolve the issue as others have reported it as well.