I agree. Though sometimes it's a persons circumstances that change that then highlights weaknesses. What was ok when bought may now be not so ok.
Good point!
I agree. Though sometimes it's a persons circumstances that change that then highlights weaknesses. What was ok when bought may now be not so ok.
It seems like everything is based on a release date (firmware update for MMS). I know we all should have this capability now, but the wait was very painful.
Please go give me an example what is a struggle for you.... my iPhone doesn't struggle with anything.
My 3G struggles with multi-tasking.![]()
Why is everything with the iPhone such an uphill battle?? I love the phone and the functionality. However, everything seems to hinge on the next release date. My previous phone (Samsung BlackJack 2) was Windows based and a piece of cake to update or modify.
I swear as God is my witness people will bitch about the iPhone non stop. It gets updated and people bitch about something that was left out that is available on other phones.
I have some sympathy with the OP here, yes, we should all read the specs etc. before we buy any device, but it is so easy to get carried away by the hype. Having used the iphone for well over a year now and having gone through all the problems with 3.1, I find myself sometimes yearning for the days of WM.
Really? You seriously think this way? I used Windows Mobile 6.1 for over a year. I love it, it's better than RIM and Palm combined, in my opinion. But it doesn't even come close to touching the iPhone.
You had problems with 3.1 for how long? Two weeks? A month? The update was just released (3.1.2) and reports are out saying it has fixed nearly all, if not all of the problems.
As cool as WM 6.1 is, it is entirely unstable. Slows down and locks up for no reason. Soft resets were a daily ritual. Hell, when you ran non-native apps on the phone, it bogged it down to the point where you were forced to reset it. Closing out programs from Task Manager only seemed to help for so long.
So, I'm not trying to beat up on WM 6.1 or anything. I actually like the OS. I'm just struggling to see how somebody in their right mind could by "yearning for the days of WM" after the hiccup that was Apple OS 3.1.
/rant
Everything is done on purpose. They left all the features out of gen 1 so that when gen 2 comes out, they are like OMG, WE FINALLY HAVE 3G AND BLUETOOTH AND GPS...and then new people buy it and the people with gen 1 buy it. Now with gen 3, they add even newer features and a better camera, OMG WE HAVE A BETTER CAMERA, VOICE CONTROL, AND SO MUCH OTHER THINGS. Then the same people from gen 2 move to gen 3 and they attract new people. It's an advertising gimick to get people to renew thier stuff. All of this could have been done within the first 2 generations...Apple's not foolin me or alot of other people.
Maybe that's true for dumbphones, but...
Other smartphones certainly do get updated. They just start with more and don't need updates to get camera, MMS, c&p, multiple sends and deletes, and other common functionality.
RIM puts out updates fairly often for their Blackberries.
Some WM 2003 smartphones got updated to WM5, which was a major change. And now many WM5 phones have gone to 6.1, and those to 6.5. Some of the newest ones will be able to go to WM7, another major change.
Android has been getting nice updates as well, as I'm sure you know.
Nokia has an application and OS update site, too.
Really? You seriously think this way? I used Windows Mobile 6.1 for over a year. I love it, it's better than RIM and Palm combined, in my opinion. But it doesn't even come close to touching the iPhone.
You had problems with 3.1 for how long? Two weeks? A month? The update was just released (3.1.2) and reports are out saying it has fixed nearly all, if not all of the problems.
As cool as WM 6.1 is, it is entirely unstable. Slows down and locks up for no reason. Soft resets were a daily ritual. Hell, when you ran non-native apps on the phone, it bogged it down to the point where you were forced to reset it. Closing out programs from Task Manager only seemed to help for so long.
So, I'm not trying to beat up on WM 6.1 or anything. I actually like the OS. I'm just struggling to see how somebody in their right mind could by "yearning for the days of WM" after the hiccup that was Apple OS 3.1.
/rant
One thing I forgot to mention, in my view by far the biggest contribution the iphone has made is to force the other players to raise their game, there are some really good devices coming now that I don't think would have existd if it had not been for the iphone - the HTC HD2 for example looks like it will be an awesome device.
Apple are not trying to "fool" you - they are selling iPhone, and they do things the way they do, for a reason. Think of this; imagine bluetooth file transfer had been available from day one, and NOONE had used it (improbable)... so all the whiners would say "iPhone has useless features, like the bluetooth... etc" - they would get slated for packing in a boatload of apps that were either redundant, or badly thought out & rushed efforts. At least with Apple, they take their time to do it PROPERLY (*cough* Nokia *COUGH*) and supply the features that their users ask, by LISTENING to their users.
Nokia phones are a pathetic joke - spray-painted plasticky, clunky, overflowing with useless, disorganised, badly categorised "features" that are difficult to find, and when, eventually, you DO find them, they are either total rubbish, OR are total rubbish AND intuitive AND take ages to load AND crash!.
Android?... another App store clone... with the usual utopian "Open source" nonsense behind it.
Vendors should just abandon Symbian & Windows Mobile altogether - I mean WHEN will they learn?!. They're trying to emulate iPhone with terrible clone apps, but they STILL don't "get it" - OSX and Apple's philosophy as a whole, is the reason for success, not just a pretty front end - the BACK END is most important. "A wise man builds his house upon a rock" <--- the Bible says, and this carries through here - pretty UI on SH*TTY OS'... which leads me to...
It STILL uses Windows mobile - when will you people learn?...
I wouldn't know where to begin. So I will just say this is a mad, raving ..... post. Apple has done allot right with the iPhone and App store, but it is not the be all and end all. You chose your name correctly "Glossywhite"
If you think so, then I'm okay with that. What has my name, to do with anything?. I think you're attempting to subversively flame me, just to let you know, I have noticed, but you have, and will, fail at gleaning any negative responses from me - I hope you have a nice Sunday.
my iPhone doesn't struggle with anything.
Unless it's an iPhone 3G because then it struggles with simple animations that it used to have no problem with in the 2.x firmwares.
Just saying...
Thank you. I do not want to flame you. You glossed over some things concerning WinMob, opensource etc. However it is not worth picking apart.
The only glossing over, is Windows Mobile trying to put lipstick on a pig - IE, they put a "pretty" (?!) UI on the old & crappy Windows Mobile OS. Fact.
That may be, however it does not stop the app from opening, which for me is the point of activating an app. I could care less is the animation is not fluid, I want the app to open, period.
That's not what I said. I said that it struggles to open the apps smoothly now when the same hardware didn't have a problem with it on 2.x
I understand that the app still opens, period (as if I didn't know sentences ended with periods or something).
I know what you said Spaz, I never attributed apps opening as statement you said. I think the intent of the original OP is about user functionality, which "animations" is not a part of.
The word "pretty", & "old and ugly: are all subjective, different to each user so that part is not a fact. If a person who had a dumb phone moved to windows mobile, for them it would be a new interface.
I never had problems finding apps for windows mobile, in fact I have 20gig on 4 DVDs of Windows mobile apps. Somethings are easier to do on windows mobile. That being said, I still like my iPhone, and I am looking forward to next years model. If there was a windows mobile with the same form factor as the iphone, I would give it strong consideration. I did not have a bad experience with my WinMo phone.
Edit: make that 5 dvds