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iPhone 14 Pro Max Why is the iPhone still seen as the holy grail of smartphones?
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Yeah, your FIFY applies to me as well.
The only difference is that I'm not anti-early adopter so much as I'm waiting for prices to fall. It takes several years for Macs to fall in to my $200-300 price range.
I don't exactly see how that's propaganda, it's standard industry practice. It's not about disk space either.
No decent dev should ship/keep features that they no longer have the necessary resources to properly test and maintain (because the user base for that hardware is too small now).
The alternative is the inevitable angry users that come at you with something not working right on their 15 year old machine after the recent update.
When your stuff is old enough, it gets deprecated. Simple as that.
On the subject of chrome browsers, has anyone figured out a solution to them mysteriously nuking extensions? (This seems to happen randomly, but also when you move a boot device to a different machine.)
Nobody is as scummy at it as Apple (aside from maybe HP, but they don't make an operating system). For example, 32bit apps are still supported in Windows 11, which obviously hasn't been beset by whining devs complaining about old software comparability.
And people are getting sick and tired of "industry practice" (which largely consists of "screw the customer as hard as our lawyers say we can get away with").
I reject the premise of your smuggled assertion that devs who assist in pecuniary artificial-obsolesce schemes are "decent".
So? Leave those kexts in anyway. --If your argument is the user base for a feature is too small now, then you have nothing to worry about.
Yes, let's anger our customers. What a brilliant marketing strategy. Why, it's almost as if giving the customer what they want were no longer a concern for an intelligence-entity skinsuit with a vested interest in purging "old" machines and operating systems without as much built-in civilian tracking software as the hidden boss is mandating.
Not sure that bringing up Windows 11 is the best example of old device support, seeing that its minimum target hardware only dates back to like 7 years ago 😄
Yeah, quality assurance in s/w development is a thing, no matter how hard you refuse to believe it.
Anger the customer if you don't support their ancient hardware. Anger the customer if you do and something goes wrong that you no longer have the resources to fix.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
But I think there's no point wasting any more time trying to explain it to you..
Everyone in this thread is now dumber as a result of having read this absolute drivel of a sentence.
Please don't do this to us and yourself.
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I use Vivaldi on iOS. When I was on Android a couple years back I was using Opera. If I was on Android now, I'd be using…Vivaldi.
I use Vivaldi on my Macs. My history with browsers is all over the place, but the one consistent thing is that whatever I use on my Macs or PCs, gets used on my iDevices.
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As for my Macs…no Safari. Unless I am absolutely forced to use it for some reason or another. I hate Safari with the passion of a white hot sun.
I use Vivaldi too on Mac but not iOS 15 because it crashes and loses my tab.Why do you hate Safari though?
Skin may not be accurate because some changes are not superficial. Certain browsers e.g. SnowHaze, Orion, Firefox, DuckDuckGo and Brave have added or modified features like QR scan, open new tab in background/foreground, blocking ads and trackers, blocking JS per tab, blocking canvas access, auto download video to playlist, auto clear cookies, adding Chrome/Firefox extension etc.
Certain browsers e.g. Chrome have also removed features like blocking 3rd party cookies which is on by default by Safari.
Safari may not have all these features or handle them differently (e.g. global setting for JS instead of per tab) but WebKit can.
Because on every platform I've used it on, it has a tendency to take it's sweet time in loading webpages. Sometimes it will not even load a page completely and at other times it will indeed completely load the page and then indicate that it's still loading (when it shouldn't be). It's entirely random as to which it will do, so I never know.
It takes a while to open. It then takes a while to load whatever home page I have set for it and sometimes it refuses to load valid webpages or just half-loads them and then stops.
On iOS I can never seem to have it just give me a blank tab with an address bar. It always has to show some sort of website links, many of which I never use. Typically, when I go to use a browser on iOS it's some sort of quick thing where I need Google to pop something up for me via typing something in the addressbar. I don't wish to be presented with website links I have no intention of using.
And last but not least, Safari is the absolute worst browser for customizing anything that I've ever encountered. With Mozilla/Chrome based browsers I have the freedom to change how my browser looks and feels. Safari, while it allows certain addons, never changes. And I hate how it's laid out.
With Vivaldi (and Opera) I can have my addressbar, tabs, bookmarks bar and so on at the bottom of the screen. I was able to do that with extensions in Mozilla based browsers. There is ZERO way to do any of that in Safari. You can't modify how tabs look or how they function either. Safari is basically a browser for those uninterested in customizing their browsers. And that's NOT me!
I sit in front of a browser for around 16+ hours a day (my Macs) and I want to be in a browser I have customized for myself. Not what Apple forces on me with Safari.
And unlike iOS which has changed over time as far as Apple slowly allowing customization, you don't get that with Safari. Apple (to me) won't ever change that and I resent it.
They’re still all forced to use WebKit at their core, though. Some devs are just lazy and just blame WebKit for their crappy browser experience, such as Firefox. They blame WebKit for not having things like extensions when the Orion browser can install extensions from both the Chrome Web Store and the Firefox Store. Granted, it’s a bit buggy, but Orion is an extraordinarily tiny company compared to Mozilla and others, so other companies have no excuse.
My safari also has some trouble with constant reloading but I think that’s because I block cookies definitely and usually that website is bloated.
Now you can customize safari start page! You need 3rd party extension from the App Store which may or not be free.
Vivaldi is very customizable I agree but unfortunately I stopped using it for now on iOS 15 due to instability.
Thanks for that. Yeah, I have years invested in other browsers to the exclusion of Safari. So when Apple started allowing you to change your default browser on iOS I simply just selected the browser I was using as the default. Before, I would just copy the link from Safari, and then paste it into the browser I actually wanted to use.
I don't have to do that anymore, so I just don't bother with Safari unless it's one of those deals where a website will not function if I am not using Safari or some other approved browser.
You are overhyping the Pixel and underselling all that the iPhone/Apple ecosystem offers.
Pixel has a pretty mediocre chip.
Customer service is lacking for repair work versus the in-store Apple experience.
Safari for iOS has a dedicated bookmarks button. Can't say the same for Chrome on Android.
No Qi2 charging.
iPhone offers seamless transitioning between both a Mac and iPad. iMessage is a killer advantage over anything Android.
Pixels are great but niche devices. The better comparison is Samsung vs Apple.
Your comment seems a bit disingenuous. As someone that claims to have used an iPhone for years, I'm a little confused by your claim that only Android blocks YouTube ads or ads in general. There are numerous ad-blocking extensions and browsers for iPhone that effectively block YouTube ads and most other ads. Personally, I can't even remember the last time I saw an ad while browsing or watching YouTube on my iPhone.
Additionally, I've never had any issues with swiping in apps to navigate. On iOS, you can swipe both left and right to go back and forth through navigation, not just left.
Regarding the notification system, I find it to be quite functional on iOS. Your opinion that Android's UI is superior is entire subjective.
The Pixel is a good phone, I've owned them before, but the Pixel is hardly better in every area. The iPhone is still astronomically better at recording video than the Pixel, and recording video is something I do often.
The iPhone isn't lagging behind the Pixel. If you own other Apple products, the ecosystem and seamless integration between devices are unmatched. For example, I can easily send files between my Mac and iPhone, and while you might have downplayed AirDrop, it’s absolutely essential for my workflow. I can copy and paste across devices and even answer a call on my Apple Watch and transfer it to my Mac without dropping the call.
One of the key reasons the iPhone dominates the market is that Android products are often fragmented with each new update, while iPhone offers a consistent experience even after 5-6 years. Although you may miss out on some new features over time, you can be confident that your apps and everything else will continue to function smoothly.
Additionally, iPhone apps tend to be of higher quality because developers earn significantly more on the platform, as iPhone users typically spend more than Android users. This financial incentive often leads to apps, even from major companies, being released on iPhone before they become available on Android.
It's "minimum" targets are laughably easy to get around. For example, you can install it into Parallels for Mac, where all hardware requirements are waived, officially!
Sayeth the Snark, right before continuing to waste more time (because he can't help himself)....
...with insults and logical-fallacies.
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In Turkey, iPhone is definitely seen as the holy grail. The government collects much more in taxes than the profits Apple makes from that device. The $799 iPhone 15 is the cheapest around $1600 here. Therefore, the worsening economy in the last 10 years makes the iPhone a more difficult device to obtain. The fact that it never causes a loss in the second-hand market actually makes it a valuable thing.
Some people say that iOS is important, not the device, but I think hardware is also very important. After all, processes like AI and quality use require good hardware.
Of course, there is also a mass of people who hate Apple. You know the reason it.
Some people say that iOS is important, not the device, but I think hardware is also very important. After all, processes like AI and quality use require good hardware.
Of course, there is also a mass of people who hate Apple. You know the reason it.
Quite simple really
iMessage
services
ecosytem
social media apps
app quality in general is more polished
smooth UI
animations and speed generally better than what’s else there
iOS is an OS many just prefer. A lot of also love how comfortable it is to use for family sharing as well
iMessage
services
ecosytem
social media apps
app quality in general is more polished
smooth UI
animations and speed generally better than what’s else there
iOS is an OS many just prefer. A lot of also love how comfortable it is to use for family sharing as well
The iPhone and Apple products in general are just more polished!
Don’t think they paid, yet. Tax avoidance is a strategy used by all. After all why pay more taxes than you have to?
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iPhone certainly has superior hardware to pixel. They aren’t lagging behind google at all really
Every phone manufacturer has something unique to draw you in. I love the iPhone OS but I also like Google magic eraser
Between the OS, iMessage, the entire ecosystem I just can’t ever see me going back to android. I do think the Galaxy series are great phones and my brother has the new pixel it’s great as well…just not for me
Between the OS, iMessage, the entire ecosystem I just can’t ever see me going back to android. I do think the Galaxy series are great phones and my brother has the new pixel it’s great as well…just not for me
The ‘Magic Eraser’ functionality is coming to iOS 18 in the Photos app, FYI.