Well then we only need one of them then don't we! And I would vote for the one that offers additional functionality... Proactive.
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Why Is There Two Search Areas?
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Well then we only need one of them then don't we! And I would vote for the one that offers additional functionality... Proactive.
So basically there isn't any actual issue with any of it. At least we cleared that up.
People have different opinions so don't tell people that dislike two search areas there is no issue... You are perfectly entitled to your opinion however and a simple fix to satisfy all would be the previously suggested option to toggle the pull down search off! It's not hard, it would take Apple less than five minutes and keep everyone happy
In fact, if Apple included more simple options to enable/disable certain features and behaviours there would be no where near as many threads like this!
The simple thing is to leave it as is and let people use whichever they want whenever they want. That's simple and doesn't create problems.People have different opinions so don't tell people that dislike two search areas there is no issue... You are perfectly entitled to your opinion however and a simple fix to satisfy all would be the previously suggested option to toggle the pull down search off! It's not hard, it would take Apple less than five minutes and keep everyone happy
And I clearly wasn't saying anything at all about people not being able to have opinions or anything of the sort. I was pointing out that there isn't any actual issue there. There's certainly the opinion of some that something should be this way or that way (as there often is with many things), but that doesn't mean there's any actual issue with the way that it is already.
Then stop trying to lay down the law and demand it should be left how it is, that is one sided! Be more open minded... Allow people the choice. Anyway enough said. It's starting to get tiresome debating this with you. No offence
The choice is to let people search where they want, not to take away an existing option. That's taking choices away and basically the opposite of allowing people the choice. But sure, seems like going in circles doesn't end up going anywhere except back to the same things that have already been covered.Then stop trying to lay down the law and demand it should be left how it is, that is one sided! Be more open minded... Allow people the choice. Anyway enough said. It's starting to get tiresome debating this with you. No offence
More code means more potential bugs, especially for such a huge operating system (iOS does requires you GB of spaces to install, right?).People have different opinions so don't tell people that dislike two search areas there is no issue... You are perfectly entitled to your opinion however and a simple fix to satisfy all would be the previously suggested option to toggle the pull down search off! It's not hard, it would take Apple less than five minutes and keep everyone happy
In fact, if Apple included more simple options to enable/disable certain features and behaviours there would be no where near as many threads like this!
And if apple opens option adding trend, there would be no end of it, then iOS would become more and more complex, and become more like a fine tuned android, not iOS, and apple design DNA.
I do feel confused about two individual searching areas. I also hope apple could explain why they need two places with identical functions, except proactive search.
You do remember iOS 7 has an almost useless missing tab on NC, making many of us feeling confused. Then, in iOS 8, Apple removes that tab. Therefore I bet apple may change this interesting design to a simpler one, in the upcoming updates or even the next version of iOS.
I understand where you're coming from... Would you agree then that both areas should include the proactive functionality (essentially making both areas identical) and then letting people choose the method in which they access said area, be it swiping right or pulling down!? As then there could be an option(s) in settings to disable one or the other or keep both, purely to satisfy everyone
Sounds like we went from why is there search duplicated in the new proactive screen and how it's strange to have that same feature there and in its usual pull down location, to why don't we duplicate everything in both areas. Not a very consistent approach to it all it would seem.I understand where you're coming from... Would you agree then that both areas should include the proactive functionality (essentially making both areas identical) and then letting people choose the method in which they access said area, be it swiping right or pulling down!? As then there could be an option(s) in settings to disable one or the other or keep both, purely to satisfy everyone
Because I'm changing my approach to try and meet you in the middle. It's what happens in a debate, give and take from both sides! Clearly you don't understand that or have any consideration to meet people in the middle so I'm done with this now. I really must get on with my day. Thanks for your input.
Here's my $.02: Pull-down Search is familiar and quick (since keyboard comes up by default).
Proactive is richer, more complex and can be used for Search if what you're looking for in a certain situation does now show up automatically.
Still confused why people have to argue about everything on these forums.
Proactive is richer, more complex and can be used for Search if what you're looking for in a certain situation does now show up automatically.
Still confused why people have to argue about everything on these forums.
I hope you'll be able to turn off the proactive screen. Before iOS 7, it bugged me when it brought up search if you swiped right one too many times. I was glad when they moved it. And looking at the description of the proactive screen, I don't think I would use it. But, no big deal.
Just others simply want their voice to be heard. You could not ignore it because it is still necessary. I bet no one want to be restricted to speak certain sentences every day, just like what North Korea does.Here's my $.02: Pull-down Search is familiar and quick (since keyboard comes up by default).
Proactive is richer, more complex and can be used for Search if what you're looking for in a certain situation does now show up automatically.
Still confused why people have to argue about everything on these forums.
And, I also feel confused about two search areas, although I understand what you're saying.
Agreed. The Proactive screen and search screens should all be combined into the pull down search. I don't know why Apple removed Spotlight search and then added it back again. So dumb. I even forget it's there.
The pull down method is still there. They created a new proactive page, and just as one small additional item made search available on it as well (without the need to do a pull down method on that particular screen). So the same convenience is there, and just one additional screen has been added (which people don't have to use), so that for those who might get to that screen they have a search option already there if they might want, or that small search section can simply be ignored and the rest of the page can be used for the other features it offers.
I think you should regard the proactive search as another springboard page.
Ideally they should have excluded the search bar at the top of that page and enable users to swipe down to bring up the search page.
However that approach is not feasible because the proactive search is a list. Users will have a horrible time navigating the list if swiping down will bring up the search page.
So the solution, is to just include it at the top of the proactive page.
Ideally they should have excluded the search bar at the top of that page and enable users to swipe down to bring up the search page.
However that approach is not feasible because the proactive search is a list. Users will have a horrible time navigating the list if swiping down will bring up the search page.
So the solution, is to just include it at the top of the proactive page.
Because Proactive can search within apps, something that won't be seen until apps are allowed to update for iOS 9.
Spotlight Search can't do this.
At least, that makes the most sense. We won't know until iOS 9 comes out if i'm right.
Either way, I still don't see why this is such a big issue? They're both there, and it's not hurting you, nothing is being lost, and personally I've been using both. I swipe left when I want to see the suggestions (and I sometimes search from there) but if I'm quickly looking for a contact or an app I pull down, since the keyboard launches with it. There's no loss or gain from having both, so I don't get the concern.
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No, both are the exact same Search. If I pull down and search for tacos, then tap cancel and swipe right, it still shows the same search for tacos.
If only the proactive screen can search within apps then Apple would have made it into the most confusing thing it can be. Both search fields will search for the exact same thing. The proactive screen is the only one that has suggested contacts and apps etc. That's the only difference.
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We can't really validate or invalidate the assumption until iOS 9 releases in the fall (unless they've documented it somewhere).
It's just a guess anyways.
We can't really validate or invalidate the assumption until iOS 9 releases in the fall (unless they've documented it somewhere).
It's just a guess anyways.