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BobHail

macrumors 6502a
May 15, 2009
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Btw, all that said, I´m still an Apple fanboy. :)

I´m just looking this product realistically.

And I hate to say it, but MacBook Air is even much more usefull product.
 

spinnerlys

Guest
Sep 7, 2008
14,328
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forlod bygningen
THIS IPAD IS A BIG FAIL!!!!!!!!!

(not LOL speak at least)

For YOU (and some others) it is a FAIL (a stupid internet concoction), but not for many others, who don't see the need for a full blown Mac OS X version on this device.

Apple Inc. is not about specialised computers anymore as it seems, but the most common denominator, which for many people is to consume lots and lots of media. This device delivers on that front.
 

prostuff1

macrumors 65816
Jul 29, 2005
1,482
18
Don't step into the kawoosh...
I think the one thing that might get students to buys this is if the book publishers jump on board and start putting out eBook version of school texts. For the price of the cheapest unit it could make a great book replacement device. I know I spent darn near $500 a couple quarters on text books and I know if I combine a couple quarters I spent more than $500. If the price of an eBook is low enough and the device does a good enough job, I could see this replacing text books.
 

robj

macrumors regular
Dec 23, 2009
230
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Madrid, Spain
Flash will always be needed. HTML5 doesn't replace it. Flash is a staple development tool for the web. Browsing with with lack of support is pathetic.

I mean, HTML5 should replace Flash. The error is to use Flash to lay up a web interface. You should use HTML+CSS+JS instead.

I have to thank Flash for bringing us things like youtube, but I'm totally against of only using Flash in the websites. Anything that could be done with Flash should be done with HTML5+CSS+JS. Those are standards, and you don't depend on a propietary plugin.

With HTML5 the only thing that you'll need is a capable browser, and nothing else. Moreover, this browser can use more efficiently the resources of you machine than a plugin can do. :)
 

Billy Boo Bob

macrumors 6502
Jun 6, 2005
493
0
Dark Side Of The Moon
THIS IPAD IS A BIG FAIL!!!!!!!!!I mean what use does this have? Nothing! It´s useless, if you already have an iPhone and a Mac at home. You can´t carry this around in your pocket like the iPhone, so only place to use it pretty much is at home and home you probably have already a Mac with OS X.

But it's a pain in the ass to be dragging my iMac 24 to the crapper twice a day. :eek:
 

JRoDDz

macrumors 68000
Jul 2, 2009
1,960
215
NYC
The iPad is an I.D.D. (iTunes delivery device) made for the express purpose of Apple making more money off the iTunes store.
 

sparkie7

macrumors 68020
Original poster
Oct 17, 2008
2,430
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Probably because it was a lot cheaper and easier to just stretch the iPhone OS/interface to fill a tablet than to redesign OSX to work well on the smaller device/use multitouch. I don't think this is the best product Apple could have made, but maybe it was the best they could do by January 2010.

You could be right


I wanted a Macpad not an iPad

So did a lot of people. That was the expectation for me too.


The iPad is an I.D.D. (iTunes delivery device) made for the express purpose of Apple making more money off the iTunes store.

One reason - the App Store.

You guys got it in one
 

MacModMachine

macrumors 68020
Apr 3, 2009
2,476
393
Canada
osx would have to be redesigned to run with a touch screen,

buttons are too small , everything would have to be enlarged.


osx would run like trash on it, be hard to use.


instant on os is better , will fetch a better battery life.


there are many reasons why it is not wise to use a full os on a tablet.


microsoft did it without success with tablet os, im saying this with experience.

customers hate it, data input is impossible, small popup keyboard thats impossible to type on...or how about hitting the microscopic x to close the window...if they screen calibration is just a bit off it will never happen.


ill enjoy the crap out of the ipad......
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
73,682
43,740
osx would have to be redesigned to run with a touch screen,

meet the modbook

This company seemed to be able to do this w/o redesigning OSX. I would think apple could produce a more elegant version w/o any major changes to OSX. Besides they've been working on the ipad long enough that they could have snuck in enhancements to osx in preparation of a tablet computer.
 

sparkie7

macrumors 68020
Original poster
Oct 17, 2008
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I believe its TOTALLY possible. Apple just decided to keep the products line distinct and separate to avoid cannibalization. But it will come.
 

zaphon

macrumors 6502
Oct 9, 2003
270
130
I'm severely disappointed as well. What I was hoping for was an actual Apple supported ModBook (http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=modbook but with an Apple Warranty) and what we got is pretty much a 10" iPod Touch/iPhone hybrid (it doesn't do voice calls but it has 3g). Heck I would probably be happy with built in 3g in my MacBook Pro more than this thing (as having the stupid USB dongle stick out the side is ANNOYING, I have almost broken it off several times).

*shrugs*, I'll probably end up buying one anyway, just to toy around with. Who knows, I'm an addict I guess. :(
 

MacModMachine

macrumors 68020
Apr 3, 2009
2,476
393
Canada
meet the modbook

This company seemed to be able to do this w/o redesigning OSX. I would think apple could produce a more elegant version w/o any major changes to OSX. Besides they've been working on the ipad long enough that they could have snuck in enhancements to osx in preparation of a tablet computer.

i am very familiar with the modbook.

because everyone has a modbook ?


its not popular for a REASON.
 

PhoneI

macrumors 68000
Mar 7, 2008
1,629
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THIS IPAD IS A BIG FAIL!!!!!!!!!
.

Can we official get over this lame obsession with the word "Fail". Maybe it can go the way as another one of my favorites...."powned".

As for a big failure, Apple will probably sell millions of these things.
 

REM314

macrumors 6502
Jun 1, 2009
265
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Canada
If Apple had designed a stand alone OS Xish running Tablet computer a couple things would have happened.

Battery life would have significantly decreased
The device would have run slower than it does with the tweeked iPhone OS
They wouldn't be able to market it at $499 and would probably market it closer to their laptop prices.

Those things are not what Apple set out to create.
 

zaphon

macrumors 6502
Oct 9, 2003
270
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If Apple had designed a stand alone OS Xish running Tablet computer a couple things would have happened.

Battery life would have significantly decreased
The device would have run slower than it does with the tweeked iPhone OS
They wouldn't be able to market it at $499 and would probably market it closer to their laptop prices.

Those things are not what Apple set out to create.

But those are the things that we desire, not a bigger iPhone. This thing is SOOO far from what I wanted (or honestly have a use for, I have an iPhone, a Kindle, and a MacBook Pro with a 3g card, what am I gaining???)..
 

applemike

macrumors 6502
Aug 6, 2008
480
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meet the modbook

This company seemed to be able to do this w/o redesigning OSX. I would think apple could produce a more elegant version w/o any major changes to OSX. Besides they've been working on the ipad long enough that they could have snuck in enhancements to osx in preparation of a tablet computer.

Honestly, if the modbook had a lower price tag i would have one by now, ive been looking at purchasing one for about 3 years, but due to being a student in part time employment, i simply cant afford it.

:apple:mike
 

admanimal

macrumors 68040
Apr 22, 2005
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Why is it so hard for people to understand that iPhone OS IS Mac OS X refactored to run on mobile touch screen devices?
 

zaphon

macrumors 6502
Oct 9, 2003
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Why is it so hard for people to understand that iPhone OS IS Mac OS X refactored to run on mobile touch screen devices?

I think it depends on what you define as Mac OS X? Yes I'm sure that the kernel underneath the GUI is indeed based on darwin, but I believe what most people consider Mac OS X is the entire package, not just the kernel with a different GUI on top of it. Plus I'm sure that "Mac OS X" applications won't run on the iPhone or the iPad for that matter.

Plus I'm pretty sure "refactoring" is not the word you we're looking for there, as that would imply that the code changed without changing the external behavior, and the external behavior was clearly modified.
 

admanimal

macrumors 68040
Apr 22, 2005
3,531
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really....because my iphone apps wont run on my macbook pro....

wonder why that is....

Technically the reason is that iPhone apps are compiled for ARM processors, while Macs use x86 family Intel processors. If that wasn't the case there would be no reason that they couldn't run, although the user experience would suck.
 

zaphon

macrumors 6502
Oct 9, 2003
270
130
Technically the reason is that iPhone apps are compiled for ARM processors, while Macs use x86 family Intel processors. If that wasn't the case there would be no reason that they couldn't run, although the user experience would suck.

You also forgot that all the Graphics, Audio, and Input API's are completely different. One couldn't simply re-compile for the x86 processor, they would have to re-write a good bit of code.
 
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