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I get why they haven't done this on iPad but I feel like they should make a solution for it, because it does seem more like a hindrance than anything else. Also, on the same note, they should let you place widgets on the macOS desktop as well, or bring back Dashboard. And there's no argument for "the grids don't match" there.
 
Why should a 5.4" iPhone need to have the same layout as a 12.9" iPad Pro? My iPad is so big it can fit widgets on the left sidebar.

Besides, the space between icons is totally different on the iPad compared to the iPhone. Widgets would look very weird.

I very much like the current implementation by Apple.

personally id think widgets would work better on a bigger screen, ive no intention of putting them on the home screen of my phone but I probably would on my iPad.
 
It does kind of feel like the iPad is an "afterthought" here. The annoying thing is last year apple made out like they were really going to push the iPad even to the point of giving it its own OS name.

But this year its just gone back to "what the iPhone has but on a bigger screen".

Really disappointing tbh.
 
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It does kind of feel like the iPad is an "afterthought" here. The annoying thing is last year apple made out like they were really going to push the iPad even to the point of giving it its own OS name.

But this year its just gone back to "what the iPhone has but on a bigger screen".

Really disappointing tbh.
Hang on, I thought the complaint here was that the iPad DOESN'T have what the iPhone has?
 
It does kind of feel like the iPad is an "afterthought" here. The annoying thing is last year apple made out like they were really going to push the iPad even to the point of giving it its own OS name.

But this year its just gone back to "what the iPhone has but on a bigger screen".

Really disappointing tbh.
We get iPad exclusives as well
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Widgets, Spotlight etc all are implemented differently, so I think the naming is good.
 
Meanwhile, the very first thing i did after upgrading was disabling all the widgets.
 
Are you going to give this guy the same BS lecture you gave me?


Theres some interesting ideas in the concept, but bringing in all of those in the new OS would be a big undertaking, code-wise, I would assume. It’d also be a huge change from one version of iPadOS to the next, and I think Apple want to introduce big changes gradually in order to not alienate a part of the user-base (a good portion of iPad users don’t frequent tech forums and don’t even understand the concept of OS. i.e. my mom has a hard time getting adjusted when an icon changes or is moved on her iPad)

As for widgets on the home screens of the iPad, I think it has mostly to do, like others have said, with the varying layouts of the iPad. It means that for every possible size of widget (small, medium, large), even more sizes would exist to accommodate the different orientations and the different spacing possible between apps. Each one of those might have different layouts to maximize the space/minimize blank space, and that leads to a lot of designing, coding, testing, etc. I bet they just calculated it wasn’t feasible for this release. They alternatively could’ve decided to set the grid layout in stone in terms of sizing and spacing, but I doubt that would’ve been a welcomed move.

I’d also assume it’ll come to a future OS release, unless they decide to evolve the iPad to be more Mac-like and this paradigm won’t fit in there, or it will, but implemented differently.

TL;DR I think it’s just a question of ressources allotment and we’ll either see it in a future release, or the iPad will evolve and shift in a way where this implementation wouldn’t make sense down the line.
 
On the “today view” of the iPad Home Screen (on the left hand side), it seems unnecessary to show the time and date above the widgets (as the time / date is already shown in the status bar).

Having the option to remove the time / date above the widgets would allow for more widgets to be displayed on the left hand side, and I feel it looks cleaner, especially if Apple aren’t going to allow us to place widgets anywhere on the iPad home screen.

What do others think? See screenshots for example.

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Personally, I like the time and date there. I understand that it's redundant but I like the look of it being there.
 
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Whatever dude. You're the type of person who has no clue why anyone ever jailbroke an iPhone. Most of those jailbreak features over the last 10 years, by the way, are now iOS features!

It's not only this, but also for iPadOS to keep some semblance of not being a watered down OS (which is unsuccessful IMO). Giving the iPhone more function than the iPad makes very little sense in this context and makes iPadOS less capable than a smartphone OS. I can only assume Apple just didn't have the resources and wanted to concentrate on the iPhone first and hopefully this is coming. With that said personally I feel the new widgets in iOS14 are a big step backwards anyway, although I'm hoping they mature and 3rd parties make them better. But IMO other than the ability to place them on home screens so far every single 1st party widget is inferior in function to the iOS13 version.
 
I would have liked them on the homescreens as well.

I guess since you can make them always there in landscape apple didn’t bother.

But I would like an option to keep the widget panel open in portrait as well.
 
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Don't get it, either. The square ones wouldn't cause any problem when rotating. For the 2x4 one they could have figured something out. Even if it's removing 2x4 widgets on iPad.
 
You're right. I'm the only person saying this. Some people just think everything Apple does is perfect the way it is I guess.

I don't think it's perfect by any means, but I'm also quite sure that if they don't do something, there's probably a good reason for it. I work closely with developers on technical projects at work every day, and a change that seems like something simple to the end user can be incredibly complicated to actually do, or do well. The folks who work at Apple aren't a bunch of idiots, and they aren't disconnected from what users want. But they're also not going to do something just because people want it, if they can't implement it in a way that they feel is in line with the rest of the OS quality wise.
 
Have you guys never jailbroken an iOS device and had it do hugely complicated things Apple couldn't overcome in the exact same iOS? Apparently not. It is not controversial that Apple is very very slow in implementation of features that are completely possible. This should not be news to anyone here, but I suppose it is.

LOL...Ive been jailbreaking since it was a forty step process on the original 2G phones where the risk of actually bricking your phone was real and there was no DFU mode to help you recover. What I remember from the more advanced features like a WebOS-style card-based app switcher was that I had to help the developer fix the memory leak his software created.
 
The iPad has split-screen multitasking, the iPhone lets you place widgets anywhere. I know which appears more capable to me.

What does the split screen multi tasking have to do with anything? The widgets on the ipad are now less functional than on the iphone, regardless of split screen.
 
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What does the split screen multi tasking have to do with anything? The widgets on the ipad are now less functional than on the iphone, regardless of split screen.
Because you said that giving less restricted widgets to the phone means that the iPad is less capable than the phone. And that’s simply not true unless widgets are the only thing that matte4 to you.
 
Because you said that giving less restricted widgets to the phone means that the iPad is less capable than the phone. And that’s simply not true unless widgets are the only thing that matte4 to you.

Yes the iPad is less capable now than the iPhone in terms of the widgets, not as a whole. I never said the iPad was less capable as a whole.
 
Say's you. You have no idea the reasoning, you just feel it's not legitimate.

For all we know there could be a hugely complicated issue on iPadOS 14 that prevented Ape from proceeding with this.
Well look at that, widgets on the home screen for iPadOS in the next OS. You said there was some hugely complicated issue preventing it for 14. I guess you'll say Apple figured it out. Apple lazily withholding features as always.
 
Well look at that, widgets on the home screen for iPadOS in the next OS. You said there was some hugely complicated issue preventing it for 14. I guess you'll say Apple figured it out. Apple lazily withholding features as always.
They’ve had a YEAR to work on it for Pete’s sake.

Nothing has changed! Whatever the issue was they’ve been able to address it - A YEAR LATER!
 
Well look at that, widgets on the home screen for iPadOS in the next OS. You said there was some hugely complicated issue preventing it for 14. I guess you'll say Apple figured it out. Apple lazily withholding features as always.
BTW I never said there WAS a “hugely complicated reason”. My EXACT phrase was “For all we know there could be a hugely complicated reason”.

OMG - have you been waiting near as dammit a year waiting on this?
 
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BTW I never said there WAS a “hugely complicated reason”. My EXACT phrase was “For all we know there could be a hugely complicated reason”.

OMG - have you been waiting near as dammit a year waiting on this?
Yes, a great clarification. You sure responded fast!
 
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