Phones Why Samsung's marketing fooled almost everyone

[bmt134]

The OP sounds like he's scared. LOL

 

[jrswizzle]

lol... Okay man. You're just biased. It's okay to be biased. Just don't be surprised when you get called on it.

How are they clustered? Do they all pop up on the screen and explode at you whenever you unlock it? lol

Features are just that, features. If you don't like them don't use them. My friend's Lexus parallel parks itself. I would never use it and I see it shorting out at some point and not working properly. Does that make Lexus a bad car maker? The point of adding features is so that whenever someone does need them, they're there. If you had to download an app for everything you want to do, you start to clog up your OS. By having the features built in, people can choose whether or not to use them.

I never said I wasn't biased. Obviously anything based on my opinion is biased...I'm not making this decision for anyone else...just me.

There are 5 key things I'm looking for in a smartphone:

(1) great customer service
(2) premium feeling build - nice design
(3) high quality LCD display
(4) timely OS updates
(5) simple to use

Apple offers all 5, Google gets me 4 of those (damn customer service is terrible), HTC hits 3 maybe 4 (dunno about their CS), Samsung hits on maybe 1.....

All of this is my opinion....FOR ME. All those features are useless junk IMO and don't do anything for me to overlook the other issues I have.

 

[Essenar]

I never said I wasn't biased. Obviously anything based on my opinion is biased...I'm not making this decision for anyone else...just me.

There are 5 key things I'm looking for in a smartphone:

(1) great customer service
(2) premium feeling build - nice design
(3) high quality LCD display
(4) timely OS updates
(5) simple to use

Apple offers all 5, Google gets me 4 of those (damn customer service is terrible), HTC hits 3 maybe 4 (dunno about their CS), Samsung hits on maybe 1.....

All of this is my opinion....FOR ME. All those features are useless junk IMO and don't do anything for me to overlook the other issues I have.

I agree about customer service. It's a huge advantage to be able to take your phone into a physical store and be helped. With every Android device, you're at the mercy of the retailer you bought it from or dealing with shipping.

 

[cynics]

I agree about customer service. It's a huge advantage to be able to take your phone into a physical store and be helped. With every Android device, you're at the mercy of the retailer you bought it from or dealing with shipping.

I've had better luck going to the retailer (corporate carrier store) then a Apple store when our company bought 12 iPhone 4S's.

This also depends on how close the nearest Apple store is to you. Some people live hundreds of miles away or don't have any at all in their country. I'm about 40 miles away from my local Apple store and I need to drive by 4-5 Verizon retailers to get there.

 

[SprSynJn]

This is all true, thing is though, the galaxy S III has a bigger screen and totally one handed friendly so no they aren't keeping the iphone small for that reason.

You must have one gigantic hand then. I barely can reach the top of my iPhone 5's screen without moving it. No way could I get anything done with the SIII's screen on the train, for example.

 

[thehustleman]

You must have one gigantic hand then. I barely can reach the top of my iPhone 5's screen without moving it. No way could I get anything done with the SIII's screen on the train, for example.

Nah just average sized hands

 

[SprSynJn]

Nah just average sized hands

Doubtful buddy. You may think they're average, but they most likely aren't. It's well known that the SIII is not one handed friendly. Great for two yes, but not for one.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Doubtful buddy. You may think they're average, but they most likely aren't. It's well known that the SIII is not one handed friendly. Great for two yes, but not for one.

For me using the S3 ...................... It's a slight struggle using my right hand for top to bottom access, but using my left hand is no struggle at all. It's like I'm left handed when it comes to phones. Weird.

 

[thehustleman]

Doubtful buddy. You may think they're average, but they most likely aren't. It's well known that the SIII is not one handed friendly. Great for two yes, but not for one.

Well known by who? Small handed people?

All my coworkers except one has a galaxy s III and is very one handed friendly.

One of them isn't but 150lbs

 

[Stuntman06]

Doubtful buddy. You may think they're average, but they most likely aren't. It's well known that the SIII is not one handed friendly. Great for two yes, but not for one.

It took me a little while to get used to using the SGS3 one handed. For the most part, I don't have any problems. I have to reach if I'm just using my right hand and thumb to reach the top left of the screen. It is rare that I need to do that. On my home screen, I just make sure that my most often used screen objects are in the part of the screen that is the most comfortable to reach.

 

[cynics]

Doubtful buddy. You may think they're average, but they most likely aren't. It's well known that the SIII is not one handed friendly. Great for two yes, but not for one.

Unlike iOS, Android is a little more friendly to use one handed regardless of device. When you put key features at the bottom where your hands are it makes it easy.

For example in iOS apps the back button is typically at the top left. A key feature is the farthest away from your fingers reach. On a cased iPhone 5 I can't reach it without adjusting my hand or using two. On android the back button is always at the bottom left, no matter how big the screen is you can reach it.

Another example is the home screen. In iOS any and every app/folder starts at the upper left. In android you can put them anywhere that's convenient to reach.

So while touching every spot on a larger screen device may be difficult or even impossible it doesn't matter if you only need to touch the bottom couple inches 90% of the time.

 

[onthecouchagain]

Unlike iOS, Android is a little more friendly to use one handed regardless of device. When you put key features at the bottom where your hands are it makes it easy.

For example in iOS apps the back button is typically at the top left. A key feature is the farthest away from your fingers reach. On a cased iPhone 5 I can't reach it without adjusting my hand or using two. On android the back button is always at the bottom left, no matter how big the screen is you can reach it.

Another example is the home screen. In iOS any and every app/folder starts at the upper left. In android you can put them anywhere that's convenient to reach.

So while touching every spot on a larger screen device may be difficult or even impossible it doesn't matter if you only need to touch the bottom couple inches 90% of the time.

So very very true. I've noticed I've been stretching and reaching far more on my iPhone 5 than I've ever had with my android devices even though they were larger. A lot of the navigation is indeed concentrated on the top in iOS.

Even in apps like flipboard because they follow apples protocol and because there's no dedicated back button by default you have to reach up to go "back" very commonly.

 

[SeanR1]

Unlike iOS, Android is a little more friendly to use one handed regardless of device. When you put key features at the bottom where your hands are it makes it easy.

For example in iOS apps the back button is typically at the top left. A key feature is the farthest away from your fingers reach. On a cased iPhone 5 I can't reach it without adjusting my hand or using two. On android the back button is always at the bottom left, no matter how big the screen is you can reach it.

Another example is the home screen. In iOS any and every app/folder starts at the upper left. In android you can put them anywhere that's convenient to reach.

So while touching every spot on a larger screen device may be difficult or even impossible it doesn't matter if you only need to touch the bottom couple inches 90% of the time.

Exactly! It's easy to tell when people really haven't tried Android when they make the one handed comments. The little "back" button alone makes Android better and easier to use ( for me) than ios, never mind all the other benefits.

 

[TheHateMachine]

Doubtful buddy. You may think they're average, but they most likely aren't. It's well known that the SIII is not one handed friendly. Great for two yes, but not for one.

I can use my Note 2 fine with one hand and I do not have huge hulk hands. The issue is overblown.

 

[daveathall]

It mystifies me when people say that one handed use cant be accomplished on an S3 or Nexus 4.

Here is where the keyboard appears, notice that it isn't at the top of the screen out of reach.

 

[sentinelsx]

Jobs told some lies himself. "we will never make a smaller tablet"

"3.5" us the perfect size for a phone screen "

Honestly the biggest truth he said was 10" is the perfect size for a tablet.

That's because jobs was just another human, susceptible to all the faults that can occur in anyone you meet. He wasn't getting mystical revelations. Plenty of other people have said common sense stuff in the past which makes people think they are somehow above the human sphere.

I hope the clergy isn't angry over this.

 

[thehustleman]

Exactly! It's easy to tell when people really haven't tried Android when they make the one handed comments. The little "back" button alone makes Android better and easier to use ( for me) than ios, never mind all the other benefits.

It's definitely easier than ios, sit an iphone next to a galaxy s III then turn on the hot spot. Which is easier? Please be honest.

Ry closing all apps on both platforms, which is easier?

The answer is still android.

 

[sentinelsx]

Doubtful buddy. You may think they're average, but they most likely aren't. It's well known that the SIII is not one handed friendly. Great for two yes, but not for one.

Warning: RDF hazard.

 

[McCool71]

"The Next Big Thing is Already Here"
Do you think a line like that and a commercial mocking iPhone buyers waiting in line, REALLY makes iPhone users abandon their comfortable phone for a Galaxy S3 and at this stage a Galaxy S4?

Who cares about iPhone users? Certainly not Samsung. The number of iPhone users are small part of the total market and the ads are not targeted at them at all.

The ads Samsung has been running are geared towards those that think a lot of iPhone users (and Apple/Mac fans) are people with an unhealthy obsession with a tech company. You'd be amazed at how many there are of us out there

Personally I have been using Macs on a daily basis at work since the late 90s. I have never had any Apple products myself though. Mainly because I have met so many snotty Mac users through the years that I don't want other people to associate me with that attitude.

The prime example from one of the Samsung ads being the 'I'm creative...' - 'dude, you're a barista!' conversation where the dude in the line obviously thinks he is something very special just because he uses a Mac. If I had a buck for every Mac user I have met through the years that has the same attitude I would be a very wealthy man by now.

 

[daneoni]

So let me ask you, do you consider Samsung number 1? If you do, then I understand your point.

It doesn't matter whether i 'consider' them number 1. The numbers show Sammie is the premier OEM for Android. Galaxy is now synonymous with Android. Very few recognise the Nexus brand...usually only us geeks.

"2012 will be the death of Apple"
"2013 will be a very challenging year for Apple"

These types of things are repeated as nauseum, and they're still here and they still have the most popular smartphone.

Lets just wait and see before making wild claims shall we?

+1

Considering even the competition uses Apple products and iPhone satisfaction is still through the roof, me thinks the doomsday sayers are falling for the marketing hype and over-exaggerating.

But carry on. Its fun to watch.

 

[ijohn.8.80]

Unlike iOS, Android is a little more friendly to use one handed regardless of device. When you put key features at the bottom where your hands are it makes it easy.

For example in iOS apps the back button is typically at the top left.

It mystifies me when people say that one handed use cant be accomplished on an S3 or Nexus 4.

Here is where the keyboard appears, notice that it isn't at the top of the screen out of reach.

Is it just me? Am I hallucinating? Is that a back button on the top left of the Android screenshot?

There is no way in the world I could reach that one handed, especially on a 5" screen.

 

[onthecouchagain]

Is it just me? Am I hallucinating? Is that a back button on the top left of the Android screenshot?

There is no way in the world I could reach that one handed, especially on a 5" screen.

It is. What's your point?

 

[ijohn.8.80]

It is. What's your point?

Just that illogical design runs on both formats of OS.

 

[onthecouchagain]

Just that illogical design runs on both formats of OS.

Have you ever used an android phone before?

Heh I'm going to let someone else tackle this.

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iOS' focus on top-of-the-screen navigation is especially cumbersome when using the ipad.

 

[ijohn.8.80]

Have you ever used an android phone before?

I've only had the opportunity to use an Android tablet, not a phone. It wasn't a very pleasant experience for me, I bought an iPad instead.