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MacMan2013

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Do you take any medication? Prescription or OTC whenever you get sick or have a headache?

You're dealing with metric in day to day life.

Unless you want to go back to the "it's about this much" sizing of tablespoons, teaspoons and fluid ounces. Probably not a good idea if your continued existence depends on taking a precisely measured medication every day.
I really don't think in so many miligrams or whathaveyou. One pill, two pills, three pills. I'll leave the rest to the drug company.
 

eyoungren

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I really don't think in so many miligrams or whathaveyou. One pill, two pills, three pills. I'll leave the rest to the drug company.
I get it - I made the same argument earlier. But, whether we think in those terms or not and at least in the case of drugs, we're metric in our daily lives.
 
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monstermash

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Back in the 70's there was push to go metric in the USA. It went over with a tremendous thud. It is what WE are used and will continue to use.
The US has some roads labeled in metric.

I've driven them :)

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MacMan2013

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"Currently only three countries in the world have not adopted the metric system as the standard: The United States, Myanmar, and Liberia."

Not entirely accurate. The United Kingdom has certainly not done so in respect of road distances.
 

cyb3rdud3

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"Currently only three countries in the world have not adopted the metric system as the standard: The United States, Myanmar, and Liberia."

Not entirely accurate. The United Kingdom has certainly not done so in respect of road distances.
True there is a mix here; heck we even drive on the wrong side of the road :p But it is definitely a metric country, look at the education system, one of the clearest signs.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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Not entirely accurate. The United Kingdom has certainly not done so in respect of road distances.
You can add milk in some cases where it’s often listed in ‘pints’, although I often see it in 1 and 2.5 litre bottles these days. We also order draught beer/lager in pints and I think this is more down to the culture and that link to the old days. I can’t imagine walking into a pub and asking for 0.57 litres of lager. On the continent they seem to just ask for large or small beers in bars which is perhaps less awkward.

In regards to engineering, we use metric entirely. Everything is measured in millimetres in the industry I work in along with kilo newtons (kN) rather than pounds of pressure etc. We sometimes deal with American automotive companies where there is a demand for dual dimensioning but the US markets are becoming less lucrative for us and thankfully these relationships are starting to run their course. You wouldn’t believe how many arguments have been had over rounding 25.4mm and 50.8mm dimensions down as the conversion baffles our American technical friends.
 

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You can add milk in some cases where it’s often listed in ‘pints’, although I often see it in 1 and 2.5 litre bottles these days. We also order draught beer/lager in pints and I think this is more down to the culture and that link to the old days. I can’t imagine walking into a pub and asking for 0.57 litres of lager. On the continent they seem to just ask for large or small beers in bars which is perhaps less awkward.

In regards to engineering, we use metric entirely. Everything is measured in millimetres in the industry I work in along with kilo newtons (kN) rather than pounds of pressure etc. We sometimes deal with American automotive companies where there is a demand for dual dimensioning but the US markets are becoming less lucrative for us and thankfully these relationships are starting to run their course. You wouldn’t believe how many arguments have been had over rounding 25.4mm and 50.8mm dimensions down as the conversion baffles our American technical friends.
I think that some of the older (more traditional) beers - especially when they are served on draught - are served as pints, and half pints.

Bottled beers, however, tend to be sold in bottles that are measured in metric units, such as .33 of a litre, or .5 of a litre.

From what I can see, milk is sold in both pints and litres; the latter, often in cartons, and sometimes, the former, in glass bottles.
 

mtbdudex

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You can add milk in some cases where it’s often listed in ‘pints’, although I often see it in 1 and 2.5 litre bottles these days. We also order draught beer/lager in pints and I think this is more down to the culture and that link to the old days. I can’t imagine walking into a pub and asking for 0.57 litres of lager. On the continent they seem to just ask for large or small beers in bars which is perhaps less awkward.

In regards to engineering, we use metric entirely. Everything is measured in millimetres in the industry I work in along with kilo newtons (kN) rather than pounds of pressure etc. We sometimes deal with American automotive companies where there is a demand for dual dimensioning but the US markets are becoming less lucrative for us and thankfully these relationships are starting to run their course. You wouldn’t believe how many arguments have been had over rounding 25.4mm and 50.8mm dimensions down as the conversion baffles our American technical friends.

I’ve worked in the American auto OE biz since 1979, not retired yet.

1979-1984 was a mechanical draftsman, for GM and Ford BIW welding fixtures.
1985-1989 Direct at GM as Senior Manufacturing Engineer
1989 - current Nissan many positions in vehicle development
(With family / friends in all the other OE’s )

All car parts are 100% metric units , been that way long long time.

Now, unfortunately the tooling industry has dual stds on some legacy stuff, that can cause issues at times.

It’s been a long long long time since I’ve used 0.03937008 ….
 
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Interesting that you should mention the car industry. In NZ there's the occasional call to standardise the size of tow balls, which are currently either 1 7/8" or 50 mm, depending on the manufacturer. I've also seen the "why should we go to that weird European size?" argument when 50 mm is suggested as the standard.
 
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cyb3rdud3

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Interesting that you should mention the car industry. In NZ there's the occasional call to standardise the size of tow balls, which are currently either 1 7/8" or 50 mm, depending on the manufacturer. I've also seen the "why should we go to that weird European size?" argument when 50 mm is suggested as the standard.
Hehehe love it that 'that weird European size" is used for 50mm. To me 1 7/8" is just a weird size.
 

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Hehehe love it that 'that weird European size" is used for 50mm. To me 1 7/8" is just a weird size.
We're ostensibly metric here, but with the odd edge case. A while ago someone was complaining about a companion app for a (Ford?) car, where setting the speed to km/h would also change the tyre pressure setting from PSI to whatever it is in Europe (kPa?). Setting it back to PSI again would change the speed back to MPH. This caused no end of frustration in a country that uses km/h and PSI. Apparently they did fix it with an update though!

Meanwhile you can pry my 16 oz coffee cup from my cold, dead fingers... while on a train with 3'6" tracks.
 

cyb3rdud3

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Hehehe we arrived in Cryprus last night, the aircon units annoy me as three are in Fahrenheit and two in Celsius. I'll move them all back to Celsius again today.
 
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Thomba

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Almost every other country in the world, including China.

There are 7.4 billion people in the world, 3 countries do not use Metric. 2 of them are third world.

http://matadornetwork.com/abroad/metric-map-which-countries-dont-belong-with-the-others/


And amongst those who do not use metric, you don't even use the same measures for gallons and who even knows what else.


metricMap.jpg



Every single one of those countries did not start out with Metric, every single one of them managed to convert.
I really do think that Liberia is also a third world country, so that makes 3 of them.
 

Apple fanboy

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In the opening of New Hope, Vader says he has dissolved the imperial senate and given direct control to the planetary governors. This technically makes planets freer than they were under the republic. As long as they give Vader what he wants, and don't harbor rebels, he doesn't care what they do or what measurement systems they use internally.

The rebels were all against the empire, but they weren't really FOR much of anything as a whole. They certainly weren't about bringing order to the galaxy by imposing a universal law of measurement. So the whole analogy breaks down in that respect.
I’m sorry but Vader said no such thing. Grand Moff Tarkin said it.
 
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Algr

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There are 7.4 billion people in the world, 3 countries do not use Metric. 2 of them are third world.
This just shows that some countries are more important than... OMG this thread goes back to 2016?

I’m sorry but Vader said no such thing. Grand Moff Tarkin said it.
My world!
:: dies. ::
 
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eyoungren

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This just shows that some countries are more important than... OMG this thread goes back to 2016?


My world!
:: dies. ::
As Leia said (directly to Tarkin's face), "Governor Tarkin, I should have expected to find you holding Vader's leash."

Tarkin was a Grand Moff, the Tarkin Doctrine named for him. He was Vader's SUPERIOR.

And quite frankly, Vader didn't care about the Senate. He was focused on something else.
 

timber

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We're ostensibly metric here, but with the odd edge case. A while ago someone was complaining about a companion app for a (Ford?) car, where setting the speed to km/h would also change the tyre pressure setting from PSI to whatever it is in Europe (kPa?). Setting it back to PSI again would change the speed back to MPH. This caused no end of frustration in a country that uses km/h and PSI. Apparently they did fix it with an update though!

Meanwhile you can pry my 16 oz coffee cup from my cold, dead fingers... while on a train with 3'6" tracks.
We usually do tyre pressure in bar (which is exactly 100 kPa=1 bar). It is also a good approximation for the atmospheric pressure.
 
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decafjava

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As Leia said (directly to Tarkin's face), "Governor Tarkin, I should have expected to find you holding Vader's leash."

Tarkin was a Grand Moff, the Tarkin Doctrine named for him. He was Vader's SUPERIOR.

And quite frankly, Vader didn't care about the Senate. He was focused on something else.
Yes, bringing the metric system to the last holdouts.
 
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