Are you educated? Serious question because your statement is a brain fart. MS loses money in the console business but they have other profitable businesses ie license fees in windows to support non-profitable ventures. Actually i don't think their objective is to make xbox profitable in the short or medium term but more branching out from being exclusively software provider.
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Are you educated? Serious question because your statement is a brain fart. MS loses money in the console business but they have other profitable businesses ie license fees in windows to support non-profitable ventures. Actually i don't think their objective is to make xbox profitable in the short or medium term but more branching out from being exclusively software provider.
If security and stability are interrelated, your above post must be wrong as OS X is far far less stable than Windows 7.
I am in fact quite well educated. I was going off what he said, I didn't do the research myself. Also, I believe the Xbox line is already turning a profit (they haven't made back their initial investment yet but they will).
Apologies, but I wouldn't call them sources at all reliable. I don't know which OS is more secure, but there is no way Windows can be as bad as you're saying. Last time I had a virus problem on a Windows PC was in the XP days. Since moving to Windows 7, I have not had a problem.
Other than that flashback trojan, I have never had a problem on OS X either.
Are you a believer in the philosophical position of solipsism?
Because your response suggests that the only thing that you're sure exists in reality is that which is aligned with your internal state of self.
I just ask because you seem to be using your state of affect to make a judgement in the face of an argument that provides supporting evidence.
Other evidence includes the incidence rates of malware targeting each OS.
The market share argument doesn't justify the differing incidence rates.
For example:
iOS = 66% mobile/tablet market share and 6% overall
Android = 21% mobile/tablet market share and 2% overall
http://www.netmarketshare.com/mobile-market-share
http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8&qpcustomd=
Yet, Android has way more malware than iOS.
The less secure OS is the more targeted OS.
Correlation does not equal causation. We have no idea how many malware apps try to get through Apple's approval process and don't.
So, you think more malware developers are wasting there time trying to make malware for iOS instead of Android despite not a single real threat getting past Apple's vetting process?
Also, most Android malware relies on the availability of local privilege escalation exploits that are easily found in Android because of the fragmentation found in Android devices leading to most devices having known and unpatched privilege escalation vulnerabilities.
https://blog.duosecurity.com/2012/0...ay-over-50-of-android-devices-are-vulnerable/
And, Mac OS X market share is 7% while Android market share is only 2% yet Android has a higher incidence rate of malware and infections than Mac OS X. Apple's vetting process isn't a factor in this example.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti..._malware_op_may_have_infected_5_million_users
The less secure OS is the more targeted OS.
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http://www.macworld.com/article/1167677/hacker_exploits_ios_flaw_for_free_in_app_purchases.html
http://www.ipodnn.com/articles/12/09/20/wi.fi.issue.already.solved.on.apples.end/
There's app expliots already in the wild, and because almost all in-use iOS devices use the same OS, we can assume that most iOS devices have an exploit.
I'd therefore assume that it's Apple's vetting process that keep the virus's out. Or the threat of the vetting process.
Why would a malware developer create malware that gives the victim free in app purchases? This isn't a malware related exploit.
How does being able to send a SMS message with a reply to destination different than the sender source facilitate malware in iOS? At worst this could be used in a phishing type scam. This isn't a malware related exploit.
The SMS spoofing issue is patched unlike the known and unpatched local privilege escalation exploits found in over 50% of Android devices that are being used in malware.
BTW, good work avoiding the OS X / Android example.
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What I'm saying, since you can't seem to grasp it, is that the app store validation keeps anything harmful away. For example, there are numerous exploits such as the SMS and in-app purchase examples, let alone the jailbreak exploits, which can be used for a virus to enter the system.
However, that hasn't happened. I don't believe for an instant that you can jailbreak a phone but you can't create a virus for it. Do you? Therefore, I am left to assume that Apple's app store validation process keeps the virus's away.
Android has more malware because there's no gate keeper, as there is for the iPhone. At that point, there could be 100's of bugs in iOS, but as long as none exist for Safari, Apple can keep iOS safe.
The only way you could possibly have a true statement is if you include the app store validation as part of iOS's security.
Like jaded monkey said what keeps iOS safe is apple lockdowm.
Btw the"less secure" OS is not the most target, if more people use "X" os then it will get hit harder because have more user/more people use it.
Most complaints of iOS is the lockdown but i dont think that will go away anytime soon, that "garden" is what keep us safe.
Btw the"less secure" OS is not the most target, if more people use "X" os then it will get hit harder because have more user/more people use it.
Most complaints of iOS is the lockdown but i dont think that will go away anytime soon, that "garden" is what keep us safe.
Too soon to claim most secure
but i will jump to windows phone soon and if microsoft put the same effort they did with xbox and xbox live service big things are coming.How much weed do you smoke? It seems you change your mind more than a laxative filled person would change their underwear. What gives?
People are still arguing that OSX is better than Windows? I use them both regularly, and I can tell you the biggest advantage OSX has is that...
1. It's a little more newbie friendly.
2. It has a slightly better out of the box experience.
3. It's prettier.
Other than that, I honestly can't see any advantages or disadvantages between either platform. I mostly use Windows myself, and the last time I ever had any virus issues was in 2000 when I got bored one night and tried downloading Quake 2 off Limewire. Beyond that? Nothing.
Most problems people have with either OS are usually found by people with nothing better to do nitpicking an issue to death because they need to justify their purchase. Oh, I just spent $200 on the Windows 7 Ultra Awesome Edition upgrade disc, I have to tell everyone how screaming fast it is running on my gaming rig with all the blingy LEDs. I just dropped two grand on a Macbook, I have to go on an internet forum and tell everyone how smart I am because it's the superior choice that just works.
Bahh. Just pick whichever one you like, and shut up about it.
1. It's a little more newbie friendly.
2. It has a slightly better out of the box experience.
3. It's prettier.
Other than that, I honestly can't see any advantages or disadvantages between either platform. I mostly use Windows myself, and the last time I ever had any virus issues was in 2000 when I got bored one night and tried downloading Quake 2 off Limewire. Beyond that? Nothing.
Most problems people have with either OS are usually found by people with nothing better to do nitpicking an issue to death because they need to justify their purchase. Oh, I just spent $200 on the Windows 7 Ultra Awesome Edition upgrade disc, I have to tell everyone how screaming fast it is running on my gaming rig with all the blingy LEDs. I just dropped two grand on a Macbook, I have to go on an internet forum and tell everyone how smart I am because it's the superior choice that just works.
Bahh. Just pick whichever one you like, and shut up about it.
The following example negates your argument.
Mac OS X market share is 7% while Android market share is only 2% yet Android has a higher incidence rate of malware and infections than Mac OS X. Apple's vetting process isn't a factor in this example.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti..._malware_op_may_have_infected_5_million_users
BTW, almost every iOS jailbreak is a bootrom exploit. These exploits can't be leveraged to elevate privileges by malware because require being connected to another computer to facilitate being exploited.
Given that Gatekeeper in Mac OS X is a new feature that users can manually bypass, this isn't a factor in the OS X / Android example. So, Apple's vetting process doesn't have that much impact.
BTW, Safari in iOS does have exploitable vulnerabilities. But, privilege escalation exploits that facilitate malware are incredibly rare. These types of privilege escalation exploits are not nearly as hard to find in Android. This is why hackers only were able to get through Safari on iOS at mobile pwn2own but exploited the Android device all the way to root, which included being able to install malware on the device.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti..._hacked_via_NFC_at_Mobile_Pwn2Own_competition
I recommend it a lot. My W7.5 device is pretty solid. Nokia Drive is excellent. The only real issue I have with it is the app store definitely could use a better selection, especially of web browsers.
That's a healthy number, but how many of those are good apps, or popular ones supported across all platforms? Like how is the Facebook app? Does it have Flipboard? Netflix? Dropbox?
Good is subjective.
That being said, I thought the idea of WP was that you didn't need a Facebook app. Isn't it integrated with the tiles or whatever?
You will not find a problem with not finding major apps. Facebook... Netflix.... Google Play.... Pandora.... etc.
The UI is extremely easy to use and looks good. It had a learning curve of about a day of use.
There's been a few times I haven't charged my battery in 2 days and it didn't die, although it went into battery saver mode at I think 5%.
I was having reception problems with my Samsung with T-Mobile. I thought it was just T-Mobile. My family was actually going to switch because of the bad reception. After I got this new Nokia, no reception issues. None. Nokias are known for the best phone reception in any phone. This is probably going to have us stick with T-Mobile since it's so much cheaper.
Honestly, I used Android for over a year, I used an iPhone for over a year, and now I am using this Windows Phone. Let's just say I am sticking with Windows Phone when I buy a new phone in the spring. Hopefully the 920 is cheaper by then.
There are some negatives, I'm not a salesman, after all.
The major problem I have is finding an alternative web browser. Although Internet Explorer that comes with it is solid and fast, sometimes it has compatibility issues with a few websites. No major ones, but some ones that haven't been updated. All web browsers in Windows Marketplace are just IE-based with different UI and added features.
Second, Nokia's feel cheaper in your hand than the iPhone. I'm not sure about the 920 but the 710 I have feels cheap.
Third, some of the Apps have funky UI from third parties. It's like they did a half ass attempt at trying to emulate Microsoft's new UI theme they've been doing with Xbox, WP7.5, and now W8.
And last, no decent game emulators! No gameboy emulators (the one they have doesn't have sound), no sega emulators, etc. I liked to play around with these on my Android on long car trips when I had nothing better to do.