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Why Window Phone will fail.
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I think he's just easily influenced. His posts swing equally erratically on 3 separate forums though, so at least he's consistent.
Well you must have chameleon eyes cos it looks like you see things going both ways at the same time.
I wasn't talking about Gatekeeper with a capital G, but rather a gate keeper, someone who makes sure nothing bad gets in. In this instance, Apple has acted as a gate keeper for years, it is a factor.
However, you then go on to day that, even if it was a factor, that
Can you provide any proof for this statement? Mainly that Apple's vetting process doesn't look for Virus's or malware?
All someone needs is a single vulnerability - and we aren't even talking about escalating privileges here. An app that has permission to read a users address book could do a ton of damage. Being able to connect to the internet would allow it to help DDoS a website.
All of that stuff can be done with the SDK, without using private API's. And since apps like that don't exist, what's your theory? Keep in mind, the security of the OS itself is irrelevant right now.
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Facebook is fantastic, and Netflix is Netflix. I don't use dropbox, so I can't comment. However, aside from lacking some official apps like Papa John's and Starbucks, there's no problem with apps anymore. There's also no Zynga- That's either a positive or negative, depending on your view.
I'm not referring to iOS. I'm comparing the incidence rates of malware and infections of OS X to Android.
Apple has no control over the third party software that users install in OS X. So, Apple's vetting process is not a factor.
Android has higher incidence rates of malware and infections than OS X despite Android only having 2% of the overall market share while OS X has 7%.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti..._malware_op_may_have_infected_5_million_users
The weaker OS is the more targeted OS.
Nothing profitable in relation to malware can be done with only access to contacts. The value in contacts is it can be used to spread malware but only if malware can be installed. Privilege escalation is required to install malware in iOS.
About the most profitable action that can be done with only access to contacts is spam. The only example of what some may call malware in the iOS app store used contacts to spam links to download the app from the App Store. The app also had an Android variant.
From the following article:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Malware-discovered-in-Apple-App-Store-sends-spam-to-contacts_id31972
This isn't as malicious as some of the threats targeting Android, such as banking malware.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/...id-malware-stealing-banking-credentials/10804
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Yes, but IE9 is actually one of the quickest and most reliable browsers out today. Nothing like it once was.
I was under the impression you were discussing iOS. If you're talking about OS X to Android, I'd agree with you that Android has a bigger problem, but I'd also hazard that Android's 50% marketshare beats out OS X ~6%.
The marketshare for a cellphone is not the same market as a computer.
Likewise, Google has no control over users installing non-Playstore apps.
The user has to intentionally download and install the app that, in this case, came from a phishing email or text sent around in Spain.
To do that, the user must first have manually enabled loading apps from outside the Playstore. At that point, they're in the same situation as a jailbroken iPhone user, or any computer user since the beginning.
That means this user who is savvy enough to enable outside apps, has to also be naive enough in this day and age to believe that an email claiming to have an official bank app is real. And then ignore the fact that this supposed token generator app requests permission to read contacts, send texts and install other software.
It's hard to protect fools who bend over backwards to install obvious malware outside of the official stores.
Facebook app on both platforms suck. They may of improved it but on both platforms still pretty bad.
Never used flip board.
Netflix is pretty much the same on both.
Dropbox is by far better and can do more stuff on Android.
Hmm. I've been reading the replies and looking at some stuff on the internet, and I can say I'm pretty tempted. WP8 looks to take the happy medium between the other two platforms. It's more regulated and standardized than Android, but not quite as locked down and restricted as iOS. It's like you're getting the best of both worlds. Stability and freedom.
...but...
I think I'm gonna hold off a year before deciding to take the plunge. I want to see how Win8, the higher end ultra-tablet-books, and RT take off before jumping head first into a new ecosystem. The most important thing to me when picking a platform is developer support. Though things are considerably better than I thought they were in the WP scene, it still isn't nearly as robust as what you'd get on iOS. I like being able to think of something I need, and being able to grab it after a simple search. It's one of the main reasons why I stuck with Windows over Mac all these years, and why I'm gonna stick with iOS for the short term.
I'll be keeping an eye out on it in the meantime.
A computer is a computer.
There is no logical reason to assume that there is some magical separation between mobile computing devices and laptop/desktops.
All these devices connect to the same Internet. All these devices belong to the same overall market share that is liable to attack.
Mac OS X = 7%
Android = 2%
Android has more malware and higher infection rates.
The less secure platforms of that market share are the more targeted platforms.
So the point you're trying to make is that my comparison is valid?
Here is an interesting quote from the following article:
http://www.csc.ncsu.edu/faculty/jiang/pubs/OAKLAND12.pdf
That's way more malware than targets OS X. And, over a third of it includes privilege escalation.
Also, malware that includes privilege escalation has been found in the official android app repositories.
http://arstechnica.com/information-...roid-market-highlights-googles-vulnerability/
An operating systems liability toward privilege escalation is a major determining factor in the incidence rates of malware. Both Windows and Android show this to be true.
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Let me know when you use an Android OS at work. Note that I'm saying Android, not Linux.
Likewise, let me know when you make a phonecall with your desktop, while you're on the bus.
I think that's my fault... I'll stop. Sorry
I have never read a line so riddled with bulls**t in my life. You just cannot make your mind up. And further more, once your eyes of switched from one company's device to another, you declare all their competitors useless and effectively dead.
Just because you like Apple, it doesn't mean you have to hate everything Microsoft and vice versa. How about you just like what you like, regardless of the company they came from? Or am I trying to reason with some moronic 13 year old here?
Seems like it. I myself heard nothing but praise for windows phone-even if I am very invested in and like ios. I honestly tell people looking to get a smartphone for the first time of course why I like Apple and all the positive points, but also suggest windows on Nokia as a very good alternative.
That is kind of how I am. I have had nothing but praise for wp even though I have no interest in making it my phone OS of choice. I am an android fan.
Now I see plus of iOS but I just plainly do not like it for me.
Unless there's an instagram version for the Windows Phone, that device will always be a failure.