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The problem with Apple is, they were slowing down previous phones that were not old. The 6 & 7 lineups, and the SE were include. Apple admitted to slowing down these models with a software update in the end of 2017. The line up then was the X and 8. You mean a phone that's only one or two years old needs to be throttled cause the battery is going bad already? Does that truly sound right to you? I've had Android phones for several before I seen any signs of battery health issues. I had a Note 4, and it's original battery had issues only after 4 years. And in my experience, once a battery starts to go, throttling doesn't help much. I think the tech world just accepted Apple's BS excuse.
They were slowing them after the battery health reached a certain level. That information was previously hidden from users (battery health). See for example, I got an iPhone 6S after 6 months my battery health reads 84%, my phone starts slowing down. This is exactly what happened. There’s no excuse here. If Apple didn’t release this patch, iPhones would just randomly shutdown. I already explained this so many times in so many ways and tonee, it’s not as hard to understand. If any other company would have done this, I would also agree because I’d rather my phone slow down when the battery health is low and the power draw from the CPU is high, then just shutting down. As I previously explained, my iPhone 5 would randomly shutdown at the gym, on iOS 9, before the battery performance patch. To prevent this Apple release the patch that would slow down the performance to prevent these shutdowns.
They should have explained clearly what they were doing and give us the option to toggle it on/off from the beginning. Even though having the phone shutting down during critical times was not an option for me, imagine the head lines, you know Apple hate gets a lot of clicks. “iPhones randomly shutting down and Apple doesn’t care”, they release the patch, “iPhones throttling performance and Apple doesn’t care”.
You can’t win. The difference between Apple and others on this is that, others tried to get a marketing scheme by hitting on Apple and tweeting they didn’t “throttle their phones”. What happens is that they just shutdown like the iPhones before the patch.
Do you think it’s safe to have a phone CPU consuming too much power while the battery isn’t at its best state and explode?
I’d rather have safety.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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They were slowing them after the battery health reached a certain level. That information was previously hidden from users (battery health). See for example, I got an iPhone 6S after 6 months my battery health reads 84%, my phone starts slowing down. This is exactly what happened. There’s no excuse here. If Apple didn’t release this patch, iPhones would just randomly shutdown. I already explained this so many times in so many ways and tonee, it’s not as hard to understand. If any other company would have done this, I would also agree because I’d rather my phone slow down when the battery health is low and the power draw from the CPU is high, then just shutting down. As I previously explained, my iPhone 5 would randomly shutdown at the gym, on iOS 9, before the battery performance patch. To prevent this Apple release the patch that would slow down the performance to prevent these shutdowns.
They should have explained clearly what they were doing and give us the option to toggle it on/off from the beginning. Even though having the phone shutting down during critical times was not an option for me, imagine the head lines, you know Apple hate gets a lot of clicks. “iPhones randomly shutting down and Apple doesn’t care”, they release the patch, “iPhones throttling performance and Apple doesn’t care”.
You can’t win. The difference between Apple and others on this is that, others tried to get a marketing scheme by hitting on Apple and tweeting they didn’t “throttle their phones”. What happens is that they just shutdown like the iPhones before the patch.
Do you think it’s safe to have a phone CPU consuming too much power while the battery isn’t at its best state and explode?
I’d rather have safety.


The point of my post, is that it makes no sense to throttle a phone with a poor health battery. It's not going to help much. A poor health battery is going to give out quicker and unexpectedly regardless how much you throttle. I'm not going to speculate what Apple's true intentions of slowing down phones were, but in my strong opinion, it wasn't because of battery health.
 

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The point of my post, is that it makes no sense to throttle a phone with a poor health battery. It's not going to help much. A poor health battery is going to give out quicker and unexpectedly regardless how much you throttle. I'm not going to speculate what Apple's true intentions of slowing down phones were, but in my strong opinion, it wasn't because of battery health.
It wasn’t about planned obsolescence BS that is being spread here. My old iPhones still run like new. If anything the newer iPhones are running worse because of buggy iOS 13, don’t tell me they planned obsolescence on their 1 month old phone?
 

jamezr

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“This is when the drama first started. Reports of older iPhones trickled in, citing reliability and usability problems such as sudden shutdowns.”
because they had faulty batteries....cheaper than a recall....
 

jamezr

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Where did you take they had faulty batteries?
did you not read the article i linked? Why do you think they throttled phones in the first place? They didn't just throttle older phones they even came out and said they were going to throttle newer phones.
You really should read up on it....
 
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koigirl

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The throttling covered up the issue with faulty batteries plus encouraged a lot of people to prematurely upgrade to a new phone, a win/win for Apple but a loss for the consumer. I don’t understand making excuses for this, even though I enjoy and use Apple products (but less than I used to).
 
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TopherMan12

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Ultimately Apple made piss-poor decisions in the batterygate issue. Not going to argue that. Does this mean I'm going to buy an Android? Nope. Why would I? Let's not pretend Android manufacturer's haven't had issues in the past. If I wrote off every company that screwed up then I would be stuck with a rotary phone. Bottom line is that I like Apple products and the ecosystem more than Android variants.
 
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Awesomesince86

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Ultimately Apple made piss-poor decisions in the batterygate issue. Not going to argue that. Does this mean I'm going to buy an Android? Nope. Why would I? Let's not pretend Android manufacturer's haven't had issues in the past. If I wrote off every company that screwed up then I would be stuck with a rotary phone. Bottom line is that I like Apple products and the ecosystem more than Android variants.
Nothing wrong with that at all. I bounce back and forth. I appreciate both OSes. It’s annoying when some people are so far in one camp that they refuse to acknowledge or accept what the other does well or what theirs does poorly. I don’t get it.
 

TopherMan12

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Nothing wrong with that at all. I bounce back and forth. I appreciate both OSes. It’s annoying when some people are so far in one camp that they refuse to acknowledge or accept what the other does well or what theirs does poorly. I don’t get it.

I think there is always going to be that fringe element. You see it all over. Same stuff you see in game console wars. I tried Samsung Galaxy for a year and and decided I'm just an Apple guy when it comes to phones. That's the thing. A phone is a personal device so there isn't much point arguing opinions. So not sure what the OP thinks they are accomplishing here.
 
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and have a phone that is slower than the last two iPhone generations. Add to that the bad standby life and the mediocre software that is available on Android. It sounds like a bargain
so true lol

It's a matter of preference though so this is an endless debate. I've been a user of both operating systems and I know which one wins by a landslide for me.
 

BMox81

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Love my XS, loved my 6 Plus, 7 and 8 before that.

But I have to say that I'm quite tempted to give Android (more specifically Google/Pixel) another crack next year when my contract is up.
 

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my iPhone 5 would randomly shutdown at the gym, on iOS 9, before the battery performance patch.

Omg, I had this issue. At the time I was blaming it on using cheap non genuine Lightning cables. Wow, now it makes sense. Before I thought Apple were making excuses about slowing down to prevent shutdowns but thinking back to 2014 that was actually a problem!!
 

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I tried a Samsung Galaxy S1 back in early 2011, and I hated it. Laggy and hard to navigate. Now, I know a lot has changed since those early years. But even still, I do not like any of the skins of Android, and am not a huge fan of stock either. iOS, while being more basic, is IMO a lot easier and quicker to use. I would be willing to try it again, but I'm not willing to pay a lot of money to do so.
 

N0ddie

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My wife and I swap and change from Android (Usually Samsung's flagship at the time) and IOS every couple of years. We've just both opted for Note 10s this time round to replace our iPhone 10s (Before that we had the Samsung S7 Edge).

We found buying the same OS over and over didn't really make it feel as though you were getting a new phone. Swapping for us made us appreciate what both systems do well and not so well
 
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