The cost of the Bill of Materials largely dictates MSRP.
Consumers prefer to pay the least and tend not ask how it was achieved.
That is why people look at the price of specific RAM & SSD chips Apple uses and their retail channel equivalents. I couldn't find them.
You lost me at "dictates".
Component prices are part of the story, sure, but very obviously not all of it. R&D costs are a substantial part of the product cost. When you look at the Apple product line, they're running a master class in how to keep R&D and sustaining costs under control.
As is clear to everyone who looks at it, the difference in prices between different tiers in a product line are not dictated by the cost of the RAM and SSD component prices. The obsession with understanding the part prices is why everyone stays so confused by Apple's pricing model, either thinking it doesn't make sense or that it's all part of an evil plan.
As for Apple chips Apple's challenge is where to put iPhone and Mac chips into when they have excess supply of said chips.
Excess supply? There aren't enough iPhones to put iPhone chips in?!
Like why no M1 Pro in a 2020 Mac mini or no M1 Ultra in a 2022 MBP 16" whose enclosure is based on a 2021 model.
M2 Pro in a 2023 Mac mini appears to be a solely parts supply issue as there is too much demand for the M1 Pro in a MBP 14"/16".
You're seeing supply issues where I see a company learning, first, how their brand new chips perform in the real world, and, second, what the market uptake will be for various configurations.
While no M1 Ultra in a MBP 16" appears to be lack of USB PD charging standard beyond 140W at the time of release and/or a parts supply issue as there is too much demand for it in a Mac Studio.
Have you seen anyone get the Studio Ultra over 140W continuous draw? I don't think it's the PD limit and it's unlikely to be demand from the Studio because the Ultra is just two Max chips co-packaged and not one yield limited part-- I think it's form factor and product line appropriateness. I'd be pretty surprised to see an Ultra turn up in a laptop.
There are MR rumors and threads about a Mac Pro with one M2 Ultra or two M2 Ultra chips. Some think that those will be the SKUs of that 2023 model.
Currently the 2022 Mac Studio M1 Ultra is $4k while the 2019 Mac Pro starting price is $6k. A $2k difference just to have PCIe expansion slots, drive bays and RAM slots.
A Mac Studio with one M1 Max is $2k while a model with M1 Ultra (two M1 Max) is $4k. That's a $2k difference per M1 Max chip increase. This increase also includes more RAM, SSD, better I/O ports and a beefier HSF upgraded from cheaper aluminum to more conductive & heavier copper.
Using known Bill of Materials cost we can make estimates on what the 2023 Mac Pro will cost.
- $6k for Mac Pro with one M2 Ultra chip, 64GB RAM & 1TB SSD
- $10k for Mac Pro with two M2 Ultra chips, 128GB RAM & 2TB SSD
Tea leaves... Fun to try to predict, but Apple clearly doesn't set their prices at the increments you think they do or you wouldn't be working and reworking the math to understand the storage upgrade pricing.
Apple prices to the market. The know what differentiates an up market customer (professional or prosumer) from a budget customer. RAM and flash are two of those things. Apparently wheels are another-- I'd guess that the wheels are how Apple differentiates the high margin creative studio customers with a MP under the desk from the more cost conscious data center and render farm customers.
The more a high margin customer is willing to pay for RAM or wheels, the less Apple needs to charge granny for her Zoom box while maintaining the margins and ASPs. You can save a tear for the professionals because they get to write off the expense.
And they severely limit the variation in the complex parts of the design (processor subsystem, display, housings) to keep the overall R&D costs down and keep the budget products very attractive relative to the competition.