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Will 38mm and 42mm be the same price?
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I can agree on the Sport but on the Edition it will probably be several $100 to $1000. On the SS it will probably be $100.
Just please try and remember everyone.
Other than raw gold value.
All other aspects of the watch, the actual manufacturer costs between the two sizes will be nothing when set against the level of profit on the device as a whole.
By that, I mean. For Apple there may be a $20 manufacturing price difference between the two sizes in the Aluminium and Steel models.
But they could be wanting $150 of sheer profit on them.
So, they could balance it out, make $140 sheer profit on one size and $160 sheer profit on the smaller size, and charge the customer the same at retail for either.
That would be how most other worn products are priced I'd expect.
It would be harder to do this on the gold, for obvious reasons, unless the wall thickness on the larger model was less, but I don't expect that would be the case, so I could understand the gold models being different retail prices.
But as I said, on the other models, the materials cost difference between the two sizes is going to be tiny in real terms, when set against the profit and retail price.
It really depends if this is old Apple or New Wearables Apple.
Old Apple will charge difference prices.
New Apple could balance the costs out and charge the same.
Other than raw gold value.
All other aspects of the watch, the actual manufacturer costs between the two sizes will be nothing when set against the level of profit on the device as a whole.
By that, I mean. For Apple there may be a $20 manufacturing price difference between the two sizes in the Aluminium and Steel models.
But they could be wanting $150 of sheer profit on them.
So, they could balance it out, make $140 sheer profit on one size and $160 sheer profit on the smaller size, and charge the customer the same at retail for either.
That would be how most other worn products are priced I'd expect.
It would be harder to do this on the gold, for obvious reasons, unless the wall thickness on the larger model was less, but I don't expect that would be the case, so I could understand the gold models being different retail prices.
But as I said, on the other models, the materials cost difference between the two sizes is going to be tiny in real terms, when set against the profit and retail price.
It really depends if this is old Apple or New Wearables Apple.
Old Apple will charge difference prices.
New Apple could balance the costs out and charge the same.
I can exclusively reveal that my own personal speculation is that both sizes will indeed be the same price.
Yeah but we talk about some little more expensive think.
And the screen is bigger too, so do not dream about 38mm and 42mm to be at the same prices
I actually don't
Check my prediction in the top. 
This is one of the few products Apple has that I could see them possibly price the same for two different sizes. If not more than $50 difference is just crazy.
While I totally agree that Apple will find any way they can to suck more money in, they announced a starting price of $349. I have believe that price is for the entry level men's watch, which is their standard model. What that means in terms of price differences between the 2 sizes, I don't know. Maybe the large and small sport model is the same price, but they differ in the higher end models where the price of materials is the key price driver.
I just can't ever recall Apple playing pricing mind games in the past, so don't expect that from them now.
I just can't ever recall Apple playing pricing mind games in the past, so don't expect that from them now.
The Sport model is the entry level watch. We just don't know if the 42mm will cost more than the 38mm. The so called "Standard Model" is SS and will certainly be (probably considerably) more expensive.
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It's going to depend how much more the stainless steel version is going to cost. The sport will probably be the entry level at $349 and then theres going to be the cost of the straps/bands individualy, I think prices will be high for the stainless steel and the Gold watch, this is Apple after all.
I think the SS will start around $750 with a Fluoroelastomer strap. With some of the higher end straps like the Link Bracelet you will probably be in at a cool G.
For the Edition it will probably be $3000 to $5000 or maybe more.
Well personally I intend to buy the stainless steel Watch. I prefer the way it looks to the sport version, but I will also need to get the sport band for the gym/exercising and maybe the stainless steel band for general everyday wear, but that will depend on the cost.
You agree with this ?
You are fatter.
You were not born fat.
You got fat as you ate more calories than you burned up each day due to your individual lifestyle.
So, because you are fat, and it is all your doing (unless someone it holding a gun to your head unless you eat that cake)
Your cloths will require more fabric to make them, hence we shall charge you more for this extra fabric.
I'm happy with this, and it's fair.
Why should a thin person who looks after their body have to pay the same price for the garment that uses half the amount of fabric:
Story here:
http://www.bitterwallet.com/plus-size-women-are-discriminated-against-in-clothes-stores/82463
What do you think?
You are fatter.
You were not born fat.
You got fat as you ate more calories than you burned up each day due to your individual lifestyle.
So, because you are fat, and it is all your doing (unless someone it holding a gun to your head unless you eat that cake)
Your cloths will require more fabric to make them, hence we shall charge you more for this extra fabric.
I'm happy with this, and it's fair.
Why should a thin person who looks after their body have to pay the same price for the garment that uses half the amount of fabric:
Story here:
http://www.bitterwallet.com/plus-size-women-are-discriminated-against-in-clothes-stores/82463
What do you think?
I think this sounds really mean and discriminating IMO. And this is clothes, not wearable technology.
I'm 6'3" tall, and have a large frame, which includes large, bony wrists. I feel that refutes this argument.
Well, let me put it this way.
(And I'm only exploring this for the sake of discussion)
You will agree that, unless you have some weird rare body disorder, 99.9% of people are fat because they choose of their own free will to eat more food than their body needs, so their body stores this extra food as fat.
They can see this building up year upon year, and yet carry on, of their own free will eating more, and getting fatter and fatter.
And yet, despite this being totally their own choice and a situation they are totally in charge of.
They expect more material/goods for the same price as someone who's product uses half the material.
However.
You have no control over your bone/skeleton frame.
that's down to your parents.
You can decide to grow tall and wide bones wise, and be 6ft 7" or to stop growing at 4ft 6"
You have no control over that.
And yet, people are saying they think it's perfectly acceptable to charge someone more, who was born with a large skeletal frame, more for the 42mm watch, than the 38mm watch.
So people who have zero control over their skeletal frame size are being punished for something out of their control.
But someone who is fat, which is totally within their control should not expect to get charged for larger items.
Logically that is totally back to front thinking.
What about factors independent of weight or lifestyle. Some people are just generally bigger/smaller than others (height, bone and muscle structure, etc).
Indeed.
So, we are saying, that, you should not be charged more, if the item that fits your body best uses perhaps even twice the amount of material, Leather, Plastic etc etc........
Not your fault. Would be unfair and unjust to charge you more.
Ok, I can totally accept that as a point of view....
So how come people hear are thinking it will be acceptable for Apple to charge more, for a tiny bit more metal and glass if the larger Apple Watch is the one that fits your body the best?
Because we are not talking about clothing.
Apple's investment to making components for the different sized device is a little bit higher than those in the textile industry, which would lower the margin for all devices sold if it is subsided similarly.
Plus, generally in the watch market, it is not unusual to pay more for larger faces, so it isn't like Apple is would be a single man, out.
It just wouldn't be abnormal in a customers mindset.
....and in the electronics industry you almost always pay more for a larger screen with higher resolution and larger battery.
Let's be fair here.
This is supposed to be "New Apple"
Now offering Wearable's and wanting into the fashion industry.
That's hardly the category the iPhone is in.
Neither fashion or wearable.
Please remember, I'm not arguing either case. Just exploring opinions here.
It does seem like at one moment people are saying this is new Apple and they will do things different.
Yet moments later, harking back to old Apple that will do things like they always have done.
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....and in the electronics industry you almost always pay more for a larger screen with higher resolution and larger battery.
Indeed, that's the old model.
Are we not saying this is a new wearable branch out for Apple.
Wearable, High fashion, Upgradable?
Are you going to apply old tech computing rules to this new side of Apple still?
I never seen Apple said that's new Apple.
For me Apple is Apple and they are no changes
Indeed, and you may be right, and many here are going to get a cold hard shock when they see, the Apple watch won't be upgradable at all, and there will be a new model out next year if you wish to buy it, just like iPods, iPhone, iPads etc etc.
So many here are thinking this is going to be a "New Fresh, Wearable division of Apple that will change from it's ways of the past"
As I say, they may be in for a shock, when they find Apple just wants you to sell your old watch and buy the new model each year, like all it's other products
We'll see